FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

How to configure a quite computer

Post Date: 2014-01-25

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
drfm View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 29 May 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 52
  Quote drfm Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: How to configure a quite computer
    Posted: 25 Jan 2014 at 4:00pm
Budget:
[$5000 for PC only]

Expectations:
[fast, powerful, latest chips, run high resolution video, play high res music, be silent]

Usage:
[General computing, photo editing, video rendering (Adobe Suites), no gaming]

Special Needs:
[Silent. I don't want to hear it in my music room]

Saved Ticket #: [Please Type Here]

Specifications:
That is my question. How can I choose the case, motherboard, CPU, Chips, Video card, sound card, HDD, cooling options that produce the least of noise.

How silent can a computer running the fastest I7 extreme be?

Some other online custom builders brag about computers running with noise equivalent to 11 or 29 decibels. My current Dual Xeon computer noise is 54 dB (loud). I have to shut it off to listen to music.

Has Digital Storm published the sound level of their finished products?

I already own a powerful Digital Storm I7 Hailstorm and it is about 50 dB using a RadioShack sound meter.

So how should I start.

PS


130dBA Gun shot

120dBA Front row at a rock concert

85dBA Earplugs should be worn

60dBA Normal conversation

40dBA A whisper

30dBA A totally quiet night in the desert

20dBA competitor computer

15dBA The drop of a pin

13dBA A standard light bulb

11dBA competitor computer

10dBA Threshold of hearing


Back to Top
XpubuX View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 726
  Quote XpubuX Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Jan 2014 at 9:53pm
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Obsidian 550D
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 4930K 3.4GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Storage Set 1: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Neutron GTX Series) (SATA 6Gbps)
Storage Set 2: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB (EVGA Superclocked ACX Cooler Edition)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux Level 2: Digital Storm Exotic Custom Cooling System (1x Video Card + CPU + Chipset)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 2 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Portable Gaming: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
Saved Ticket Number: 919960
This would be a pretty quiet beast!!! 4995$


Edited by XpubuX - 25 Jan 2014 at 9:56pm
Back to Top
fstcvc View Drop Down
DS Veteran
DS Veteran

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 06 Jul 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2551
  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 9:21am
Most of the problems with noise are the fans. So you would most likely have to exclude OCing to reduce heat and the amount the fans run. Going with a custom liquid cooling setup on CPU & GPU might help eliminate the sound of small fans buzzing at high speeds. Staying away from mechanical HDDs will also reduce noise (seems every dB is important to you).

You stated that your current setup runs at 50dB - is that at idle or at full power? My setup (see below) runs at 40db idle & 50db full power and has custom liquid cooling with 15 fans using the Hydrolux controlling hardware/software.

One option is to go with Apple's new Mac Pro which should keep you under 20dB with it's custom cooling setup. Otherwise you are most likely looking at something in the 40db range.

Here's a configuration using the HAF-X which is considered to be the best/quietest air-cooled case (uses large 200mm fans). I geared the graphics toward your professional use (rather than gaming) and included the 4960X as requested. It also uses all SSD for storage. Don't know what the dB level would be on this but you could also option for the 550D case (as mentioned above). It has built in sound reducer but may create a hotter overall system temp.

920046 $4872

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 4960X 3.6GHz (Six-Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 32GB DDR3 2133MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 850W Corsair RM
Storage Set 1: 1x (256GB Solid State (By: Samsung) (Model: 840 Pro Series)
Storage Set 2: 1x (1TB Solid State (By: Samsung) (Model: 840 EVO Series)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): NVIDIA Quadro K4000 3GB (Outputs: 1x DVI-I ; 2x DisplayPort 1.2)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Boost Processor: Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-Bit Edition)
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

Good Luck!!
HailStorm II
i7 4770K @ 4.5GHz
Asus Maximus VI Extreme
16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
3xSLI EVGA SuperClocked GTX TITAN
Samsung 840Pro SSD 256GB+512GB
HydroLux+XSPC CPU/MoBo/GPU Liquid Cooling
Back to Top
fstcvc View Drop Down
DS Veteran
DS Veteran

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 06 Jul 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2551
  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 9:28am
HailStorm II
i7 4770K @ 4.5GHz
Asus Maximus VI Extreme
16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
3xSLI EVGA SuperClocked GTX TITAN
Samsung 840Pro SSD 256GB+512GB
HydroLux+XSPC CPU/MoBo/GPU Liquid Cooling
Back to Top
forrest74 View Drop Down
DS Veteran
DS Veteran

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 15 Feb 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2642
  Quote forrest74 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 9:33am
Some considerations (much stolen from Geeks.com "Tech Tip 09 - 5 Simple Steps to a Quieter PC").

1) Fans make noise.  Fewer fans = less noise.
   a) Heat generating components have fans: Case fans, power supply, video card, and the CPU.
   b) Fans with sleeve or liquid bearings are quieter than fans with ball bearings. 
   c) Fan/temperature controllers will let you operate your fans at less than full speed.
   d) Higher rpm fans generate more noise than lower rpm fans.  Example:  The top fans on the HAF-X case, are larger and thus require a lower rpm to move a same volume of air.
   e) Some power supplies can vary its fan's rpm depending on the power draw.
   f) BEST SOLUTION are fanless heatsinks, i.e. Heat Pipes, which use liquid-vapor phase change properties to cool.  But these are Very Expensive. 

2) SSDs have no moving parts and will be quieter than spinning hard drives.

3) Cases with more openings (i.e. vents) will be louder, because openings let out noise. 

4) A case with few openings will be quieter.

5) Soundproofing material is effective on cases with few openings.

6) Internal gaskets between the case itself and either the power supply or case fans (or both) can help.
==================
Below links are for cases noted for being quiet. The first one is the Obsidian 550d, recommended by XpubuX above. The last case listed has no fans at all.

http://www.corsair.com/obsidian-series-550d-mid-tower-quiet-case.html
Obsidian Series 550D is carefully engineered for noise reduction and sound isolation. But, it’s not just about keeping things quiet — there’s amazing cooling potential, lots of expansion flexibility, and the durability that Obsidian Series is renowned for.

http://www.maximumpc.com/thermaltake_new_soprano_review2013
Finding a chassis that successfully combines practical noise dampening, useful features, and cooling can be a bit of a needle in the haystack sometimes—but in this case (pardon the pun), that’s Thermaltake’s New Soprano. This only has TWO case fans, which may not be enough cooling capacity (see next).

http://www.thinkcomputers.org/azza-silentium-920-case-review/5/
Review of the AZZA Silentium 920 Case explicitly says that TWO 120 mm fans is probably not enough cooling capacity.
==================

http://www.quietpc.com/tnn500af
IF you really are a true audiophile and REALLY want the best quiet case, you might ask Digital Storm to special order the Zalman TNN 500AF Totally No Noise Computer Case.  The aptly-named Totally No Noise 500AF (TNN 500AF) is the world's first absolutely noiseless and fanless computer case, from the number one quiet cooling manufacturer, Zalman. With a constant desire to have the ultimate PC comes faster and therefore noisier fans. As PC's become commonplace in a home environment, as well as in more specific fields such as audio and video production, so the benefit of a noiseless system is clear. When a high performance totally silent PC platform is required, this is the case of choice!



Back to Top
Counsel View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 29 Sep 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 125
  Quote Counsel Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by fstcvc

One option is to go with Apple's new Mac Pro which should keep you under 20dB with it's custom cooling setup. Otherwise you are most likely looking at something in the 40db range.

That's actually an option worth exploring further - by all accounts, the new Mac Pro is quiet, and the price comparisons have been pretty favorable if the offered configurations are a good fit for your needs. It uses workstation GPUs, too, which are a bad fit for gaming but a good fit for graphics work. That said, you'd need to look into the trade-offs - it's not built for overclocking, and there's no room for a sound card in that pretty little cylinder. (Or any internal expansion at all, really).

With respect to Digital Storm options, I recently purchased a Slade (Corsair 550D), all panels on, and it is an extremely quiet machine. It sits under my desk, and I've yet to hear any noise from it. Unfortunately I don't have a sound meter, but if you're sticking to a single GPU and can keep all the panels on, the Slade may well suit your needs.
Back to Top
drfm View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 29 May 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 52
  Quote drfm Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Jan 2014 at 8:20pm
Thanks for all the responses so far. I am reading a lot and learning along the way.

No Apple Mac for me (hate anything Apple related. I want control)

The Corsair 550D seems a good case but it is Mid Tower and will not take E-ATX cases for future upgradability. SO I am looking at full tower cases. The Computer I got from Digital storm is in a Cool Master 942 HAF X but it is all fan cooled and liquid cooled.

So I need a Full Tower Case with liquid cooling for booth the CPU and the graphics card (or one with quite fans).

I guess I have to accept some very low noise vs. silent for the power I am looking at.
Back to Top
Counsel View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie

Email address used to purchase matched with forums account email.

Joined: 29 Sep 2013
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 125
  Quote Counsel Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jan 2014 at 9:30am
Originally posted by drfm


So I need a Full Tower Case with liquid cooling for booth the CPU and the graphics card (or one with quite fans).

I guess I have to accept some very low noise vs. silent for the power I am looking at.


You might want to talk with Digital Storm about using a custom case such as the Fractal Define XL:
http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-xl-r2-black-pearl
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6764/fractal-design-define-xl-r2-case-review-maybe-we-can-have-it-all

There'll be a special order fee, and you'll be paying retail price on the case, but there are definitely E-ATX cases on the market that support water cooling and noise dampening.

The example I picked, the Define XL R2, hits just 35dB in a stress test, and that's without liquid cooling. Add liquid cooling and quiet (Corsair RM) or even fanless PSU (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-silent-passive,3189.html) and I imagine you'd be able to drop below 30dB even under load, which is the traditional definition of "whisper quiet."
Back to Top
Alex View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group

Digital Storm Supervisor


Joined: 04 Jun 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 16314
  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jan 2014 at 12:04pm
Great suggestions everyone!

The Fractal Define XL seems like a close fit, only issue is that it does not have enough radiator mounts for both GPU and GPU cooling unless you don't mind warmer fluid temps with the overclocked CPU.

To be honest, any system can be quiet to a certain degree, it's the fans that make the noise. If you pick our noise suppression package and select HydroLux to control chassis fans, you will get a fairly quiet computer.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.078125 seconds.