Liquid cooling leak soaks computer

yes you have to pay shipping but that is all, btw the warranty is 3 years how did you endup with 1 year?

this is not normal just so you know.

yup well things go wrong from time to time, that is why we get the warranty and love the fact that DS gives us 3 year warranty so we are covered in such cases.

the answer to its is nope. i mean thinking about it u cant really create game for em till their up and running so once they're out we'll start seing games for em in like 3 years. THats probably how long it'll take to use 295's in quad sli to its full potential 3 years

wow the amount of false info here is amazing, so LC is does not help oc and temps ha?

and games don't take advantage of quad core either?



so then how is the above chart showing a huge difference between i7 quad core and the e8400 dual core?

this forum is beginning to be full of misinfo lately.

how about instead of sharing our opinions, we share actuall facts and not what we prefer.

does the science that says liquid dissipates heat better then air just goes out the window?


Edited by DST4ME - 07 Jun 2009 at 1:28pm

dood what is with you and this false info hoshposh. its a forun were here stating OPINONS none of us are COmputer authorities - DS techs  not even u. Mayber some things said arent 100% correct. I dont think you even read ppls entire post u see something and litteraly jump down ppls throats. ppl ask for opinons so they give them if their not entirely correct or misinfo you can always ask DS the ppl who are Certified to do so. i mean Jesus none of us are jumping down your throat everytime u post something questionable

@harleyman

Thanks for the kind offer to help, but I’ll likely just send it to DS in case a component needs to be outright replaced.

 

My system arrived from DS with a 3.47 overclock, and I’ve regularly seen higher on these forums for an i7 chip on air. So, I have to agree with your philosophy in retrospect – liquid looks “neat”, but from everything I’ve read recently, it seems to have a lot less influence on your ability to achieve a reasonable overclock than does the quality of the individual chip itself.

 

I’m not unhappy with the overclocking on my machine, but I think I’ve learned my lesson. Shipping the system back and forth to DS to fix the damage and the leaks won’t be a small expense… I’ll opt for air the next time around all things considered!

 

I’m in NC (Raleigh) myself as of about 4 months ago – moved here from New York. I’ve got to say, the folks here genuinely are friendlier. Maybe there’s something to that southern hospitality thing after all.

 

@widdlecat

I’ve tried cleaning it a bit to mop up the worst of it (partly so more blue goo doesn’t leak on the carpet!) – been getting “F6” and “F3” post code errors. Those aren’t defined in the EVGA manual, but from reading EVGA forums it likely has something to do with the video card – which has been sponging up the drips.

Edited by CJ1984 - 06 Jun 2009 at 2:21pm

sigh whatever dood. i only respond 2 u after u say i've been giveing out bad info constantly and suggesting bad builds to ppl like the last thread u accused me of wasting some1s money. How am i wasting some1s money its his not mine its not like i have his money and bought a system for him lawl. i gave my opinon and i think the 1st amendment gurantees my freedom of speech i might add. FOr example i told the guy u might as well get 2000 mhz memory of 12 gigs of 1333 memory. u stated im prone to waste his cash and 2000 mhz memory has no performance diffrence which is false being able to read/write 5 gb/sec faster is definatley a diffrence las time i checked. i dont think corsair and other would waste their money developing and selling faster memory they know no1 would get b/c 1333 mhz memory was the absolute best out there( not to mention 2 other speed were devloped beftore 2000). so ive never jumped down your throat only defending myself from your accusations. you're the 1 acting like the majority of us are mindless zombies who sole purpose in life is to give others bad info and spend all their money on 6 grand computers that we think would be funny for them 2 have. ONce again we state our Opinons not facts so yes some of it wouldn't be entirely correct especially since most say this is what i THINK not what i KNOW, thanks

Originally posted by harleyman It does happen from time to time..You can fix it your self actually..Not a big fix by any means....   I never recomemd water cooling for any computer just for an OC...I tried to turn folks away from it till I just gave up argueing about it..   I am of the belief that it is NOT needed for a midly OCed machine.It generally will not lower temps, and sometimes gives problems.     Most machines can and will OC very high and stable on air...   You do NOT get a higher or more stable OC with water..It was developed for EXTREME OCers that really push the limits..And those extreme OCers dom NOT leave their machines OCed like that for geneal everyday use.Just bragging rights.   Those limits are not going from ...Lets say   2.5  to  3.4  on a dual core chip   2.8  to  3.8  on a good quad chip   2.8  to  4.0 on a good i7 chip       All that can easily  be done all day on air..And very cool too I might add...       BTW...If you live near me I will be happy to fix it for you..I'm in North Carolina

yea but watercooling loops look so coooool
:D

correction, user said:

Originally posted by insignia Here is my config.   My computer will be mainly used for hardcore gaming.

to this user you recommended 2000MHz ram.

so not body is putting words in anybody's mouth.

as for the rest I'm not wasting my time, I already explained, the reader can come to their own conclusions.

and I posted what the conclusion of the article was, their conclusion included all their test, quotes and etc, and at the end their conclusion was, that no matter what kind of a system you have their conclusion is that the difference between 1333MHz ram and 2000MHz ram is trivial and can't be justified.

their words, not mine

on top of that they recommended that if you are gonna spend that much money for that little performace then do so in a system with... well let me quote again:

If you can spend a thousand USD on a processor, 400 USD on a Rampage II Extreme motherboard and 800 USD on GPUs, you surely will spend this kind of money on 2000 MHz CAS7 Blade DDR3 memory.

so in short they are recommending it for a high-end system with a $1000 CPU (975, 965), $400 mobo(rampage, classified), $800 GPU, (sli 275, 285, 295).

and if you look around the forum you will see for people who want to go with i7 965, I have recommended the 2000MHz ram, but not to people who just want a gaming system like the member "insignia" whom I quoted at the top of this post.

Edited by DST4ME - 06 Jun 2009 at 3:39pm

My pleasure you can see why I get a little ticked when I see false info being passed around, if I didn't mention it, you would have left here with misinformation.

OK the difference is not known unless we take your system and remove LC and put it on air. like I said if your load temps are too high on air then you won't even get the current OC you have.

what are you load temps now? (temps after playing games for an hour)

as for apparent risk, there is no apparent risk, be careful who you believe around here, take a look at the forum and see of all LC people how many have the same complaint, you will see that out of thousands you are probably the 3rd or 4th person.(not counting mishandling by shipping), so there is no apparent risk, otherwise DS would lose lot of money paying for shipping back to you and spending time fixing LC system all the time, but no such thing is happening, and there is no apparent risk, I mean if out of every lets say 5000 systems one leaks, would you call that apparent? I don't.

I have been here over a year and I don't recall many people having this problem.

but I can understand you having a bad taste in your mouth, I'm sorry this happened but please understand its not normal, just think, if you were one of the guys that has a high OC on LC with much better load temps then guys on air, you would be thinking differently, so don't' let this one instance give you the wrong idea.

Edited by DST4ME - 06 Jun 2009 at 3:27pm

thats the problem, the difference between 2000MHz and 1333MHz ram is hundreds of dollars, and to me and the user that does matter, tho obviously to you the user's money does not matter, that the difference. telling user insignia to spend hundreds of dollars on ram that he wont' see no performance gain from is a big deal. which is why I speak out, if it was not a big deal you wouldn't hear me say sh*t.

but ya inferno23 we agree that DS is a great builder for sure

Edited by DST4ME - 06 Jun 2009 at 4:02pm

Originally posted by Alex @CJ1984, sorry to hear about that leak. That's the first time I heard of one in ages on a new system. We are going to have to re-build the unit and analyze the leak. If it was because of the unit was built from us, we will re-fund you any shipping costs you have paid.

Did I mention how much we love DS, and things like this is one of them you won't get this kind of customer service any place else

@Alex

Edited by CJ1984 - 06 Jun 2009 at 4:42pm

Originally posted by harleyman   HeyFrom West Virginia of all places...

the chart shows system being the same sli or not the difference is that the quad core is doing 50% better then the dual core.

the chart is not a synthetic benchmark its a real life performance of fps in games, as clearly shown the dual core is getting 50 fps across the board while the quad core is getting 50% more fps in the game, thats actual game play.

lol if games don't utilize all cores then where the heck is the 50% extra performance coming from? both systems have similar setup, both are using Tri sli 280, both using 1333mhz ram, both have similar setup, so if its not the cores, then what magic is producing 50% more performance?

also when you say don't utilize then what do you mean?

and let me remind you, you said:

Originally posted by widdlecat but most games still can't utilise more than 2 cores and the majority are still running on a single core

correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like not only are you saying that games don't really use/utilize quad core but you are inferring that most games are running on one core.

BTW its not my chart so I can't be full of sh*t, don't hate the messenger, I'm just pointing out the facts based on quality real life performance show by guru3d, and just about any other site.

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as for 1600MHz being best ram:

I don't know why you guys keep on insisting that ram or its timing make a big difference in games they don't:




the above show that same speed ram with the same cpu but different timing has little difference if any.


below you see how little difference ram speed makes in games:


Crysis Warhead DX10:



Far Cry 2:


above charts show the 2000Mhz with better timing and of course its faster then the 1600MHz ram, still the difference between the 2 are trivial.

however if you have the money nothing wrong with a good pair of 1600MHz ram with good timings, it won't make much of a difference but if you have the money nothing wrong with it.

the charts point to facts, site like guru3d are quality sites, you want to go by what your perception of performance is go ahead, rest of us like to see facts from actual tests and not just one person's perception.

Edited by DST4ME - 07 Jun 2009 at 1:34pm

@Bill the Cat I love to but, most of the charts I have are saved while I was surfing during my free time, so I don't have link, I have the chart, however most of my charts come from guru3d which is a reputable site.

the 2 last ram charts above are actually from guru3d also.

but I'm not saying anything new here as far quad core vs dual core in gaming, tyler and skyr both have posts regarding this issue in the forum, since we all discussed this already and they agreed also, as far as I remember.

why the $ in my name?

Edited by DST4ME - 07 Jun 2009 at 1:39pm

lol I didn't mind it either way, I was just wondering, since it reminds me of when I do m$

@ bill I went back and looked for the link for the ram article its here

Edited by DST4ME - 07 Jun 2009 at 2:13pm