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  Quote Bontchimuz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Is it ok to leave your computer running 24/7
    Posted: 23 Sep 2007 at 2:40pm
I have always left my pc running 24/7......almost never turn it off.

Is this a bad thing to do?

Since I am a soon to be owner of a DSO computer...I want to know how I shopuld be treating it.

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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2007 at 3:29pm
It is bad for your electricity bill but good for your computer.

If you use it often, you want to leave it on 24/7 instead of turning it on and off every hour.

I leave mine on 24/7 and I know several others who do as well.


Edited by skyR - 23 Sep 2007 at 3:38pm
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  Quote Bill the Cat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2007 at 4:19pm

I agree with skyR, except that I turn my machine off when I go to bed, so it's only on 17/7.

The world is pretty well evenly divided about whether it is worse for your computer's chips to be powered up constantly or to go through the thermal shock of being turned on and off. Leaving the system on also increases ware  on the motors of your disk drives and fans. Those mechanical devices do occasionally fail,  but it's never happend to me in over 25 years.
 
If I trusted Window's sleep/hybernation modes, I'd be tempted to leave it on all the time, but I don't. Cry
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  Quote 67alecto Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2007 at 5:28pm
Mine are only turned off if we go on a trip longer than 3 days or if there's an electrical storm.
 
 
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2007 at 6:42pm
I've always left it on 24/7... never had issues.  Take good measures to have a great security program and/or router firewalls and always have registry cleaner programs available to clean up when necessary.  You should never have issues.  Most attempts hackers throw at users are rarely a home user with the ordinary crap on their system.  Most security programs register hits because hackers/surfers are simply on their way past your port and that registers as an attack.  I just shut the monitor off when I go to bed or away from the home office.  
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  Quote 4261 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2007 at 10:45pm
Servers are meant and built to be on 24/7 b/c they work 24/7.
Your computer wasn't meant and wasn't built for 24/7 usage.
Best policy is to turn it off when you will not be using it.
Modern circuits will last decades.
If you don't believe this, I have tons of snake oil, err, Monster Brand cables, etc., to sell you at extraordinary markup.
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  Quote 67alecto Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 12:57am
Originally posted by 4261

Servers are meant and built to be on 24/7 b/c they work 24/7.
Your computer wasn't meant and wasn't built for 24/7 usage.
Best policy is to turn it off when you will not be using it.
Modern circuits will last decades.
If you don't believe this, I have tons of snake oil, err, Monster Brand cables, etc., to sell you at extraordinary markup.
 
And why shouldn't I believe your snappy anecdotal evidence, you're on the internet!
 
All of my PCs were left on 24/7 and survived well past when they became obsolete for what I wanted to do with them.  I actually did the math on my two XP machines - 80,000 hours of up time between them since I only turn them off if we go out of town for more than a long weekend or while an electrical storm is in the area.
 
486 25 mhz - on constantly for all 4 years of college.  Upgraded the memory (8mb, woo hoo!), soundcard (soundblaster for Doom), and various modems from 2400 to 33.6k.  Replaced after 5 years since the 100mb hard drive just wasn't cutting it and it didn't have a CD drive. 1992-1997.  Cannibalized for parts.
 
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2.7 and 3.2gb.  Win 95.  I'm pretty sure I had 32mb of RAM.  Holy crap, I spent $2700 on this bad boy.  In the afternoon of 12/31/99, my video card suddenly died.  For 2 seconds, I thought y2k - 1 day early!  1997-2002+
This CPU was going strong, but my wife was tired of using her 486 DX/2 50mhz with the linux partion, so I passed it on to her to build my own...
 
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All my machines are left on all the time.  It started back because my 486 took about 3 days to boot up, and I've never felt any need to shut them off.
 
You'd have to go back to my TRS80 or TI 99/4A for a computer that I would shut down.
 
 
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  Quote commast Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 1:47am
It's all depends on your preference. Leave your PC on 24/7 will leave your PC vulnerable to internet attack if you don't have a good firewall,antivirus or antispyware apps. It also may cause premature hardware failures if it doesn't have good cooling, other than that and the electric bill Big%20smile there's no harm in leaving it on 24/7. I usually turn off my PC after use and if i have it running overnight, i would set my firewall to block all internet access after a set amount of time.
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  Quote thecomplex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 8:26am
I think it's OK in terms of your computer not dying on you, but it isn't particularly conscientious. There's no reason to be wantonly wasting energy - at least put it to sleep (your computer will burn something like 1-6 watts per hour, a fraction of what you would normally be burning if it were fully on).

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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 9:14am
Originally posted by commast

It's all depends on your preference. Leave your PC on 24/7 will leave your PC vulnerable to internet attack if you don't have a good firewall,antivirus or antispyware apps. It also may cause premature hardware failures if it doesn't have good cooling, other than that and the electric bill Big%20smile there's no harm in leaving it on 24/7. I usually turn off my PC after use and if i have it running overnight, i would set my firewall to block all internet access after a set amount of time.


I agree with commast.  In todays day and age, if you don't have a good comprehensive security package, you deserve the hack.

There are so many great programs that will keep people out these days and you'd be a fool not to be proactive and find them.  Great freeware and affordable security programs are readily available that there really is no excuse for not having something.

I've never been hacked, not to say that I wouldn't be hacked, but the chances of you getting hacked as Joe blow consumer is slim (Unless you have enemies and have "friends" in low places).  I've never ever turned my system off.  I've never ever had heating problems because its been left on.  I've never had equipment failure because I leave it on.  You'll most likely change hardware for an upgrade before you ever burn out  piece of hardware.

Bottom line, it is personal preference.  Based on what you've experienced in your past with hardware, hackers and electric bills is what you should base your decision in, and not what is necessarily working for others.

NOTE:  It is very hard on your hardware when you boot from off.  You will run more risk damaging it in the long term by doing that rather than leaving it on all the time.
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  Quote GruntMaster Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 10:22am

This may be a dumb question, but can pc's in sleep mode still be hacked?

I have left my pc on for 5 years straight and just have it set to go to sleep after being idle. The only other time I've shut it off is when on vacation or if I need to force quite for some reason.
 
I actually do turn off my DS pc when I'm not using it...mostly because I don't want my 2 year old messing with it or my wife surfing the net on it. I'm very protective of my new pc, but otherwise, I'd probably leave it on too.
 
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  Quote Jeff Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 11:46am
It'a a lot like your car, a lot of stop and starts are harder on parts than just letting things run constant.
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  Quote TheLastSuperman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 6:26pm

Much of this is very accurate but someone has forgotten the basics...

If you use cable it is possible for surges to come through the actual cable wire into the provided modem and into your computer!
 
You also need to make sure your outlets are grounded before making that one outlet near your "best" spot the primary outlet for leaving it on 24/7 OR you can install a GFCI outlet which is as close to being grounded as your going to get if you have unstable power or old wiring.
 
Now it may seem excessive to many of you but an AVR (Automatic Voltage Regulator) is a plus in my book if it's on 24/7, I use a CyberPower 1200AVR.
 
Just some things to consider when deciding if your leaving it on 24/7 :)


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  Quote TheLastSuperman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by GruntMaster

This may be a dumb question, but can pc's in sleep mode still be hacked?

I have left my pc on for 5 years straight and just have it set to go to sleep after being idle. The only other time I've shut it off is when on vacation or if I need to force quite for some reason.
 
I actually do turn off my DS pc when I'm not using it...mostly because I don't want my 2 year old messing with it or my wife surfing the net on it. I'm very protective of my new pc, but otherwise, I'd probably leave it on too.
 
 
YES but..... here is what to consider!
 
Do you do enormous online purchasing?
Do you visit shady sites often?
Have you ticked off anyone that has some skills?
 
If not then chances are the one hacker with the skills is not out hacking your computer - He/She is going for a bigger fish to fry.
 
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  Quote Robert Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2007 at 6:30pm
I'm against 24/7 on. Unless you're downloading files all the time, it's just a waste of power.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Sep 2007 at 2:02am
I agree with Robert.
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