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Post Date: 2010-10-06
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    Posted: 06 Oct 2010 at 7:39pm
Budget is around $2000 (give or take $300)

I do not need a monitor (have 23in LG)..do not need keyboard or Mouse and i do not need any sound setup (have all that taken care of)

Im looking for a 2nd computer for my in town house...i pretty much will only use it for WoW, Bluray and backup the movies i have...my expectation would be able to run WoW @ max settings with top fps(60)

Also..i have 2X1TB WD Caviar Black in Raid0 (OS Win7 HDDs) on my current HAF 932,,,i was wanting to be able to take those 2 out...and put them on my new computer and just boot up that OS without needing to reinstall the games i have and movies i have on the PC im looking to buy

i do have a 1.5TB Seagate external and a 1TB WD Green Power in a docking bay for extra storage

i do want the computer to come with 2X 1TB raid0 with OS install for days that im only there for a few hours to a day (no time for movies and what not)

i dont really know anything about Hot Swapping or Dual booting so any clarification would be awesome

current comp specs are:
i7 920 (2.6 i think)
EVGA X58 SLI
2X Nvidia 295s SLI
6gb ddr3
1200 watt PS
2x 1TB WD Black Cav in raid0


what i have in mind for the new one is this:
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=446028


Specifications: 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI 3 Edition (Intel X58 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s) (Model: 131-GT-E767)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series  (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended) 
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 2x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 0 Config - Stripe Performance (Requires Two HDDs)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) 
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Killer 2100 (Maximum Optimized for Online Gaming) Lag and Latency Reduction 
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (i7 Processors Only)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected


also on a side note...anyone with Killer 2100 network card...is it worth the 150 extra for it...i have a wired connetion




Edited by ready2r - 06 Oct 2010 at 7:43pm
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for your questions hot swapping is switching out Hard drives while the computer is on. Dual boot is being able to boot 2 operating systems on one computer. you can't run them at the same time but its nice in some cases. there is not anyone that will recommend the killer card. the best way to get less lag and faster internet ect is to upgrade your internet plan or change to a faster isp. From what i've read about it there isn't even any noticeable difference.
For your build you made:
Raid 1 is a complete waste in my opinion for a few reasons. its a huge waste of money (as all raid setups are) but more importantly if one of the raid hd's crash then the other one is completely unusable and unrecoverable. thats why i'd stay away from raid 0.
If i were you i would upgrade to the gtx 480. its the newest card and will last you longer then the 470. Plus with gaming the gpu is a big deal. not as much with WOW but still makes a good difference. Good choice with the cpu cooler :). I'd get internal lighting if i were you its only $10 and i believe theres a switch to turn it off but its up to you there easy to install so no big deal.
Lastly don't forget your free copy of just cause 2 (which is an awesome game btw! i've been playing the demo a bit) and a free t-shirt.
other then that nice build.
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Originally posted by maxyme

for your questions hot swapping is switching out Hard drives while the computer is on. Dual boot is being able to boot 2 operating systems on one computer. you can't run them at the same time but its nice in some cases. there is not anyone that will recommend the killer card. the best way to get less lag and faster internet ect is to upgrade your internet plan or change to a faster isp. From what i've read about it there isn't even any noticeable difference.

Thanks for clearing up the difference between swapping and dual booting

yea i didn't think the upgraded network card would be worth it...i run cable with wired and im usually at a low Latency when im on WoW (100-125 Lat)

Originally posted by maxyme


For your build you made:
Raid 1 is a complete waste in my opinion for a few reasons. its a huge waste of money (as all raid setups are) but more importantly if one of the raid hd's crash then the other one is completely unusable and unrecoverable. thats why i'd stay away from raid 0.


Yea i know that Raid0 is where they split the data between 2 disks...making it faster to access data...and raid1 is where they just mirror the disks..which is safer if one disk fails?....i switched my setup to 40g solid state and 2 X 1TB media disks ...would i be able to take those 2 out and put in the 2 X 1TB from my current computer and dual boot to either OS? how safe is it to actually do it?..switch HDs from computer to computer like twice a month.


Originally posted by maxyme


If i were you i would upgrade to the gtx 480. its the newest card and will last you longer then the 470. Plus with gaming the gpu is a big deal. not as much with WOW but still makes a good difference. Good choice with the cpu cooler :). I'd get internal lighting if i were you its only $10 and i believe theres a switch to turn it off but its up to you there easy to install so no big deal.
Lastly don't forget your free copy of just cause 2 (which is an awesome game btw! i've been playing the demo a bit) and a free t-shirt.
other then that nice build.


I went ahead and up to gtx 480 and i think im going to pass on the lighting as of now...the current set up added another $290ish to my last setup...getting close to the max i want to spend

this is the new setup:
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=446054


Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI 3 Edition (Intel X58 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s) (Model: 131-GT-E767)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series  (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended) 
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Drive Force Series CSSD-F40GB2) 
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 2x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX) 
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) 
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology) 
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (i7 Processors Only) 
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected




thanks again for the advice


Edited by ready2r - 06 Oct 2010 at 8:53pm
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Yea i know that Raid0 is where they split the data between 2 disks...making it faster to access data...and raid1 is where they just mirror the disks..which is safer if one disk fails?....i switched my setup to 40g solid state and 2 X 1TB media disks ...would i be able to take those 2 out and put in the 2 X 1TB from my current computer and dual boot to either OS? how safe is it to actually do it?..switch HDs from computer to computer like twice a month.

with raid 0 if one of the 2 disk fails all data is lost. raid 1 if one is lost the second one can be used as a backup.

i don't think it would be a good idea trying to boot from a version of windows from another computer. It could mess up things with drivers and stuff... you could boot from your ssd and open the hdd from your other computer in my computer. why are you getting 2x1tb drives?


dual booting is mainly for booting off of things like linux and windows on the same computer.
i think i got most of your questions. anything else just ask.

oh and hows your monitor? whats the max resolution?

edit: and don't forget your free game.
and also the video card overclocking generally isn't recommended because its not like cpu overclocking, its alot of heat increase for a small performance increase (usually no more then 4fps) and the gtx 480 runs very solid on its own. it also shortens the gpu's life more then it does with cpus.


Edited by maxyme - 06 Oct 2010 at 10:53pm
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