Leave your system on all the time or turn it off?Post Date: 2009-04-23 |
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Maestro
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Topic: Leave your system on all the time or turn it off?Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 7:44am |
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Which do you do? Which is better for your computer?
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Zardoz8719
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 9:21am |
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Always heard that turning something on and off is harder on equip than leaving it on. Then again, (in the real world) the issue of conserving power/bills needs to be taken into consideration. For example...if you use a computer approx 4hr a day...that leaves 20hr/day it's running for absolutely no purpose/reason--how beneficial is that?? Then again, if that same four hours per day is not consecutive...but, spread out over many hours...entailing lots of turning on/off, on/off...you get the picture--is it a different story?? Given there are many variations on this theme...and all days are not alike either...seems difficult to come up with a "standard" answer.
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EdH63
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 10:42am |
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I've always left mine on 24/7. My last rig, which was at the time I built it top of the line, lasted around 5 years before it took a dump and I came here and got my DS rig. The fact that turning your rig on and off is hard on the equipment is not disputable, however, whether it actually shortens the lifespan of them would have to be compared between two identical rigs over time. Even then, every piece of equipment can fail or not in any given time frame.
I leave mine on because of the constant variable that is always true, turninig it off and on, throwing power to the hardware, is going to be more harmful than just letting the rig stay in a state of constant power. Get a very good surge protector. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 11:22am |
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never leave mine on, when not needed. the 18 seconds it takes to be booted up is nothing. Having 5 high end desktops in the house running 24/7 would be murder on the power bill. My top system draws more at idle than most pc's do at full tilt. lol
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EdH63
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 2:49pm |
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Well, his post wasn't addressing power consumption, rather what's better for the computer. But, if you're running multiple rigs then no doubt power consumption would play a factor if in fact that's something the OP is eluding to.
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 2:56pm |
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every component only lasts so long, thats why I shut them down..lol
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EdH63
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 3:01pm |
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My last rig lasted 5 years without a shutdown, except for a power outage every now and then. I know it doesn't mean that he could get the same life expectancy because it really kinda is a crap shoot. But you're right, it's all finite. So it begs the question, what will shorten the life expectancy quickest? Leaving it on, or shutting it down? Many will have different opinions on that and they'll typically come from personal experience, so it becomes a personal preference option.
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Zardoz8719
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 3:05pm |
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Some things deteriorate "over time" (regardless of use)...some with "over use"...and then, there's the things that wern't too good to start with...
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EdH63
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 3:09pm |
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You must be working off your computer just as I am today. We're responding back and forth pretty quickly...lol.
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Sarah
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 3:10pm |
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My PC is always on. In fact, im very bothered by the fact that its ever off. The only time it gets turned off is when I leave on a vacation thats longer then a weekend trip.
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 3:13pm |
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most expensive parts in my rigs have a MTBF rating in hours, so I try to keep the hours down. But it is all what is important to the end user. lol Plus Vista is allways writing crap to the SSD's shortening their lifespan.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 3:27pm |
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mine is always one and everything is fine, some of my PCs have been on pretty much all the time for 6 years or longer.
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LDLD
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 5:49pm |
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would you guys suggest keeping a high end gaming rig on all the time? i wouldnt mind but it's noisy
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 6:10pm |
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I keep mine on high-ends an low ends, to begin with I can't fold when the PC is off, there is no computer around me that is not on, laptop, dell, FNW, etc etc, they are all on and folding (for some trying)
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Zurginator
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 6:20pm |
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I turn mine off. To much light to leave on.
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Zardoz8719
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 7:48pm |
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Your computers...your electricity...their "Folding"...tis a noble jesture on your part--and that's no joke.
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EdH63
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 10:28pm |
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It's all personal preference. If it's too noisy, then don't leave it on. Asking someone what to do and knowing what bothers you personally about leaving it on is like asking someone what's blue and smells like red paint? What's the answer? Blue paint. Well duh. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit direct, but if you know it's too noisy then is asking someone that question based on it being noisy going to give you an answer that would be different than the answer you already know? Every set-up is different. I have 4/120mm fans plus I have my GPU fan cranked to 100%, so it speaks to me. It's really not as bad as I thought it would be, but it does talk. However, my rig is in my home office in front of my house and I keep my doors closed. The sound is moot because it's closed off from the rest of the house so keeping mine on isn't an issue. That's not necessarily why I keep my rig on 24/7, but the sound factor isn't an issue with me. It will boil down to each person's personal situation and their personal belief. If you're rig is sleeping with you in the same room, you may very well have a noise problem. In that case shutting it down when not using it or sleeping may have to be part of the equation when making the decison. But I can't really see asking someone else helping you in the noise category. ![]() |
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VIDAR
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Posted: 23 Apr 2009 at 11:14pm |
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I dont know if its good or bad. I turn mine off due to the fact I have 2 8800GTX's goin. It just doesnt make sense to burn all that juice for nuthin. IMO
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Hammer
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 11:14am |
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Well, another thing to consider is pump life for all you LCers out there. These things have a very finite life span and leaving your comp on 24/7 will drastically eat into this. Now I know that replacing a simple pump is not a pratice in rocket science and not that expensive, BUT having your pump fail and not realize it could potentially overheat and cause damage to your hardware. Plus if you're like me and have a Cool-it LC device, it's all one piece of hardware...so there is no simple replacement of a pump.
But as for me, I always turn my computer off at night. During the day if I know I'm not going to use it for a while I'll just hibernate/sleep mode it. There's also the fan life and dust aspect. Fans die and I'm pretty sure they don't care about start ups. And as long as those fans run...they're throwing dust into your case. Not really a power/life spam issue...but cleaning can be a consideration too.
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Zardoz8719
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 11:58am |
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Wow, that sounds like a real "parent" kinda answer...where's the love man? Wasn't it Mary Poppins that said "a little bit of love (or was it sympathy) helps the medicine go down"? Poor guy was just making conversation...and you hit him with a cold-prickly...instead of a "warm-fuzzy".
Of course, you're right...we all know that...but, it's your "presentation"...bedside-manner if you will...that makes all the difference--right?
By the way...I'm not serious...I found your answer refreshing. Let's face it, there's a lot less stress in making decisions if you rely on polls/group-think.
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Hammer
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 2:42pm |
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"a spoon full of sugar"...there's no love or sympathy here!
Only evil, indepth computer hardware analysis and bunnies.
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Zardoz8719
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 3:41pm |
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Ah, yes...knew somebody would have the "correct" answer... Now ya know I just guessed on the first two choices...
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EdH63
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 4:00pm |
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You're kidding me. I think you are serious to a degree. Don't get too wrapped up in the "feelings". I think you can pull a number of responses from DST4ME and see that he is point blank in many of his assessments and responses. If you "want" to take it personally I guess you could, however, when you base your question on something as subjective as sound, and then you say "I wouldn't mind but it's noisy", as if having someone make your mind up for you about how noisy it would be in your room with you, doesn't quite make sense. Do you think it does? Helping someone come to the conclusion on there own that one cannot make that choice for you can be stated in many different ways, I guess. As you can see I did apologize if my approach was a bit direct, so it becomes about using common sense to interpret the answer and understanding your own question. If indeed the question was simply asked incorrectly and the OP intended to mean something else, then I'm assuming he would post up and correct himself. I, as anyone could only respond according to the information given in the post. Keep in mind, the written word can be hard to discern and it can be difficult to interpret inflection. My response was not designed to offend the OP, rather bring a dull point to mind that some questions will have to be answered by you. It's all good. Edited by EdH63 - 27 Apr 2009 at 4:22pm |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 4:55pm |
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pump change is nothing, the system is under warranty, one of those are a reason to turn off my PC, if pump fails, temps go up PC shuts down, no damage, my 2 cents.
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MyNameisBrian
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 8:14pm |
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I usually just have my computer go to standby mode or whatever... :P
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DST4ME
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 8:31pm |
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my monitor goes to sleep, does that count?
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Zardoz8719
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 9:19pm |
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@ EdH63
Wow, that sounds like a real "parent" kinda answer...where's the love man? Wasn't it Mary Poppins that said "a little bit of love (or was it sympathy) helps the medicine go down"? Poor guy was just making conversation...and you hit him with a cold-prickly...instead of a "warm-fuzzy".
Of course, you're right...we all know that...but, it's your "presentation"...bedside-manner if you will...that makes all the difference--right?
By the way...I'm not serious...I found your answer refreshing. Let's face it, there's a lot less stress in making decisions if you rely on polls/group-think.
You're kidding me. I think you are serious to a degree. Don't get too wrapped up in the "feelings". I think you can pull a number of responses from DST4ME and see that he is point blank in many of his assessments and responses. If you "want" to take it personally I guess you could, however, when you base your question on something as subjective as sound, and then you say "I wouldn't mind but it's noisy", as if having someone make your mind up for you about how noisy it would be in your room with you, doesn't quite make sense. Do you think it does? Helping someone come to the conclusion on there own that one cannot make that choice for you can be stated in many different ways, I guess. As you can see I did apologize if my approach was a bit direct, so it becomes about using common sense to interpret the answer and understanding your own question. If indeed the question was simply asked incorrectly and the OP intended to mean something else, then I'm assuming he would post up and correct himself. I, as anyone could only respond according to the information given in the post. Keep in mind, the written word can be hard to discern and it can be difficult to interpret inflection. My response was not designed to offend the OP, rather bring a dull point to mind that some questions will have to be answered by you. It's all good. @ EdH63... If I have offended...I apologize...it was not my intention. My attempt at humor missed the mark if you felt otherwise. I had hoped my last line (above) "By the way, I'm not serious...I found your answer refreshing etc...would clarify--but, maybe not. And, the last few words..."less stress in making decisions if you rely on polls/group-think"...was my way of confirming/validating (our mutual opinion) that people need to make their own decisions...I wrote it that way so as not to belittle the original post--as if to infer they lacked intelligence/initiative...which was also not my intention. As far as a comparison between you and DST4ME for straightforwardness--I'd have to say he wins. Perhaps you've seen one of my posts (to him) where I say he's "a sentinel at the gate, and a junkyard dawg for all things DS". I'm sure there are some who don't appreciate his bluntness...I'm not one of them. DST4ME reminds me of vinyard owners who have neighboring owners cut their vines--because they would be too timid when it comes to cutting their own vines. When it comes to computer configurations, DST tells it the way he sees it--things are black and white...there arn't many shades of gray. He's for "power", against waste, and genuinely wants you to get your money's worth. I can't fault him for that--when you go to a doctor you want one that cuts straight you arn't too interested in his manners.
You ended your post with "it's all good"...I hope so.
Again...sorry for any untended slight...and, I really enjoyed our conversations...
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EdH63
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Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 11:02pm |
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Yeah, it's good. No worries and I appreciate your follow-up with me on that. I had a feeling it was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
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