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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 3:53pm

Great specs, if I can offer some suggestions,

get the i5 750 cpu, it's a great overclocker with no hyper threading malarkey, superb value for the money, and great for gaming.

Change the Asetek to a Noctua 12 or 14 (I believe the only enclosed lc unit worth buying is the corsair h50 because it's a souped up version of the asetek, and all other enclosed lc units are inferior to good air-coolers)

Take all that money you saved and change your gpu to a 5870 its cooler faster newer and only slightly more expensive than the older hotter slower and obsolete 280.

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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 4:20pm

Suggestions are always welcome, thanks :)

I looked long and hard between the i5 750 and the i7 860, and found a lot of numbers in a lot of places showing the 860 as a superior cpu. Especially in an OC situation. Take that for what it is I guess, but even if the 860 is only slightly better, and only costs me 20 more dollars...why not? As for the asetek, yeah I've read in several places that it doesnt compare with a good air cooler, problem is all those air coolers were just straight out of my budget. So I was trying to go with the most decent cooling solution for the least amount of money. I thought about paying 20 more bucks for the V8, but DS themselves list the asetek as a stage 2, and the V8 as a stage 1. That may be an error on their part though. The money I saved upgraded me from a 275 to a 285, and that took me to my cap on what I could spend, so alas the extra $100+ it'd take to boost up to the 5870 just isn't there. Kinda partial to Nvidia anway. But i'm just an amatuer lol. Thanks for the advice!

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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 4:36pm

the asetek is listed as stage 2, but it is not a 'genuine' liquid cooler .. between a high-performance air cooler and a full-performance liquid cooler. the v8 is actually a great air cooler as is the noctua, most times, if not all the time (i don't have the asetek, but the v8) outperforming the asetek.

everything else seems to be fine. the gpu can be upgraded later seeing that you were on a budget. dx11 cards by nvidia will be released soon, so you can start saving for that.

enjoy your new system !!

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i7-920 oc'd @ 3.6 ghz (1.28v)
evga x58 le edition sli
cooler master v8
6 gb ddr3 1600 mhz mushkin
evga nvidia geforce gtx 295 co-op edition
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Posted: 13 Feb 2010 at 4:46pm

Yeah, it's an in betweener. But i think it'll get the job done, espeicially with a lower temp system such as the p55 is. Now an x58 system.. I'd probably be a little nervous with it. Though I may consider paying $20 more for the v8 if it's as good as you say.

Yep, that's the plan, go with this for now and upgrade later :)

Thanks!

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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 12:52am

who told you p55 is lower temp? also lower temp on what? gpu had nothing to do with p55, and your cpu has to do with the chip itself, there is no guarantee that you will have lower temps.

with x58 at-least you can upgrade the cpu down the road to have a more powerful pc, as far as temps, you gonna be around the same temps with a 920 @3.7 or an 860 @ 3.7GHz, again there are no guarantees, it all depends on the chip, the 920 cold be higher, the 920 could be lower, its the luck of the draw.

you mayb bottle neck with multi gpu on a p55 tho.

you should have gone with 5870 for better performance on games now and future games, but if you wanted nvidia then you should have gone with a 275 cause the difference is like 4 fps in most games.

I would go with the v8 or Noctua if I were you.

Edited by DST4ME - 14 Feb 2010 at 12:54am

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers

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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 10:59am

I've read on a few on-hand reviews that put the two boards/chipsets (as far as the i7 860 and i7 920) head to head and found very little difference in performance, but a noticeable difference in heat. http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3649&p=2

I've seen plenty of your posts DST, I know how you feel about reviews and ratings onlilne.. I was using it as a guideline. It consumes less power.. less power = less heat? The CPU is what we're talking about here. I don't see myself going to SLI, planning on sticking to a single gpu. If it gets to the point where I'm going to want to go SLI, if the x8 is a bottleneck concern at that point, I'll plan on a full upgrade then... board/cpu/gpu.

It's a budget deal, the 5870 is just outright too much.. But noted about the 275/285. It's a big increase in cost for only 4 fps.

I really do appreciate all the suggestions and advice, dont think it falls on deaf ears. I think I'll call tomorrow and have them tweak the build to this, please advise:

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 860 2.80GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA P55 SLI (Intel P55 Chipset)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Series
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Available
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - Not Available
Office: - Not Available
Benchmarking: - Not Available
Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
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Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 11:11am

One more thing.. Opinions on mushkin vs corsair ram? That build leaves a small bit of change leftover, about the cost of upgrading to the corsair memory. No other upgrades for whats left to play with.

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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 11:25am

of course the p55 puts out less heat, less power=less heat.

The Mushkin here and the Corsair have the same timings so performance will be the same, so get what is cheaper

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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 2:45pm

I hear overclocking the memory in the corsair is much easier/better. I went with Corsair in mine because it got really good review on Newegg and solid memory chips are important

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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 4:29pm

remove the heat spreaders and you will find that they both have the same IC's..

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Posted: 14 Feb 2010 at 11:37pm

Ok. Thanks everyone for your help and advice. Going to go with that build, I'll call Sarah up tomorrow and have her tweak the build like i posted.

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