Last Question before ordering.

Oh and my dad wants me to consider Mac before ordering. He's got something against everything but Mac for some reason, any thoughts?

Get a PC!

honestly I don't like either, I don't like the 750 from enthusiast 3 and I don't like the x58M from the extereme 2. now don't get confused, I know I said I like the x58 from my last post but the extreme 2 has the micro version of x58 which is why it has the "M" in x58M. the mircor version maxes out at dual sli and can't do any other card or upgrades.

for upgrade reasons if you can go extreme 3.

if upgrades are not important for you then go with extreme 2.

unfortunately I have a problem with all the pre-builds, extreme 3 I think has too big of a psu and I prefer corsair or pc power and cooling for psu.

now why did you dad have a stroke and a heart attack?

Edited by DST4ME - 28 Sep 2009 at 3:06am

lol OK

well just explain to him that this kind of a rig is one that can be updated to in a couple of years, you won't need a new pc, you just spend a little and upgrade it, thus saving lot of money.

also explain to him that if you went and build this for yourself the price difference would be like a couple of hundered dollars and even then you wouldn't have the warranty and such.

macs are not compatible with everything, what if you get some school work that is a software on pc? most stuff these days are pc based not mac.

When you're negotiating with someone (doesn't matter who it is) your perspectives are opposing (or you'd have no reason to negotiate).  Picture yourselves sitting in a room, both on opposite ends of a table in a square room.  What you see is the wall behind your father; what he sees is the wall behind you.  You will see something he does not, and he will see what you cannot.  How do you meet in the middle to help each other understand what the other sees; to find common ground?

Considering your age, motives and your personal financial status, you wouldn't want to sell the concept of having a $2000.00 PC to your father as a gaming platform or something that you can have hours and hours of fun with your friends all the time.  You would want to sell him on the concepts of affordability, practicality, economy, academics and functionality.

Your father needs to know not only these things but, he also wants to know that his son is thinking responsibly and practically in this purchase.  This is one in many moments that you'll have too show dad that his son can be responsible and be accountable for his decisions.  Men are communicators and cater to the logical thinking, most of the time, of other men.  We are people that are born to respect and understand that in other men.  It is how we're designed (wired) before we slurped out of mother's womb.

Show your dad that you can reason this out, and if you still can't get him to see what you see on that wall behind him, still know that he sees his son taking that next step into manhood.  Everytime you communicate with him this way, with intelligence and emotional reserve, he will take you more seriously and respect you in a greater way.      

Edited by EdH63 - 29 Sep 2009 at 9:49am