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    Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 12:13am
I'll be using 24' monitor (1900x1200). Kinda new to this. Is liquid cooling the CPU a must when overclocking, or would it be a waste?? Anything I have on here not worth it/stupid. Anything I should add? Any input would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks ahead of time

Chassis: Digital Storm 950Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 1000W PC Power & Cooling (Turbo-Cool Edition) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP (Intel X48 Chipset) (Supports CrossFire)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1800MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 750GB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4870X2 2GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer (CLEARANCE PRICED)
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Additional Case Fans)
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 12:15am
ticket number please
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 12:35am
or how about just telling me the price of that build then?



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  Quote Willis2484 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 7:03pm
Ticket Number: 191635
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 7:17pm
Solid build. Some recommendations though:
 
Get 4GB of 1600Mhz ram, the price difference is just too great, and the performance difference is almost nonexistant. You wont get the CPU overclocked high enough to get a decent ratio with 1800Mhz.
 
You could also save a bit of cash by not having a sound card and just getting one later if you feel like the sound quality isnt good enough. Personally i started without one and was fine with it, the only reason why i got a sound card was i just didnt have much else to add to this thing..and I like adding things lol..personally ive noticed zero difference between this sound card and the onboard i used to have.
 
Other then that, a really solid build. Check to see if that 1000W PS can handle a second 4870X2...I believe it can, but im not sure.
E8500@ 4.03Ghz
XFX 790i Ultra
1000W Corsair HX
2 280 GTX EVGA FTW
4GB OCZ Reaper 1800Mhz
250-80-300GB VR HD
Logitech Z-2300 2.1 Speakers
Asus Xonar 7.1
Hanns-G HG 281D 28" HDMI Monitor
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 7:19pm
cheaper and faster and better

here you go Ticket# 191642 --- Price: $3575 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: Asus P5E3 Premium WiFi-AP (Intel X48 Chipset) (Supports CrossFire)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 4870X2 2GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

are you stuck on that ati card? I can't say the price is worth it
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  Quote Willis2484 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 7:53pm
not stuck on it what would you suggest, also is it hard to maintain a liquid cooler at all?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 8:06pm
what is the resolution you are going to be playing games at?

no liquid cooling is easy as 1 2 3 check levels once a month, if needed add a bit of coolant, with the haf you can just do that from teh outside change liquid once every 5 years

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  Quote Willis2484 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 8:07pm
1900x1200
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 8:12pm
I'm sorry that was the first thing you posted.

then the gpu is great for you
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  Quote Willis2484 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 8:32pm
One more question. What if I decided to add another 4870x2 sometime in the future, is there anything i should change now so I would be able to handle it?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 8:37pm
the only thing would be a psu and looking at the specs the 1000w should handle 2 just fine
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  Quote Willis2484 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:06pm
Is overclocking stable. I keep reading stuff that says it can decrease the lifetime of you system, and it could be unstable.  Thanks for all the help by the way i really appreciate it.. Just a worry wort when it comes to stuff like this. Thanks again!!
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:14pm
W2484, I wish we could find the people that write that stuff and line them up and then whoop their arse.

I'm so tired of people that don't know nothing but start to write articles as if they know what they are talking about.

forget all that stuff, that is the only thing I don't like about the internet, people who don't know nothing can write stuff and you would have a difficult time telling the expert from the wannabe.

we must ask ourselves, why would DS, Dell, HP and many other pc makers offer OC systems with warranty, if oc is bad and they lose money?

answer is simple, shoot the wannabes, cause they are wrong.

because oc is just fine, pc makers do it and offer warranty on it, they do so cause they know that its just fine.

those same wannabes, thought they were OC experts too, tried to oc and burned their cpus, so they decided that since it was a bad thing for them, its a bad thing all the way around.

just once before I die, I wish I could line them up, just once.

lol hope that answers your question, and remember when you see a wannabe expert do this:



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  Quote Willis2484 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:16pm
HAHA very nice. Thanks alot appreciate it.
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anytime boss, anytime
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:42pm
echo?

just to clarify, you don't need to change it every 3 to 4 years, HM is saying if you want to get the newest chip out then you would want to upgrade, not change.

So no, if you do it right it will not change anything or give you anything to worry about.

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By the way what can a the OCZ DDR3 1333MHz clock too usually?
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  Quote Willis2484 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:50pm
overclock to i mean
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:53pm
its your CPU that your are OCing, to get a good speed, what you do is match the FSB speed of your CPU to your ram speed.

we have done that for you already.

you have a q9650 chip, with this chip you can expect OC speeds of 3.8 to 4.0.

Now remember I don't work for DS and DS doesn't guarantee any OC speeds before you buy the system, that number is based on what I have seen around


to figure what your ram can OC to

you take your ram and ÷ by 2

1333 ÷ 2 = 666.5

then you multiply that by the multiplier of your CPU.

q9650 has a multiplier of 9

9 x 666.5 = 5998.5

so theoretically that ram should let your CPU OC to almost 6.0GHz, which I don't think your mombo can even do.


now remember, your OC speeds won't be no where near that.


Edited by DST4ME - 06 Oct 2008 at 9:57pm
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