Liquid CoolingPost Date: 2008-03-26 |
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dawgs4ever
Newbie Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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Topic: Liquid Cooling Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 6:28pm |
Other than price, are there any other drawbacks to liquid cooling? Do you need to change the liquid or are there any other maintenance requirements associated with liquid cooling?
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Alex
Admin Group Digital Storm Supervisor Joined: 04 Jun 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 16314 |
Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 8:13pm |
Nope, no maintenance other than checking for liquid evaporation after a few years. There is an internal reservoir tank which holds extra liquid. If you run low, just give us a call and we will take care of you. Liquid cooling has become very mainstream and there are hardly any concerns behind using it.
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SunfighterLC
DS Veteran Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1527 |
Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 8:16pm |
What do you do to check the level in the reservoir? Is it like see though and you can just see that its low, or is it something where you gotta open a lid and check in there?
Ive been sorta curious about this myself...because living in arkansas, the late summers get pretty brutal and even with air conditioning this room isnt the coolest thing around. 80-85 degress usually, mostly thanks to the massive amounts of electronics i have in this room.
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widdlecat
DS Veteran Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 840 |
Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 11:48pm |
Has liquid cooling really come this far?
No maintenance? Isn't there any concerns with condensation still? What
about leakage possibilities? I ask this because I'm considering having
my next DSO pc overclocked and I know good cooling will enable the best
results.
d00d! Are you running vacuum tube amplifiers??? I know that's the only time my room has gotten that hot! |
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Weasel
Newbie Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2008 at 10:24am |
Since a few months ago I also have been interested in water cooling. The only drawbacks for me are price and worry of problems, but with as simple and some liquid cooling systems are becoming these days it's just hook up and go. Still looks like I won't be getting a liquid cooling system any time soon, but it will be good to look forward to. Thank you SunfighterLC for giving me the assurance that probably the hottest my CPU has ever gotten would be 116 degrees (Fahrenheit) so that would be like 46.6 degrees Celsius, but I'm also using an old P4 3.0 GHz with stock cooling (and I think no thermal paste). That was in the hot days of summer and doesn’t normally reach that high. I have had it reach about 116 degrees in the middle of winter only because I have the heater blowing heat in front of the intake fans (stupid me) but to fix that just move the heater and problem solved...lol P.S. You may also know me from the Configuration Discussion as "Somebody". Edited by Weasel - 28 Mar 2008 at 10:36am |
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SunfighterLC
DS Veteran Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1527 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2008 at 7:13pm |
Hey now, actually arkansas IS full of complete idiots. Im not a native, I moved down here about 3 years ago from Michigan. =P.
and to answer widdle, its a "bonus" room upstairs, in fact its the only upstairs in my house, its surrounded on all sides by empty attic space, and it basically comes with no insulation around it, and there is only 1 air duct to it even though its a fairly large room. If youve ever been in an attic of a house during summer youll know damn hot it gets up there, most that heat transfers into that room as well. And of course the electronics cook it even worse. Im thinking of maybe just keeping this new DS computer downstairs out of that hell hole.
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Weasel
Newbie Joined: 28 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
Quote Reply Posted: 29 Mar 2008 at 9:11am |
Nooo!!!
Well, I thought there was hope... I'm not native either, lol, so i can't say much.
And yes, Widdle, attics in the supper get extremly hot in the summer.
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ed1371
Groupie Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 350 |
Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 2008 at 2:16am |
To all:
Liquid cooling has been pretty hands off for quite a while now. The majority of folks are still very leary of using it though because, well, hello, its not normal to mix electronics and fluid. liquid cooling is safe and virtually maintenance free. Every once in a while check your fluid level (and yes, the resovoir is clear so you can see it) Even if you somehow had a leak, the fluid is non conductive so you wont kill components. Before getting my DS system I had already built puters with liquid cooling. After getting my rig, I can say they know thier stuff... it was done VERY well and you wont be dissapointed |
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Silverstone TJ-10
INTEL 4790K 16 gigs ddr3 ssd and such liquid cooled cpu 2080 RTX Super |
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Joker3
Newbie Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |
Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 2008 at 6:38pm |
do you have to spend 649$ on liquid cooling to get cooling for your cpu and gpu or can you spend less for the more cheaper liquid cooling set up?
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Dashuu
Guest Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 407 |
Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 2008 at 6:55pm |
Just my opinion on the liquid cooling system we use.
The liquid we use for liquid cooling isn't even really conductive. I mean, it is in the sense that all liquid is, but I've seen this stuff drip onto an unprotected motherboard while in operation and cause no damage. The stuff won't fry out a system or anything just by leaking. The stuff we use is an oil that was invented for the purpose of liquid cooling a PC about two years ago, if I recall. (Fluid HP +) It's relatively maintenance free. You only have to add more fluid, provided there isn't a problem. However, liquid cooling does kind of require that you are comfortable using it. As you will have to drain the fluid for troublshooting purposes if there is a problem. For instance, a person with two or three video cards in SLI. A card goes bad. Now you have to find out which one by running each card in the top slot to see which one fails to POST (or what have you). With triple SLI, you may already have a problem. Maybe your tubes won't reach, so you have to unhook a card. At this point you would have to empty out your liquid cooling, and then re-fill it to test the card. (Or put back on an AIR cooling block). When it comes to replacing or upgrading any hardware, you will obviously have to know how to remove and replace the liquid cooling. Or have us at DS do it for you. So over all, our liquid cooling is safe, reliable, and maintenance free. But I still recommend it for enthusiasts. Just because you'll have to deal with the liquid cooling when you have to do any other form of in depth troubleshooting or upgrading. Unless of course you have the time to send it to us. We really don't mind doing upgrades or service. I'm just keeping the average customer's time restraints in mind. |
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Kain
Groupie Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 78 |
Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 2008 at 9:04am |
To throw a wrench in this... I have my DS machine coming in the mail within the next week or so. I opted not to get liquid cooling because of recommendations that Stage 3 cooling should do the job just fine... AND more importantly because I want to upgrade the graphics cards down the road and that's really where liquid cooling doesn't pay off as much as air...too hard to do it yourself when you upgrade the graphics cards, etc.??? |
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Tyler Lowe
Newbie Joined: 14 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 2008 at 10:28am |
An excerpt from Dave's post above:
The portions in bold represent the downsides to liquid cooling. These were precisely the reasons behind my suggestion to go with stage 3 air cooling. |
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