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Post Date: 2021-08-06

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  Quote Cheshire_Khajiit Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Looking for advice for maximizing stability
    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 at 9:27pm
Budget:
[7000 max, but would like to remain below]

Expectations:
[A gaming rig with excellent stability and good cooling]

Usage:
[Lots of gaming at the highest graphics settings]

Special Needs:
[Stability! I live in a house that gets into the 80s temperature wise and I want to minimize overheating. I'm willing to dedicate a decent chunk of the budget to increasing system stability and cooling.]

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[Looking for advice on all system components and cooling options with an emphasis on stable performance. My current DigitalStorm computer, which has served me well for 7 years of gaming is beginning to have some serious issues with bluescreens and overheating and I'd like to minimize these issues in my next computer to whatever extent is possible (granted, components degrade over time).]

Edited by Cheshire_Khajiit - 06 Aug 2021 at 9:28pm
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2021 at 1:03am
What size monitor will you be using? You'll probably need to make that decision first, since it will affect the performance of the entire system. Then the members of this forum will be able to help you more. I Imagine you'll get all kinds of helpful suggestions.
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  Quote Cheshire_Khajiit Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2021 at 1:16am
Originally posted by JamesAstro

What size monitor will you be using? You'll probably need to make that decision first, since it will affect the performance of the entire system. Then the members of this forum will be able to help you more. I Imagine you'll get all kinds of helpful suggestions.


Hi James, thanks for the help! I'll likely be using a 27 inch monitor similar to the 2k resolution ASUS one DigitalStorm sells as an optional add-on. Definitely let me know if any other info would be useful!

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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Aug 2021 at 1:26pm
Here is one possible configuration that would work for $4199

Configuration #4020718. To see the configuration, go to the main DS home page, and click on Load Config in the upper right corner.

And here is an explanation of my choices:

• Velox sounds like a good choice for you since it has plenty of interior room, and excellent air flow. Just keep in mind that it's a somewhat large case.

• Since you have a high budget, I selected the Intel Core i9-11900K CPU. However, if you're doing more than gaming, then it might be worth looking at AMD Ryzen CPUs. Those have more cores, so they can be faster for non-gaming purposes.

• I'm not an expert on motherboards, but I selected the ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero. It's a step up from the base model motherboard, and I imagine it might have better cooling than the cheaper one. That's just an educated guess though.

• Since you have a high budget, I selected 32GB DDR4 3600MHz G.Skill TridentZ memory. That might be more than you need. You could downsize that to 16 GB if you are just gaming.

• You didn't mention how much storage you need, so I made a guess. I selected the 1TB Samsung 980 PRO for the boot drive. This one is super fast. I also added a 2TB spinning hard drive for extra storage. You could delete that if you don't need the extra space.

• I selected the RTX 3080 as your graphics card. That should be more than enough to drive your 27" monitor at high quality, and at a high framerate. However, if you are interested in future proofing your system, you could upgrade to the 3080 Ti. It's expensive though, and would likely be overkill right now. There is also the RTX 3090. It's even more expensive, but has better cooling than the 3080 Ti.

• For cooling I selected H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan). That should keep your CPU cool, and it will help to keep the interior of your computer cooler than if you were using an air cooler.

• I also chose NOT to do any CPU boosting or GPU boosting. Those would be bad things to try if you're concerned about high temperatures. Plus, there is a lot of evidence that CPU boosting doesn't help gaming when using modern CPUs.

Anyway, I hope that helps to get you started. I bet you'll get some additional good advice from the other members here. I went through all this about a month ago when I ordered my Velox system, and the members here were amazingly helpful.

Edited by JamesAstro - 07 Aug 2021 at 1:33pm
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2021 at 4:30am
Well, something went awry. When I look at 4020781, I'm looking at a $2800 Lumos.

There are two considerations you must be aware of before you decide. Is this strictly for gaming? And are you aware of how stupid fast and stupidly priced GPUs are right now? Your budget allows for overkill everywhere, but that's not how I operate. JamesAstro has gone that route.

If there are any productivity uses you have, you are better off with a higher core AMD CPU. It is true that an Intel 11900 K is the fastest gaming chip, but all the top processors are quite overpowered for gaming, and will last well over 5 years as viable.

There is absolutely no point in paying for GPU overkill at these prices no matter how much money you have. the right card for you is an RTX 3070 for great gaming experience at 1440p. That card runs just 5% shy of last gen's 2080 Ti, and no one recommended that for 2k gaming.

Here's an AMD build with a processor upgrade in a Lumos case:

https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4021674

$3763. I like the AMD line because they have better options for upgraded motherboards without breaking the bank. The Gaming PRO Carbon is a favorite. More features, better thermal control.

32GB of RAM will be more than you need for the life of the machine 850W of power is very strong.

The Samsung 980 PRO is one of the fastest new NVMe SSDs around. There is no point in a mechanical hard drive, and no need for any more super-fast NVMe storage. The 860 EVO is the only SSD that makes sense here. The 3070 is the right card for you. The 3070 Ti doesn't deliver enough bang for the buck, and the 3080s are for 4K.

Intel looks like this in a Velox:

https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4021699

$4034 Most of the difference is in the much pricier motherboard. That's unnecessary, but it's the only upgrade available for an Intel build. Something similar would be the Crosshair VIII Dark Hero for AMD. They are both a bit overkill IMHO.

This system is all of 5% faster. You would never tell the difference. The Velox case is more expensive, and has the window on the right side. This means the mobo is upside down, and so's your GPU. Either case has great airflow. Put the AMD build in a Velox or vice-versa.

We are just about a year from Nvidia's next gen of GPUs. We all hope the market will return to sanity within that time. Since it's that close, there is no point at all in "future proofing" your rig by overpaying for an over-powered GPU. RTX 3070 gaming will more than sustain until other options are on the table.

I selected the internal lighting and the RGB fans just for bling. The stock case fans are fine if you don't want that.

You may wish to partition your primary drive just for OS, browser, apps and maintenance software, so if there's a problem with Win, you won't have to wipe the whole drive. My storage recommendations are the best budget options available here. I don't see the point in mechanical drives anymore, but I don't like to overpay for SSDs. The 860 PROs are not for a gaming rig, and one NVMe is plenty.

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  Quote Cheshire_Khajiit Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2021 at 10:59am
Thank you both for the excellent advice - really appreciate the time you put into giving it to me!
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Aug 2021 at 3:17pm
Cretae makes a really good point about the Velox having its window on the opposite side, and the motherboard being upside down. I forgot that's one of my original reasons for getting the Velox. It fits better into my current office layout. It's definitely something you should take into consideration.
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