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Post Date: 2008-04-30

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  Quote Erich Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Le Custom Build
    Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 4:40am
First up, the current set:

Specifications:
Case: Digital Storm 650Si (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 550W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 750i SLI Core 2 Quad (nForce 750i SLI)
Memory: 4GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 1TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 80GB Western Digital (8MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Raid Option: Setup hard drive 1 and hard drive 2 in a Raid 0 Stripe Configuration (Expert)
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9800GTX 512MB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer (Recommended)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 1 (Certified Digital Storm Heat-sink)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: Enhanced Interior Air Flow (Optical Drive & Floppy Cables (Black Cables)
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs
/Manuals)
Overclock Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: Acer 22 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech 2.1 System (Black Edition) (Model R20) (Includes Subwoofer)
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support

That's what I'm looking at. However, I do have some questions about how the thing will work. I'm especially concerned about power supplies, cooling, and the over all internal architecture. I'm trying to build a machine that's somewhere between $2,000-$2,500 and is very comfortable running Age of Conan and a few other high end games. If the costs have to be brought down, then there are certainly things like the hard drive size and the monitor that I'm not too concerned about, so long we are still looking at something beefy. For the most part, I think the memory and the graphics and sound cards are perfect, so it's mainly the few things I mentioned earlier that I wanna talk about.

I've heard many good things about this site, and I do appreciate whatever help you can give me. I do have a fair grasp of the basics, so again, what I'm looking for is something that is powerful on the main things, but where the other components will work well together without something getting fried because I overlooked the power requirements or the temperature levels or whatever else.

Thank you for your help,
Erich.

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  Quote brian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 8:18am
i see one problem with your raid choice. both of those you picked cant go into raid. you should really have the 80gig for your OS and the 1tfor everything else.I would pick stage 2 or 3 for your cooling and get rid of the case lighting. to me i dont like being blinded by a
bright light when im playing a game. lol unless that would be your night light... And i wouldnt get the optional rounded cable...i think you only get one. use that money elsewhere.
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  Quote Bill the Cat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 9:19am
Yeah, what Brian said.... plus:
 
I wouldn't get the 650i case. The 450, 650i, and 750i are all basically the same price. The 650i is the smallest and probably hottest and hardest to work on. Personally, I'd go with the 750i, but I've been told by DSO guys that, strangely, the 450i is coolest, at least temp wise.
 
If you really want a RAID0 setup, I think about a pair of 250s for the RAID and a 500 for a backup and data drive. Unless you do a lot of video "work", a Terabyte is about twice as much space as you could ever need. If you do get that big sucker, ask DSO to divide it up into a couple of partitions.
 
Get Stage II cooling just on general principles.
 
It might just be throwing money away, but I'd be tempted to step up one notch on the power supply.
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  Quote Erich Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 12:46pm
Ok, thank you very much for the fast replies.

Now, is it actually important to have things set in a RAID formation? Assuming I got a 1TB hard drive, would a second hard drive actually warrant the cost, or would it be better to get two 500 gigs? Alternatively, would another combination work even better?

Once again, thank you for your help.
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  Quote Bill the Cat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 2:06pm

A Terabyte disk drive is just rediculous unless you're ripping DVDs to HD and leaving them there forever, or downloading all the porn and MP3s from the Usegroups without any filtering.

If you want to be exotic, get a pair of 200 Gig drives for the RAID0 and a 500 Gig to backup anything that's important on the RAID and to hold "data". Personally, I doubt that the RAID0 is worth the hassle, but I'm not positive. Otherwise, I'd think a 200 Gig boot drive and a 500 Gig secondary drive would be plenty.

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  Quote Erich Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 4:09pm
Sounds good. Something like this, then?

Case: Digital Storm 450Si (Black Aluminum Edition)
Power Supply: 620W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 750i SLI Core 2 Quad (nForce 750i SLI)
Memory: 4GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 250GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: BLU-RAY/DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (Blu-Ray 4x / DVD Writer 18x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9800GTX 512MB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer (Recommended)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes)
Case Lighting: - No Thanks
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)
Overclock Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: Acer 17 inch (Black Edition) (High-Value Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support

Thanks yet again, Bill.
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 4:44pm
I assume you will be doing the overclocking yourself, or dont want overclocking at all.
 
Everything looks alright. Though slight wondering about the blu ray, thats a lot of money, make sure you have a use for it before you get it. Your video card is alright for the monitor you have, though i somewhat question a 17inch..thats kinda tiny =P. But youll do perfect with that card all the way up to say a 22inch. 24 on up id say is where youd start to have to consider SLI. Just wanted to let you know about that. DS says SLi starts to have an impact around 1024x800 rez or somehwere around there, i doubt that seriously. Id actually say more around 1600x1200 is when SLI starts to have a seriously noticable impact.
 
I noticed your selection earlier has 2.1 speakers...why did you remove them in the second build? do you have a set of older ones? Im asking because im wondering the value of having a decently high end sound card (X-fi on up) if youre only gonna use 2.1. If youre using it for other things then just pure speaker sound, then id understand, but if not..id say the sound card wouldnt be needed for only a 2.1 system. 5.1 on up id say hell ya. Thats just my personal opinon of course.
 
Rest looks okay for your budget.
E8500@ 4.03Ghz
XFX 790i Ultra
1000W Corsair HX
2 280 GTX EVGA FTW
4GB OCZ Reaper 1800Mhz
250-80-300GB VR HD
Logitech Z-2300 2.1 Speakers
Asus Xonar 7.1
Hanns-G HG 281D 28" HDMI Monitor
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  Quote Erich Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Apr 2008 at 5:21pm
Blu-Ray, I admit, I'm not too sure about either. I know it's supposedly won the format war, so I hope it'll be worth it in the long run. Of course, if the budget needs trimming, it'll be one of the first things to go.

Concerning the monitor, I picked the 17" because it fit in the budget for that setup. If I downgrade a few things, I'll definitely be looking at the 19" or the 20", depending.

Sound card and speakers are bit of a tossup. I have a fairly old 2.1 system that I'm using right now, along with a decent set of headphones. If there is a noticeable difference using the X-Fi with the headphones, then I will probably be getting that. If not, downgrade. However, I had some problems with onboard sound cards before, which is why I am interested in getting something a little beefier.

I have been discussing things with some friends of mine who are much more knowledgeable than I am, and they all agree that what I've got is a good system, with a few modifications. Once again, thank you all for your help.  
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  Quote Tyler's doppelgänge Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 May 2008 at 10:01am
Originally posted by BluRay.com

"The format offers more than five times the storage capacity of traditional DVDs and can hold up to 25GB on a single-layer disc and 50GB on a dual-layer disc."


Edited by Tyler Lowe - 01 May 2008 at 11:44pm
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