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    Posted: 21 Dec 2008 at 8:25am
I have a 8400 stock at 3.0 OC'd to a minor 3.3.  My CPU temps are around the low 50's while just doing nothing.  Then jumps to the high 50's to low 60's while playing games.  I do have evga precision and yes im overclocking my 8800gts's and running my fans at 100%.  So my question is... is the temps ok?  I live in a kinda humid place but its getting a liitle cold and I noticed that the temps went down since it started to get cold (go figure). 
Now nomally with no OC, the temps are around mid 40's, so with a little OC(3.3), the temps go up to the mid 50's and if I OC to 3.5 the temps go up to the high 50's mid 60's (these temps are both playing games and not). 
I thought I picked a good CPU cooler but maybe i should change the cooler for a more better one.  What do you all think?
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Is a 50c temp idle to high for a LCed q9550 OCed at 3.4? 75c to 80c at load??
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Daygn,
 
That is pretty high. I wouldn't even want to see anything above 70c. My Air cooled Q9450 is around 38c idle and about 54c at load. That's with an OC of 3.2 from stock 2.6
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Originally posted by Daygn

Is a 50c temp idle to high for a LCed q9550 OCed at 3.4? 75c to 80c at load??


oh ya . thats deffinatly to high. my 9650 idles at 29c at 3.6ghz. load i max out around 59c. you may wanna check to see if your voltages are set to high, lower them and your temps will drop
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Its not the voltages. What is the config of your LCing setup?
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what type of thermal paist do you recomend? I have some arclic silver 5 but if there is a better one I would rather use that one instead. Also is it better to to appily a bead in the center of the cpu so it spreads when you install the block or put a thin spread on the cpu?
 
 
It is kind of upsetting to spend $4000 to have DS build my pc and when I get it I have to take it apart and do what should have been done and what I paid them to do!! Is there any thing else they dont do that should have been????
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Originally posted by Daygn

what type of thermal paist do you recomend? I have some arclic silver 5 but if there is a better one I would rather use that one instead. Also is it better to to appily a bead in the center of the cpu so it spreads when you install the block or put a thin spread on the cpu?
 

 

It is kind of upsetting to spend $4000 to have DS build my pc and when I get it I have to take it apart and do what should have been done and what I paid them to do!! Is there any thing else they dont do that should have been????


every chip is different, to think paste will drop your temps by 20c is crazy IMO, it sounds like your chip runs warm.

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Hey every mag, post, artical I have ever read about building a pc says to remove any thermal paste/pad from the heatsink/block and clean them with alcohol and reappily cause it is always to thin or not enough to provide a good seal with out holes that trap heat. They go the extra mile everywhere else, why not there??  
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who said they don't?

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Chris did for one when we were trying to fix my raid issue. He laughed after he said it so I thought he was joking. I believe him now.

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Chris told you that DS does not apply the paste properly on their CPU? or am I misunderstanding something?

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He said they did not appily any them selves, not that they do not aooilt it properly
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but like i said I thought it was a joke
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I picked my pc up myself so no worries there but I do remember reading it dries out. Should I spread it on or do the bead and let the block spread it out? I have only done it once and used the bead method
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Hey Alex or DST4ME which do you recommend?
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put a little your self then spread it out making sure its not too thick and covers all of the top surface.

I'm sure Chris was joking, did yours come with the pad or paste?

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I will let you know in a few days when after I get some Artic Silver IMO for the block.
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Well why don't you ask DS if yours got a pad or paste, cause if its paste, I doubt you will see any difference if you do it yourself.

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Do you really think they remember every little thing they do when when they Build a new pc almost everyday. It is not somrthing they would list. Even techs at evga and XFX say I should have lower temps plus all the temps I run OCCT and my temp goes over 80c in the first minute or so. I have seen temps being alot lower at idle/load on similer configs. Im hopeing it will be that simple.
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Originally posted by Daygn

Do you really think they remember every little thing they do when when they Build a new pc almost everyday. It is not somrthing they would list. Even techs at evga and XFX say I should have lower temps plus all the temps I run OCCT and my temp goes over 80c in the first minute or so. I have seen temps being alot lower at idle/load on similer configs. Im hopeing it will be that simple.


your system is running warmer then others, you get no arguments from me there, I totally agree, but I think if you ask them they can tell you what they did.

well I hope this helps you tho I'm not sure it will, but you never know, I hope it does, cause I want you to have a cool system and not a warm one.

good luck, if nothing else, its a good learning experience, I can't wait to see how it all turns out, keep us posted.

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Artic Silver IMO? I google it and arctic silver 5(what i have sitting next to my key boaed) comes up.What is IMO?? also DST4ME are you saying I might just have a bad LCing system installed in my rigg?? I should be running way cooler(like 20c)right like everyone else is or close to it right?

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Well not sure, if everything is nice and tight then its probably your CPU being a hot due to OC.

you got 2 HDDs in raid and one GPU right? and you have OC the GPU and CPU?

your OC on CPU is making it run warm.

IMO = in my opinion

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Originally posted by DST4ME

Well why don't you ask DS if yours got a pad or paste, cause if its paste, I doubt you will see any difference if you do it yourself.
 
 
Also what is the point of trying to ask DS when it took over a  week to get my answer that you gave me about GPU temps. I cant ask If if they dont answer the phone. at least 15+ calls in a week and not one of them answered
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for this type of thing I would just send them a ticket here requesting a call for tech support.

well the truth is that what they used on your pc, only they can answer, not me or any other memeber, but its just an idea, what ever you are comfortable with, I'm more then happy to help when ever I can

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is 44-50C idle LC too high for 9770 OC to 4?
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Originally posted by DST4ME

Well not sure, if everything is nice and tight then its probably your CPU being a hot due to OC.

you got 2 HDDs in raid and one GPU right? and you have OC the GPU and CPU?

your OC on CPU is making it run warm.

IMO = in my opinion

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This is my config also the air coming out of the case feels like I have an air conditioning unit at my feet


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Well not sure, if everything is nice and tight then its probably your CPU being a hot due to OC. you got 2 HDDs in raid and one GPU right? and you have OC the GPU and CPU? your OC on CPU is making it run warm. IMO = in my opinion IMHO = in my humble opinion

 

 


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This is my config also the air coming out of the case feels like I have an air conditioning unit at my feet


boss you got 3 x 280 gtx in there oced? thats is lot of heat.

your cpu is oc, more heat.

I think all the stuff you got in your case is making the temp of it warm.

Originally posted by Rolet

is 44-50C idle LC too high for 9770 OC to 4?


for a qx9770 I think that is good but temp under load are the only ones that count.

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Under load I seen it go at highest 65-68.
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thats damn good for a qx9770 oced to 4.0GHz IMO

@Daygn, why don't you open the case and have a house fan blowing directly into the system, see how your temps do then.

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the day duke installed my evga mobo last month ihad 2 gpu not oced and load temps of 75c in prime95 and last week it went over 80c my third gpu was installed on thursday then I over clocked them. Heat only comes out of thr raideator and from the gpu. Other thenthat my pc feels like ice when you touch it and my feet do to from all of the air movement. the air from the back fan and the top fan are collder then the air going in. also the heat from thr raidiator is hotter then the heat from from my 3 GTX280's. like i said like an ac unit and almost as cold as my cars ac
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hmmm well I would say see what ds says, if it ever gets to you, a dual rad should do better.

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Originally posted by Daygn

Its not the voltages. What is the config of your LCing setup?


Whats to say its not your voltages. Digital Storm had my 3.6ghz vcore at 1.5v . so it could VERY WELL be your voltages. you may wanna check that .

Originally posted by Daygn

Hey every mag, post, artical I have ever read about building a pc says to remove any thermal paste/pad from the heatsink/block and clean them with alcohol and reappily cause it is always to thin or not enough to provide a good seal with out holes that trap heat. They go the extra mile everywhere else, why not there??  



I wouldnt doubt that they used the thermal pad. over thermal paste. thats just my opinion though

Originally posted by Daygn

what type of thermal paist do you recomend? I have some arclic silver 5 but if there is a better one I would rather use that one instead. Also is it better to to appily a bead in the center of the cpu so it spreads when you install the block or put a thin spread on the cpu?
 
 
It is kind of upsetting to spend $4000 to have DS build my pc and when I get it I have to take it apart and do what should have been done and what I paid them to do!! Is there any thing else they dont do that should have been????


Artic Silver is a good one, stick with that . try to re apply and see what your temps drop too. also, take some dust off and blow it thru your Radiator, it could be keepin things a bit warm






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 Its warm...but what counts is under full load......   My temps on air under load  are less than yours at idle...Confused


Which CPU do you have ? at What OC...


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hmmm well I would say see what ds says, if it ever gets to you, a dual rad should do better.
I Know but I am kind of scared of messing with removeing the hoses. would also like a second pump and to move thre resavoure to the out side if the case instead of right next to my gpus
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Its not the voltages. What is the config of your LCing setup?


Whats to say its not your voltages. Digital Storm had my 3.6ghz vcore at 1.5v . so it could VERY WELL be your voltages. you may wanna check that .

Originally posted by Daygn

Hey every mag, post, artical I have ever read about building a pc says to remove any thermal paste/pad from the heatsink/block and clean them with alcohol and reappily cause it is always to thin or not enough to provide a good seal with out holes that trap heat. They go the extra mile everywhere else, why not there??  



I wouldnt doubt that they used the thermal pad. over thermal paste. thats just my opinion though

Originally posted by Daygn

what type of thermal paist do you recomend? I have some arclic silver 5 but if there is a better one I would rather use that one instead. Also is it better to to appily a bead in the center of the cpu so it spreads when you install the block or put a thin spread on the cpu?
 
 
It is kind of upsetting to spend $4000 to have DS build my pc and when I get it I have to take it apart and do what should have been done and what I paid them to do!! Is there any thing else they dont do that should have been????


Artic Silver is a good one, stick with that . try to re apply and see what your temps drop too. also, take some dust off and blow it thru your Radiator, it could be keepin things a bit warm




 
 
They say not to use thermal pads and remove the paste your blocks came with and appily your own.
 
My voltage is 1.475 which is higher then the voltage was set on the XFX board that was in my pc when I took it home and it was even hotter on that board. 
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