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    Posted: 07 Jan 2010 at 10:41am
Hello

I am getting the Corsair Obsidian 800D computer case.
But I need a liquid cooling set, or at least I want the parts for it.
Parts I want to be liquid cooled:

1 - CPU 920 i7 1366 socket
2 - ATI HD 5870 Sapphire

I want the tubes to be white. Can someone help me to get it like the picture of the Hailstorm case in the Black O.P.S division? I mean, it is too late to send it to DS, cause I have the parts all at home. And I do not want to send them to DS, I want to do it by myself (in the right way of course).

Please help. Give me links and important to give a list of all the parts, either a complete kit or links to all the parts.

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if you have never LCed before then have DS LC your system so you can get a good idea on how things are setup.

to get a good LC system you have lot of decisions to make.

what kind of performance are you trying to get out of it, you gonna push it as far as you can? keep in mind there is so far you can push a 920.

high cfm rads or low cfm rads?

for rads normally a feser(low cfm) or blackice gtx (high cfm) will due, but you need to see what size you need.

cpu WB can be swiftech xt, gpu WB can be EK, they make great WB.

pump can be laning or swiftech.

tygon tubes are good, you can get tubes in whatever color you like.

etc etc.

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I have the 800D chassis like u do. Should I get a triple fan radiator? Can I make DS send me the whole set? Cause I have the parts here. As I allready said. So what you are saying that they should do it for me? How? The parts are here. In hungary.
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you got your pc already? search the net find a good walkt thru for building LC system, your first time its gonna be a pain, learning pains, but once you get the idea, then it will be easy from then on.

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Is this reservoar/pump ok?
Link:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=367&products_id=25473
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Yes I have my pc already.
All I need is the cooling.
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no

CPU WB

pump

reservoir

rads (low cfm)

GPU WB-s

you need to decide on rad size for your cpu and rad size for your gpu, you gonna setup basically a dual setup which means that cpu gets its own LC systme (pump/rad/res) and the gpus will get their own separate system (pump/rad/res)

you need to decide on fans, you want high flow with low cfm for the rad listed.

then you got to pic the fittings tubes and etc.

I have one 3triple rad for cpu inside the case and one triple rad for my 4 gpus outside the case.



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OK thank you. The only thing added to that is I need fittings for all the WB?
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you need fittings you need clamps, find a good walk thru and it should all be listed for you. xtremesystems.org should have some good ones.

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Can you give me a complete list with the stuff I need?
I want the 920 and the ATI HD 5870 watercooled.
Can you give me a list and with the price, like total price? So If I could just order exactly those parts. I do not need the best parts. Just so it is better than good air cooling.
Btw, I have the obsidian like u, so a triple radiator in the top would be perfect. But the other stuff, clamps and fittings...
Like what I mean is, I could just order exactly what you gave me on the list. Maybe from a webpage that ships to Hungary as well?
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I could not help you there boss, don't know who ships there, I pretty much listed everything for you, as I said, find a walk thru first, then make sure you understand what you are doing, then pick your parts in your head, and double check they fit and work on paper, then once you are sure you got all the right stuff and you know exactly what to do when you get it, then order the stuff and do it.

I don't feel comfortable telling people to get stuff that they don't know what to do with, there are just something I don't feel comfortable doing, helping people push their oc over the net for example is another one. If something goes wrong then I feel bad for wasting people's money and etc, so I just don't do it. I rather you have a good idea of what you gonna be doing first, by the time you figure that out, tubes and fittings will be real easy for you to figure out.

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So if I had bought a tube with an ID of 1/2 inch, and OD of 3/4 inch. What sizes had the clamps and fittings to be?
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your fittings should be able to fit an ID of 1/2 and your clamps should be able to fit OD of 3/4.

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I do not understand what you just wrote sry. :S
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what air cooler are you currently using, Ambidex?
 
if your present air cooler is working fine, i don't see why you would want liquid cooling .. unless if it's just for the aesthetics or if it's really hot in your location.
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Originally posted by Ambidex

Can you give me a complete list with the stuff I need?
I want the 920 and the ATI HD 5870 watercooled.
Can you give me a list and with the price, like total price? So If I could just order exactly those parts. I do not need the best parts. Just so it is better than good air cooling.
Btw, I have the obsidian like u, so a triple radiator in the top would be perfect. But the other stuff, clamps and fittings...
Like what I mean is, I could just order exactly what you gave me on the list. Maybe from a webpage that ships to Hungary as well?
 
visit frozencpu.com .. they deliver internationally .. and ..
 
 
examine the pdf file. it shows the basics of how-to.
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Originally posted by Ambidex

I do not understand what you just wrote sry. :S
 
 
What does 1/2" ID, 3/8" ID or 1/4" ID mean?

I.D. stands for Inner Diameter. There are 3 standard measurements for a standard piece of tubing. Obviously there is the Length, but there is also the Inner Diameter and Outer Diameter.

The Outer Diameter is a measurement from the outside wall of the tubing, across the central axis of the tubing to the opposite outside wall. Basically look at the tubing end on, set a ruler on top of it, and measure the tube at its largest point. This measurement is less advertised and is only useful to you if you are using a system that has compression fittings or quick-connect fittings. Since the fittings fit overtop of the tubing, you need to know the outer diameter of the tubing.

The Inner Diameter is a measurement from the inside wall of the tubing, across the central axis of the tubing to the opposite inside wall. Basically look at the tubing end on, set a ruler on top of it, and measure the inner hole of the tub at its largest point. This measurement is extremely useful since almost all fittings have a barb that goes inside of the tubing. If the tubing is to large, the barb won't seal and leaks will be abundant. If the tubing is too small, it will be very difficult to fit it over the barb.

Note: All Innovatek products actually use 8 mm Inner Diameter tubing. This size is very close to 1/4" (6 mm) Inner Diameter tubing, so 1/4" tubing will fit over Innovatek barbs.
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liquid cooling is a must if you are pushing the overclock on the CPU or GPU.
Liquid cooling a CPU and a GPU on one loop is not a good idea unless it is a very powerful loop, and you are not going to get a very good loop out of a HAF case without adding radiators to the outside of the case... looks like crap if you ask me.
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it was just a quick find. i didn't recommend those products.
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IS it ok with double loop if I use 1xfan radiators? Like 2x 1xfans radiators.
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you need bigger rads, a dual or triple for cpu and a dual or triple as justin said for gpu.

a dual rad will need 2 fans, tri rad will need 3 fans.

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unless you want to do a push/pull setup. lol

I can create a killer water cooling parts list, but I don't know if you have the knowledge to use all the parts to the fullest extent? A great pack of parts is only 1/2 the problem, knowing how to use them is the other.
 
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lol I wanted push pull on my rig but there isn't enough room, not that big of a deal anyways.

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what? push/pull with shrouds is the only way to go... you just need lots O room.
I can't wait to see your results, but man it is a long time coming..But you know this.. lol
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ya short in room, can't wait to see it either

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Well. I ordered the Corsair Obsidian 800D. I know from pictures and also DST4ME told me that a triple radiator will fit in the top of the case. However, an additional radiator (as you said it has to be at least a 2xfan space one) I do not see how I can make it fit, cause I do not like it when they put the radiators on the outside! :D
Looks cheap! :)

Justin.Kerr:
Please show me the list of stuff you talked about. I am reading about liquid cooling every day. Watching videos about it and also reading articles. I usually do stuff right when I want it right, it's just about time for reading and studying the stuff.

So yes, please show me the list of the kickass system, and btw, I think push/pull sounds nice. Fan in front and behind the radiator.
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