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Death Prodigy 
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 Topic: HydroLux QuestionsPosted: 30 Apr 2014 at 8:58pm |
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Well,
I have a few questions on HydroLux exotic cooling. Is this expensive cooling option worth it if I get CPU only cooling? How would it fare against a H110i? I will not be ccoling the chipset or GPU. It's a $500 price difference. Thanks. |
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 2:41am |
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For a moderate cpu overclock, the H110 cooler will work just fine.
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 3:57am |
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How about an i7 4930k overclocked to about 4.8GHz? I wonder if the system will run very hot with that, 3 EVGA SC 780 Tis, a Rampage IV Black under ambient temperatures (18-20 degrees) with the H110i as mentioned above? It will be in a Hailstorm II case (Standard Chassis Fans) which apparently provides good airflow. Like I said, I've seen that GPU and chipset watercooling is overkill and good air cooling can easily get 1200MHz core overclocks on EVGA SC 780 Ti GPUs. The HydroLux does seem cool and packed with state of the art liquid cooling features, but is it really worth the expense?
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 4:48am |
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If you to push that 6 core chip to 4.8, then water cooling is needed in most cases. DS could actually give you the best answer. I would call and ask them what they see is needed.
Video cards in a case with excellent air flow will take care of themselves. Same for the chipset. But if you want to get as much oc as possible with gpu and ram then water cooling is your best bet for cooling and noise. Overclocking is the deciding factor over what you need for cooling. I would think the 900d case would need the side fan option installed in the side window to give a tri-sli overclocked cards enough fresh air. Edited by bprat22 - 01 May 2014 at 4:53am |
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 5:35am |
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Yes, I will be overclocking the cards (There's not really any need to since the SC ACX 780 Ti cards are already extremely powerful by themselves with core clocks of about 1100MHz, but there's still headroom to push it further to 1200MHz and above without needing watercooling). Is the Hailstorm II case based of Corsair 900D?
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 5:47am |
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Yep, the Hailstorm 2 is actually the Corsair 900D case in case you want to Google it and see test results.
Overclocking the video cards beyond the factory overclock does run some risk of shortening the life span of the cards. With a tri-sli setup, I question the need for a higher than factory overclock since each card contributes less than the previous by the nature of sli scaling. But, overclocking is popular. Each to their own. |
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 7:32am |
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Here is a link to a review of the case: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6900/corsair-obsidian-900d-case-review-think-big-thats-only-half-as-large
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 8:20am |
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Yep, I've seen that case and it sure looks large but definitely not overwhelming.
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 01 May 2014 at 8:21am |
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Well, CPU only exotic cooling it is then.
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Sounds like a plan.
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If you are going that route, then you should just go with a closed loop system, rather then the custom loop. It will save you maintenance on the system. Though, you may not get quite as good of cooling since most closed loops have aluminum radiators vs some customs have copper radiators. |
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 02 May 2014 at 6:06pm |
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The exotic cooling has alot more features and it has better cooling.
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 03 May 2014 at 6:24am |
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Well, but since danjw1 brought up that a closed loop system would be better for CPU only, what if I were to cool my GPU as well (I'll be getting 3x SLI EVGA Superclocked 780 Tis)? Will the HydroLux (3x GPUs + CPU + Chipset be better or worse than the HydroLux Copper Cooling System (Aventum II build)? Which offers better cooling and looks cooler (pun intended, lol) Also, I may not even need to cool the GPU, as moderate overclocks to about 1200MHz for turbo clock don't require that, but the HydroLux watercooling could push it to 1400MHz and above, would there be alot of difference in gaming at 4K between thosr two clock speeds?
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The copper tubing doesn't add to any cooling, but does look awesome if the wallet$$ allows.
 Not sure you'd get to 1400Mhz and if you did, I don't know what the performance difference would be. I think above a moderate oc, its more bragging rights than actual performance, unless you do rendering that squeezes the card for all its worth. Overclock forums would be a better source of info. |
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Posted: 03 May 2014 at 7:31am |
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The Aventum allows for 3 420 radiators (3 140mm fan mounts each (2 in bottom section and one on top). It is unclear if these can be swapped for 4x 120mm radiators.
The Hailstorm allows up to 480/420 (4x 120mm fan mounts or 3x 140mm) on top and either side on the bottom. One of the bottom mounts will have 2 have 2 fan slots blocked by the power supply. You get more radiator area from 3x 140mm arrangement then from the 4x 120mm arrangement. From the most recent information I have seen 120mm vs 140mm the 120mm out perform the 140mm on a noise to static pressure stand point. Static pressure is the most important statistic for a radiator/heatsink fan, since it indicates the ability to push air through a resistant barrier. As far as what to expect with current games, I suggest you look at the benchmarks in this review that shows numbers for the current high end graphics cards: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7930/the-amd-radeon-r9-295x2-review |
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 03 May 2014 at 6:51pm |
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Well.... I guess then I'd have to wait for the next '15% off' sale around July or Christmas this year to afford the copper cooling system lol
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 04 May 2014 at 12:54am |
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By the way, don't mean to sidetrack but is there a way to find out the shipping weight of the desktop? Can I get a weight estimate? Also I will be getting a third-party shipping company (Comgateway) to ship my desktop back as I live in Singapore and Digital Storm's shipping costs are extremely high. Will using a third-party company to ship run a high risk of mishandling or damaging the desktop's liquid cooling system (If I pick the copper cooling option)
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 04 May 2014 at 3:45am |
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Anybody got an answer so far?
I figured given the price of my configuration ($7,500) I might as well go the whole hog and use Digital Storm's freight shipping (which seems extremely expensive)? There isn't much option here, though their shipping will definitely cost over $2,000 to ship such a system internationally. |
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Posted: 04 May 2014 at 4:43am |
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You may need to call or email them and ask that question as none of us know. Unless Nav or Alex comes back on.
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Posted: 04 May 2014 at 6:34am |
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What Arkansas said.
Unless someone here has your build there is no way for us to know the weight. Give DS the config # you've decided on and they can help. |
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In the photos I have seen the copper tubing actually looks thinner then what I would expect from plastic tubing. This may lead to worse cooling due to lower flow rate. I would suggest asking about the ID for both sorts of tubing. Edited by danjw1 - 04 May 2014 at 8:41am |
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It's around 100LBS-120LBS.
Should not be, but we can't guarantee that. Since it's on a pallet if you're doing freight, you should be fine as the system would have to be handled with pallet jacks and forklifts. |
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The ID (inner diameter) of the copper and custom HydroLux liquid cooling is the same (3/8th). Flow rates will be roughly the same. The non-copper liquid cooling uses thick tubing to help reduce condensation and prevent kinks from bends. |
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 04 May 2014 at 9:05pm |
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100LBS-120LBS is actually pretty light, what's with the high shipping costs? |
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Like bprat mentioned in the other post shipping cost is whatever the carrier and the country's import duties say they are. Its pretty much out of DS's hands on the shipping cost. |
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Usually it's import duty/tax that makes shipping expensive.
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Death Prodigy
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Posted: 05 May 2014 at 7:33pm |
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Well, I emailed customer service and I was quoted about $1400 in freight shipping charges for an 80lbs Aventum II, is the Aventum II freight shipping only? Or I can opt for ground shipping?
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