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    Posted: 11 May 2023 at 3:42pm
I am about to order a new system and would really appreciate the counsel of this august forum.  Here's the configuration: 

Specifications:

Chassis Model: Antec Performance Series P101 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish

Processor: Intel Core i7-13700KF (5.4 GHz Turbo) (24-Thread) (16-Core) 3.4 GHz (Raptor Lake)

Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z790-P D5 (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z790 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI) (DDR5) System Memory: 32GB DDR5 5200MHz Kingston FURY Beast Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Semi-Modular) (80 Plus Gold) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: - No Thanks Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 3: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express) RAID Config: RAID 1: Mirroring: Drive Failure Data Fault Tolerance (Requires 2 Identical HDDs) RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3070 8GB (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Triple Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks

I have two primary questions:

1.  The Antec P101 case may have availability issues.  I selected it for sound reduction. (Case visuals aren't a major concern for me)  Is there an alternative that would do nearly as well?

2.  I've intentionally selected a 1000W power supply to lengthen the life time of the components.  (My previous DS system w a 1000W supply is 7 years old with no maintenance issues.)  Is that still a reasonable strategy?

All comments and recommendations are greatly appreciated, of course.
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You don't say what you are going to do with your build, nor what resolution monitor you want to drive. Without that info, I can only guess you know what you need. For primarily gaming, videos, surfing, and moderate business/homework, the i5 13600kf is a very strong CPU. Much more powerful because of the hybrid design than any i5 before it. The 13700KF is for considerably heavier computing needs.

If you were to get the 13600, an 850W power supply would give you all the extra overhead you want. It will use less power, and run cooler. Can't comment on your storage without knowing what you want to do.

You should consider the Noctua air cooling for long life and virtually no maintenance for the life of your rig. It won't likely fail at all. If it does, you'd just replace a fan. The AOI pump will fail eventually before a Noctua would. If it does, you have to replace the whole thing.

I know nothing about the Antec. It's long been a mantra here that if you supress noise, you may hold in heat. The Velox is known for the best airflow followed closely by the Lumos. The Noctua is very quiet. The GPU fans will crank up sometimes under heavy use, but that's to dissipate heat. If the case is holding heat in, they will crank up more often and longer. You may or may not hear them.

Edited by Cretae - 11 May 2023 at 6:09pm
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Thank you you so much Cretae.  I didn't post any CPU, cooling or application information as I considered those issues settled.  Obviously, they merit much more careful review.  So, here's some further application and use information.

I am replacing a 7 year old DS system with and ASUS mother board, Intel 2170 chipset and an NVIDIA GeForce 1070.  I'm specing the new system storage with 4x my current usage.  It's been excellent.  The new system will be used for general office applications, photo editing, music editing and probably some video editing as well.  It will also be used for some RPG gaming.  (The new Dragon Age if it turns out to be as good as some of its predecessors and possibly some others.)  I would like the system to deliver the same lifetime as its predecessor.  My current display is 1900 x 1200 which is fine but I'm likely to upgrade soon and may go for modestly higher resolution.  I realize this is hardly sufficient information to determine an optimal system.

Nevertheless, with this do you have further observations and recommendations to offer.  I will carefully consider your CPU and cooling recommendations.  Again, thank you so much for your reply!



Originally posted by Cretae

You don't say what you are going to do with your build, nor what resolution monitor you want to drive. Without that info, I can only guess you know what you need. For primarily gaming, videos, surfing, and moderate business/homework, the i5 13600kf is a very strong CPU. Much more powerful because of the hybrid design than any i5 before it. The 13700KF is for considerably heavier computing needs.
If you were to get the 13600, an 850W power supply would give you all the extra overhead you want. It will use less power, and run cooler. Can't comment on your storage without knowing what you want to do.

You should consider the Noctua air cooling for long life and virtually no maintenance for the life of your rig. It won't likely fail at all. If it does, you'd just replace a fan. The AOI pump will fail eventually before a Noctua would. If it does, you have to replace the whole thing.

I know nothing about the Antec. It's long been a mantra here that if you supress noise, you may hold in heat. The Velox is known for the best airflow followed closely by the Lumos. The Noctua is very quiet. The GPU fans will crank up sometimes under heavy use, but that's to dissipate heat. If the case is holding heat in, they will crank up more often and longer. You may or may not hear them.
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So I think you will put some extra power in the 13700KF to good use. The 3070 is a solid choice for 1440p gaming, but RPGs don't really place a lot of demand on a video card, If it suits you, consider some savings on a 3060 Ti which is capable of delivering up to 100 fps on alot of games at 1440p. Then you'd be in better position to upgrade when something like a 4060, or even a 5060 comes around. My thought is the 4070 is way too much, but the 3070 is ageing. 3060Ti is a powerful compromise that makes a future upgrade make more sense. The newer gen of GPUs are not just faster, but they upgrade the feature set as well.

The 1000W PSU is overkill, but not outlandish for the 13700. My other comments remain unchanged. The Noctua is still a solid alternative.    
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