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Muggz
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Topic: Looking for a review on the system I built. Posted: 08 May 2010 at 4:51pm |
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Not sure what case is best, I stuck with the one it started, if you think I should, tell me, it's the hailstorm.
Should I get liquid cooling? If so, which type- cpu only, cpu+gfx cards, cpu+gfx+chipset? 404545 is the ticket number. Thanks. |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 4:56pm | |
Specifications: Chassis Model: Digital Storm HailStorm (Black OPS Edition) Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 960 3.2GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: !SALE: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 2000MHz GTX-8 Digital Storm Certified Extreme Performance (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested Power Supply: 1200W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Extreme Performance) (Model: SSDSA2MH160G2R5) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVDąR/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards H20 Tube Color:Green Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Xtra Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty Thought that would make it easier. oh i'm not sure what type of monitor yet...but I want something bigger than my current 19", like a 24" monitor maybe and i want to run max settings and get super high fps. Hard core gaming, plans to play new dx 11 games and anything that will come out for a few years easy. |
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Cretae
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 5:40pm | |
We need to know what you're going to use the system for, and what monitor res you're going to use.
For starters, though, the 960 is a total waste. The 920 is the same chip, and will OC exactly the same. For gaming, you won't need a stage 2 OC, but I wouldn't pay $199 for it when you can get to 3.7, 3.8, 3.9 for free. No one ever advises a video OC, especially an SLI setup. Your eye can't see any difference.
That's all I got until we know more. Like the Intel 160.
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Raif
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 6:03pm | |
whast your resolution
whats your budget whats your use cretae is right on all accounts. once we know mroe we can design a kick butt rig for you. keep in mind that that the 480 creates huge amount of heat so choosing sli with a gpu lc was a wise move but i would not still oc the gpu... we are only talking 5%-7% which is only a few fps. Edited by Raif - 08 May 2010 at 6:05pm |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 6:45pm | |
Hey. To answer the questions. I think I will go with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009165 which is a 27'' monitor, the resolution is 2048 x 1152
Budget...I don't really know. The lower the better of course, but don't really want to go past 6k including that $450 bucks off or whatever deal. As I said earlier, use = hardcore gaming, current and in the future, the new dx 11 games to come out later. I want it to last a long time so I'm getting the technology now. so the 960 is a waste and it OC the exact same as the one at 2.66ghz? Are you positive about that? I really don't want something slow in the processor as a couple games I play are known as CPU heavy and not that taxing on the video cards. I can take off the OC video card, just it was free, so I said why not. |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 6:58pm | |
for CPU get the 920, the exact same chip as the 960, just overclocked higher from the factory. keep the OC on the video card, biggest gain in performance you can do, for free. better off dropping the 960 CPU, and the money you save get the classified motherboard.
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 8:12pm | |
btw, why are prices so high, like on newegg, the 980x i7 is 1050 bucks. But on here it's like 1400-1500. :-/
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 8:57pm | |
What kind of upkeep is required for water cooling? With air, all you have to do is get the dust out every now and then...Do I have to mess with the water, ect? is it easy for someone who has no experience?
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:11pm | |
After thinking about, the resolution would probably be 1920 x 1080
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Raif
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 9:40pm | |
LC maintenance:
check to make sure it is flowing properly every once and a while check levels every once and while refill reservoirs as needed flush entire system every 3 years. plus you still have to do all the air maintenance from what i hear maintenance is very easy. and you can ask ds what fluid they use so u can buy a bottle ur self or have a extra one shipped with the computer. don't worry LC fluids are non conductive. big resolutions require deep pockets, a ips panel is expensive (better picture quality then tn) a sure give away to a ips panel is identical ht/vrt viewing angels 170+. then you need the gpus to power it... now depends on the frame rate you want depends on how many you need. dell has a great line of montors (ips) u2410 (1920 x 1200)is a perfect size for most people depending on viewing distance. you really design a computer around a monitor not the other way around. this monitor will do very well with 2x 480 and can run almost every game near 60 fps at max settings now for the oc on the gpus depends on who you talk too. people liek justin who avid benchmarkers and overclockers say go for it, while others like dst4me say don't. oc increases heat production and lowers lifespan. on a cpu a oc will last u 7 years on a gpu i do not know. now one thing you have to consider already is that the 480's create large amounts of heat and when u put em in sli... it gets way hotter so i wouldn't recommend a gpu overclock. if you were on a amd gpu i would say go for it since they don't make a lot of heat. Edited by Raif - 08 May 2010 at 9:41pm |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 10:23pm | |
Should I get the liquid cooling on the sli 480s? I hear they run very hot. I like that dell, but it may be a tad expensive, I might go TN but I think I want something with that resolution. 1920 x 1200 is perfect. I'll look around, but what changes would you say for that.
So far I have : take off OC on video card Change CPU to 920 and still oc it to same amount. Get the classified mobo. |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 10:30pm | |
the build you posted had the GPU's liquid cooled..
you will regret not overclocking the GPU's lol
there will be a thread soon posted by Muggz "need help overclocking my GPU's".. lol
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 10:33pm | |
lol >.<
Yea I put them on LC in the build I posted, but I want to know if it's necessary or not. Justin, I don't really wanna fry 1000 bucks in video cards in a year, what is the life span like? |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2010 at 11:19pm | |
air cooled GTX 480's will be fine, should last a long time.. the classified motherboard will put them apart a ways so they will run a tad cooler... no liquid cooling then prolly don't do the overclock on them. if you do, that is what the warranty is for.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 12:17am | |
Here you go Ticket# 404615 --- Price: $4031 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $3681
Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Digital Storm HailStorm (Black OPS Edition) Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1250W Enermax Galaxy EVO (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Recommended) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA EVGA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards H20 Tube Color:Blue Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service) Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty if you want LC on gpu then that is what you want. |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 12:49am | |
Thanks for the reply. I can see you did a couple changes obviously.
1. Do you think SSD are not worth the $? 2. Why change to 1 480x, will 2 not give a big enough bonus? 3. Is it not worth upping the OC speed on the cpu? I figure if LC cool it, it should be able to handle quite a bit, but I don't know if it's the worth the $200. 4. Why 7 professional? |
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Dragoonseal
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 2:22am | |
I think he's just used to configuring budget systems all the time and passed that up by accident. SSDs all the way, they have my endorsement, especially when you're going to be plunking down over $4k for such a nice PC, you'd sell yourself short without one. Get the Intel 80GB or Intel 160GB SSD for OS/apps/games, depending on how much space you need, then move the 1TB drive down to be the secondary HDD.
Professional gives you access to XP Mode, in case you get any older apps that don't work under Windows 7, for just a few dollars more. |
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Lilim
Intel Core i7 920 @4.2GHz HAF 932 - Dual SLI Nvidia GTX 480s 3x Intel X25-M G2 (80GB) SSD RAID0 |
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Cretae
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 5:59pm | |
Definitely SSD.The 160 Intel is best here.
OC on CPU above stage one will have no result in gaming. Waste of money.
DK why DST4ME went to one card, but you don't need 2 for your res may be why. IMO, by the time you might need 2, there will be a hot new card out better than 2X480 you want instead?
BTW, nobody brought up the ram, but the 2000 MHz is overkill for gaming. Would never see the difference.
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 8:14pm | |
Should I get 2 480s for the option of going to dual monitors?
Why do you think having the CPU at +4.0 have no effect on gaming? He changed the RAM, i looked again. back to 1600 mhz. What does RAM speed help with? Loading times and such right? |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 8:16pm | |
On stage overclock, can I expect the highest number *example 3.9?
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Herniter
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 9:10pm | |
With liquid cooling you can expect a fairly high overclock, do note however that every chip is different and will overclock differently. |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 9:58pm | |
Well I guess I don't get with the same cooling how you can get a free upgrade to 3.4-3.9 and if u pay more $ you get up to 4+...the chips the same...I just don't understand it...When they overclock 4+ are they putting any additional hardware in it?
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2010 at 11:05pm | |
Okay I've narrowed down everything pretty much. Last question is this: $200 for CPU Overclock 4.0-4.2. I do have the required liquid cooling to select this upgrade. Again, this is for gaming primarily. Also, maybe want to get 2 monitors at one point, would this be beneficial at all to that?
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2010 at 8:49am | |
the Intel 920 will overclock so easily, that you can overclock one to a mild 3.5Ghz, and not have to do anything but raise the B clock. but when you start getting up o 4.0Ghz and higher it takes more time to get a stable overclock, and that is what you are paying for, their time to get that high overclock. I have overclocked a few 920's and they all would top out around 4.3Ghz-4.7 Ghz with complete stability.. but to get them that high, it takes a lot of time.
From my testing going over 4.0Ghz for gaming will not help, unless you are running 3 high end GPU's, and even then, most games will not show much gain.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2010 at 6:29pm | |
ya stage 2 oc for gaming is pointless, with stage 1 oc, on air or LC you can expect to be between 3.5 and 3.9 depending on the chip itself.
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2010 at 12:55am | |
How long does it take a computer to get to your house once you order it?
I am probably going to be moving in like 5 weeks...so can I order it and be assured it will get here? |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2010 at 4:11am | |
okay found it on a part of the site, looks like a build time of 15 days, should be plenty of time to get it here unless you guys tell me that they routinely go over that I'll be ordering in the next day or 2 me thinks.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2010 at 5:10pm | |
Honestly it all depends if you got a custom system or not, and even if its not, if they have all the parts for your pc, if they have it all, normally they knock them out quick, 5 to 10 business days, I have seen systems get done in 5 days before, but if you ask me, stop being on worked up about when you will get the pc, custom places like this, you want them to take their time, and if something needs to take a bit longer, you will be angry and worked up and etc, in short just try to relax and sit back, take how ever long it takes to build the pc to get ready for it, get all the software and drivers and etc ready and in order, etc.
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2010 at 5:13pm | |
My main thing was about not being in my house when it was delivered :)
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2010 at 5:19pm | |
that you are not gonna know till it hits stage 7, till then we are all just assuming how long it will take and there is a great chance that we are wrong.
once you find the delivery date after stage 7, then you should put that day aside and be home to receive it, or at least have somebody home to receive it. |
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2010 at 5:23pm | |
I guess you didn't read that I would not be living here in 4-5 weeks >< That's what I was referring to.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2010 at 5:40pm | |
Oh, sorry, , when you said "not being in my house" I took that as being local.
well 4 to 5 weeks, I think is too long and it will be there before you, but maybe you can ask DS to hold it and ship it 5 days before you get home? |
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Cretae
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 May 2010 at 6:43pm | |
I live in Florida, and it took a full 6 days to get here once it shipped. Counting back from that, it gives DS almost 4 weeks to build your system to meet your deadline.If you live closer to CA, I think you can assume shorter shipping time. If something gets hung up, and time is getting short, you can always tell DS to hold shipping until you're resettled.
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 May 2010 at 7:48pm | |
Yeah I might have to do it if there any snags. I live about 5 hours away so i'm guessing shorter shipping :D
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Muggz
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 May 2010 at 1:18pm | |
Hey guys, I've ordered my system but there is a chance I will be receiving a small credit that I could use to get something else added to my system. Here are my options I think. Around 200-250 bucks i would think.
1. RAM to 2000 mhz (160) and OC it (20) 2. Stage 2 OC CPU (200) 3. Water Cooling to include mobo along with dual gpu/cpu. (150) Opinions if I in fact get a credit? Thanks. |
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