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Post Date: 2020-08-25

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  Quote couch_shocking_goose Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: i9 rig for gaming, ps, vr, and long life
    Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 3:27pm
Budget:
2700 (3k-300)

Expectations:
8+ years of useful computer life without needing new CPU/Motherboard

Usage:

Primary Usage:

* Gaming (all kinds, more simulation and strategy than FPS though)
- e.g. City Skylines, Poly Bridge, Civilization, Tabletop Simulator, Roblox with my godson

* VR use (Unit not yet purchased) - Mostly to get away during quarantine

* Design and large image manipulation (Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator)
- RAW, large scans, batch manipulation as well

Secondary Usage:
* Coding (Compiling) and large dataset manipulation, maybe some dabbling in ML

Special Needs:

* Currently have a Dell U2415 monitor for general use, but may invest in a 4k TV/Monitor as well.

* Would like a quiet PC as much as possible. DS staff recommended Slade or Antec for sound dampening

* Don't care about looks. Old school. No bling necessary. Just reliability, quiet, and speed. My office can get up to 77F/25C - if that factors in to reliability/temps.

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Specifications:

Digital Storm Desktop - Config ID 3343040 - SKU 2825799     
     $3,022.00
     
System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Slade X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i9-10900K (5.3 GHz Turbo) (20-Thread) (10-Core) 3.7 Ghz
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z490 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 850W Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: - No Thanks
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Add On Card: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
CPU Boost: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Graphics: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 15-20 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

I chose Intel after reading and reading and reading some more about performance of "regular" applications like photoshop - as well as gaming.

I chose the HERO motherboard for the 5G lan and the ability to go to 128GB someday. (The 5G was appealing because I have a 2G NAS to deal with.)

I chose the Samsung Evo Plus because it seems to be the best PCIe Gen3 in terms of average write speed. (I was tempted by the Gen4 MSI motherboard and Seagate, but it seemed unnecessary and started to push the price up.)

I have a Win 10 Pro license I can repurpose, but I wanted DS to install home just to have something for them to stress test.

I plan on adding my own additional storage because the prices for regular SSDs have come down more than DS reflects currently.

The 2070S seemed like the right price point for something I may or may not upgrade later. (The 2808S didn't seem to have the value proposition for something who doesn't play a lot of first person shooters.) But I welcome feedback here. Aiming to hit the magical 3k mark for the 300 dollar discount.

Thanks!!
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  Quote couch_shocking_goose Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 3:59pm
* Double checking : The System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series is one stick, correct?

* In case anyone is curious, I was severely tempted by the Creator motherboard for the Thunderbolt 3, but the lack of SLI support seemed sorta heartbreaking.

Edited by couch_shocking_goose - 25 Aug 2020 at 4:16pm
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  Quote Bob100 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 4:30pm
If you are putting a high priority on sound suppression, I would suggest the Corsair ML (magnetic lev) chassis fans. I have 6 of those on my Lumos and they are virtually silent.
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  Quote Cafejay Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 5:11pm
I should look into those for my 8 year old Digital Storm system, because I still don’t have to upgrade it, but some of the fans are getting louder.
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 3:44am
No problems. You seem to know what you need and what you want. Ram is dual channel, so, at least 2 sticks are required. You can specify 2x 16GB in remarks.
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  Quote couch_shocking_goose Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 9:34am
Thanks for the tip on the fans!

And to the memory. Thanks for the tip on the remarks!

Much appreciated!
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  Quote couch_shocking_goose Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 4:54pm
Ah. I found the memory pairings in the pop-up and upgraded accordingly. (Looks like you have to go with the cosair to get 2x16)

Also - given that it is impossible to get a Thunderbolt expasion card these days, I have decided to swap in the ProArt.

Digital Storm Desktop - Config ID 3347030 - SKU 2829374     
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     $3,102.00
     
System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Slade X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i9-10900K (5.3 GHz Turbo) (20-Thread) (10-Core) 3.7 Ghz
Motherboard: ASUS ProART Z490-CREATOR 10G (Thunderbolt) (Z490) (Up to 2x PCI-E) (No SLI Support)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Power Supply: 850W Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: - No Thanks
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Add On Card: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
CPU Boost: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Graphics: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 15-20 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote couch_shocking_goose Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 4:58pm
It looks like the fan upgrade options are limited on DS - so I'll have to look for the ML fans elsewhere.
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 4:06am
Those fans are available for the other cases. There must be some reason they don't sell them for the Slade. No idea why, but you should ask before you order fans that won't fit.
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  Quote couch_shocking_goose Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 3:55pm
Hrm. I tried swapping out the Slade for the Velox and still the same two fans show up.

Corsair LL Series (RGB Fans) (Software Controlled Effects)
[+$279] Special Offer

Thermaltake Riing Plus (RGB Fans) (Software Controlled Effects)
[+$289]

My guess is that DS is just having trouble keeping the ML fans in stock. (I asked about the ASUS ThunderboltEX 3-TR yesterday, and that was the answer for that particular part. I'm extrapolating from that and other online sites.)

It looks like another internet retailer might have a twin pack of the ML fans coming in mid-September. I'll ping the DS folks to make sure, but it looks like the Slade can fit two 140s in the front according to the spec popup.

As long as they do indeed fit, sounds like they're what I'm looking for. Thank again!
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 3:41am
Ahhh, you would be right about availability. I didn't even consider that.
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