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    Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 6:57pm
I've always had this question. Is the unreliability of vista worth dx10, and is the dx10 tweak for xp worth getting xp over vista. Ive looked into this, and there's been mixed opinions. I would like to know, once and for all, which OS is better.
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 8:46pm
Considering you've  heard and/or seen mixed opinions, why would you think you're going to get a definitive answer here?  It boils down to preference and how much you think you'd like to take the chance of dealing with issues or not.  No one here can give you any better answer than you've gotten anywhere else about Vista vs. XP.  I've had no issues with Vista and I'm glad I left XP.  I didn't have problems with XP, I just wanted more eye candy and have the latest OS available.  Just personal preference.

You can read and hear all you can about it, but you never know until you get it.  Good luck.
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 9:34pm
Im honestly only going for vista because its basically future proof. The way microsoft has been going trying to shove it down peoples throats by having only certain things work via it, is kinda proof to me enough that they are gonna eventually just pull the plug of support on XP pretty soon.
 
While i think XP is better overall, Vista cant get any worse (I hope) and it still will be improved in the future. XP is about as far down the rail as its gonna go, i doubt they will be doing anymore updates with it.
 
Its not as bad as it sounds online, but it definally has a few annoyances.
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I ordered a system w/ vista and decided to send it back.  Most of the games I play now will not utilize the direct x 10 anyway.  For me the aggravation and slowness of Vista was not worth any new features. 
 
I talked to alot of people and got an even 50-50 response.  Of the people I spoke to noone was just ok with Vista btw, they either love it or hate it, several people were developers who have a bit more everyday knowledge about software.  A few people even suggested I run XP insdide of Vista.   I think it comes down to what do you do on your computer. 
 
Overall I am not impressed at all with vista, infact I am very disapointed at how slow it is overall.  I don't need eye candy from my OS I'll save that for gaming.
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  Quote MarkNY Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 4:18pm
just dual boot vista and xp.
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 4:32pm
Originally posted by Malavir

I ordered a system w/ vista and decided to send it back.  Most of the games I play now will not utilize the direct x 10 anyway.  For me the aggravation and slowness of Vista was not worth any new features. 
 
I talked to alot of people and got an even 50-50 response.  Of the people I spoke to noone was just ok with Vista btw, they either love it or hate it, several people were developers who have a bit more everyday knowledge about software.  A few people even suggested I run XP insdide of Vista.   I think it comes down to what do you do on your computer. 
 
Overall I am not impressed at all with vista, infact I am very disapointed at how slow it is overall.  I don't need eye candy from my OS I'll save that for gaming.


I don't know what you're running with Vista that could make you say it's slow, but I have no issues with the speed of the OS.  I don't use Internet Exploder because that browser is  slower than Mozilla.  If that's what you're referring to, then I can see that you can make that assessment about the speed of Vista.  However, IE is slow with XP vs. Mozilla also.

If you have enough RAM and processing with Vista you'll have no slowdowns at all.  The good news for me?  I have eye candy in my OS, eye candy in my gaming and speed in both because my system is built to handle it.  What's the lesson?  Build a system that will support anything you throw at it and you'll be just fine with whatever OS you decide to purchase.


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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 4:32pm
Originally posted by MarkNY

just dual boot vista and xp.


The best of both worlds.
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  Quote Mythius101 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 5:18pm
Unless you are using some ancient piece of software, Vista is the way to go.  With Service Pack 1 out now, most problems that originally came with Vista are taken care of.  The only limitation is hardware, and really any computer that you buy nowadays will be fine.
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 7:05pm
Originally posted by Mythius101

Unless you are using some ancient piece of software, Vista is the way to go.  With Service Pack 1 out now, most problems that originally came with Vista are taken care of.  The only limitation is hardware, and really any computer that you buy nowadays will be fine.


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  Quote thx Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 7:39pm
thanks a lot for the advice. I think im going to go with 64 bit vista but with 4 gigs of ram, because i've heard that the 64 bit has less problems, but will only work correctly if one has 4 gigs of ram.
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 8:16pm
Actually, 64 bit Vista was the more problematic version.  And yes, 64 bit sees 4 gigs, so you can go with that set-up and utilize all 4 gigs.  64 bit had less drivers available than the 32 bit version when it was released but it has gotten much better.  I will be upgrading to the 64bit version within the next 3 to 4 months.  I'm Vista all the way.  

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  Quote bucephalusbaghdad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 9:41pm
I dont have any issues with Vista on my new rig, but I certainly did on my wifes laptop. intel core 3 duo @ about 1.7 with nvidia 7150 and a gig of ram. not nearly enough to be running vista, it was slow as sin and the UAC did me in before i knew what was going on. i reformatted and put xp on it, forced the drivers to load on xp, and am very glad to have done so.

like i said though, my new rig has absolutely no issues with it so far. and i love me some powerboost technology. i think powerboost turned my opinion of vista upside-down.
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  Quote thx Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 10:09pm
thanks alot. does this sound like a good setup for that? (and if theres any way to cut corners in price withought much of a preformance drop could you tell me)

Case: Digital Storm 450Si (Black Aluminum Edition)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 680i LT Core 2 Quad (nForce 680i LT SLI)
Memory: 4GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
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Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: Linksys Wireless-N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9800GX2 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Zalman Case Fans)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs
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Overclock Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Overclock Video Card: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Overclock Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Corsair Dominator Airflow Fan Upgrade)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 10:47pm
You will run into heating issues definitely with a 9800GX2 in a 450S case. You want a 850S or 950S case if you really want to pick the 9800GX2.
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  Quote Mythius101 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 11:07pm
4 gigs of RAM in Vista 64 is a good idea.

Go with an X-Fi over the Audigy soundcard, or just do onboard sound.

What SkyR said about the case.

Everything else looks good.
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  Quote thx Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Mar 2008 at 6:36am
well i was trying to decide between the 8800gtx or the 9800gx2. I might go to the gtx because in the future i could add a second w/the power supply i have. Also, im thinking of adding some more cooling fans myself, and i live in maine Wink so its pretty cold there.
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  Quote thx Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Mar 2008 at 6:40am
or the 9800 gtx. i think ill get me one of those and go with the x-fi gamer. Thanks a ton for the help
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