Hot Hardware DSO i7 Review

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why are they comparing a veloci micro with a dual 4850 to ds's single 285 system in games at high res?

Though the Digital Storm system can't quite keep pace with the dual Radeon cards in the Velocity Micro system

DS system has a 1 x 285

veloci system has 2 x 4850


of course not idiot, because you are comparing a dual card to a single card performance,

what did they expect, if the idiots had taken out the dual 4850 and stock it in to DS system and then put the single 285 in the veloci mircro system, then the results would have been reversed and it would be the DS system that was better.

I mean these guys must be from under a rock to not know that at 1900 x 1200 dual cards like 4850 and 4870 will always do better then single 285 or 280, the same way that a dual 285 or a dual 275 or dual 260+ will beat a single 4890 or 4870, this is just a stupid comparison.

thats like comparing a dual core to a single core in common tasks. of course the dual core is gonna win everytime, this is just so stupid.

Edited by DST4ME - 07 Apr 2009 at 9:33pm

Originally posted by DST4ME why are they comparing a veloci micro with a dual 4850 to ds's single 285 system in games at high res? Though the Digital Storm system can't quite keep pace with the dual Radeon cards in the Velocity Micro system DS system has a 1 x 285 veloci system has 2 x 4850 of course not idiot, because you are comparing a dual card to a single card performance, what did they expect, if the idiots had taken out the dual 4850 and stock it in to DS system and then put the single 285 in the veloci mircro system, then the results would have been reversed and it would be the DS system that was better. I mean these guys must be from under a rock to not know that at 1900 x 1200 dual cards like 4850 and 4870 will always do better then single 285 or 280, the same way that a dual 285 or a dual 275 or dual 260+ will beat a single 4890 or 4870, this is just a stupid comparison. thats like comparing a dual core to a single core in common tasks. of course the dual core is gonna win everytime, this is just so stupid.

Hey if you want to give credit to a review that compares apples and oranges go ahead, I like reviews with creditability and not idiots.

I'm not interested in being told that a veloci system is better then a DS system because the veloci has a dual card, that is not a review that is misinformation, since its not the system that is better its the dual cards.

sure my motorcycle GSXR with a 1000cc engine is better then your GSXR with a 750cc.

now if you want to call that a review go ahead, if you want to think my bike is better then yours then go ahead, but its really stupid, of course my bike is faster DA, I got the bigger engine.

so if I stick a dual GTX 275 in my old dell does that mean its better then both the DS system and veloci micro?

give me a break

You have to have some credibility and know what you are talking about before I listen to anything you have to say and if you are stupid enough to compare apple and oranges then that tells me you have no common sense thus neither does your review.

and by you I don't mean you KB, I'm referring to the idiots that wrote the review who don't even know that 2 cards are better then one, so its not the veloci micro that is better but the dual cards, which put in any box will do better.

let me put it this way, using the same stupid pattern I can easily say:

Though the Digital Storm system can't quite keep pace with the dual Radeon cards in MY 2 year old Dell system

when in reality its not DS system that can't keep up with anything, its the single card vs the dual card, and of course a single 285 can't keep up with a dual 4850 at high resolutions, so its a matter of single card vs dual card and not a matter of DS system vs veloci system, misleading.

hey everybody that was a great review of a DS system and my old dell system wasn't it?


I guess at the end if I say the DS system was great that makes my statement OK.


Edited by DST4ME - 08 Apr 2009 at 2:35pm

take a look at the config section and tell me if you still think most people know the difference.

I don't consider anyone who disagrees with me as a lesser intellect, to be honest with you, I don't even think I'm that smart, I do pride my self on working with what makes the most sense, most times.

From the config section what I have come to find is that most people don't know much and those kinds of details are foreign to them.

I also think on its face, its just foolish to compare apples with oranges, single card with dual card, and then instead of saying single vs dual card, make it sound like its one system vs the other.

At least like you said, if they had said look at how good the single 285 is doing when compared to the dual 4850, then that would have been better, but to most people that quote translates to DS is not as good as veloci micro, which is completely false, and that is what most people will walk away with.

I understand why you shared it and thank you, I feel like I have come across wrong and that is my own fault, I totally understand and appreciate you posting this review, there is nothing wrong with that, its always good to see DS get a good review, I just wish one place did a proper one, by proper people who in the article didn't make DS look:

like its more expensive then others or their systems are expensive.

like DS system is close enough to an alienware so that DS would get 86% rating and the same people gave alienware 83% rating. I'm sorry its more like DS at 90% - 95% and alienware at 65%.

like their system is lesser then veloci mirco

I'm sure if I look at others I can have a longer list, bottom line is this, is there not one creditable site/company out there that can give DS a fair review which it deserves, and show how its clearly a head and neck above the rest?

Edited by DST4ME - 08 Apr 2009 at 5:21pm

not at all, its a review of a DS system then only in a gaming section on one game they throw in veloci micro and make that false statement.

they only did it with half life cause that is the only game the dual would beat the 285,in other games the 285 would eat the dual 4850.

if the dual 4850 are better in a couple of games but in most games single 285 will do better then DS system was not beaten and that would be another false statement.

Edited by DST4ME - 08 Apr 2009 at 10:53pm

yes they listed the price but both systems are not equal.

these guys are comparing apples and oranges, they are dumber then I thought:



so the veloci mirco is $2,399

and the DS system is 3,265.00

as they said themselves $850 less, but lets take a closer look.

OC:

DS: 3.97GH

veloci: 2.93GHz

mobo:

DS: EVGA x58

veloci: Intel "Smackover" DX58SO, no tri sli here.

GPU:

DS: 1 x 285 GTX

veloci: 2 x 4850

CPU Cooling:

DS: v8

veloci: Intel Certified High Performance Heatsink(no wonder it could only get to 2.93 )

Audio:

DS: Razor Barracuda AC1 PCI Sound Card - 7.1 HD Audio

veloci: On-Board Integrated High Definition 7.1 Channel Sound

HDD:

DS: 1.5TG Seagate 7200.11 7200rpm 32MB Cache SATA 300MB/s w/NCQ

veloci: 750GB Hitachi 7200rpm 32MB Cache SATA 300 w/NCQ

Power Supply:

DS: 1K-Watt Corsair HX1000W

veloci: 850-Watt Velocity Micro Power Supply

Warranty and Support:

DS: 3-year parts and labor

veloci: 1-year parts and labor

So lets recap for $850 more you get a much better, OC speed, mobo, GPU, CPU cooler, sound card (razor at that), double the HDD size, a corsair 1000w (vs veloci's own PSU which keep in mind has only a 1 year warranty), its obvious that DS is the best for value here also.

best part of it is that the veloci system is at $2,399, well I went and tried to duplicate this build here at DS, obviously and thank god that we don't have their case and crappy PSU here so I had to substitute the case for tj09 and PSU with a proper brand name PSU like corsair 750w, we also don't have the 750GB HDD here so I had to pick the 1TB drive, the results are :

the veloci mirco is $2,399

the digital storm is $2,298

thats right you get a better case, better PSU(this psu unlike veloci mirco's, comes with 3 year warranty from DS and 5 year warranty from corsair), a 1TB HDD vs the 750GB of veloci micro and last but not least a 3 year warranty on all parts vs the stupid 1 year warranty of veloci micro.

so in short the veloci micro is a piece of crap and not of any value, you can't put a PSU in a system that has only one year warranty and then use the word value in the same sentence.


Edited by DST4ME - 09 Apr 2009 at 2:25am

Let me tell you that you should not feel like your system is better, you should know for a fact that your system is better, if nothing else at all, the quality of parts you have are much better, you have a better case, better PSU better motherboard, those 3 right there are like a foundation of a great system, just like a foundation of a house, if its no good the house comes crumbling down.

not to mention that you have a 3 year warranty from DS and some of your parts have a longer warranty from their own manufacturers, like if you have a corsair hx PSU, you have a 5 year warranty from corsair on that part. the veloci's own brand is crap and has no such warranty.

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