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  Quote HalfOrc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Looking for advice on my replacement DS Desktop
    Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 1:25pm
Budget:
My budget is around $3,000.00

Expectations:
I am looking at replacing my 9-year-old DS desktop. I play 4x and RPGs mostly. My main MMO is DDO. I am looking at trying VR and want a computer that will be a good starting point. I also would like my new computer to be as lasting and upgradeable as my old one.


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Mostly a gaming computer.

Special Needs:


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(Config # 2722876)

Specifications:
Item 1 --- Digital Storm Lumos (Config # 2722876)
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$3,001.00
$3,001.00
Chassis
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos

Core Components
Processor: Intel Core i9-9900KS (5.0 GHz Turbo All Cores) (16-Thread) (8-Core) (Special Edition)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix Z390-H Gaming (Intel Z390 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (RGB Light Bar)
Power Supply: 850W Corsair RM850x (Fully Modular)

Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 860 EVO)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Seagate / Toshiba / Hitachi)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio

Digital Storm Engineering
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H115i PRO - 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Corsair ML PRO Series (High Static Pressure) (Magnetic Levitation)

Digital Storm TwisterBoost Technology
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU - Up to 5.1GHz on All CPU Cores

Software
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)

Accessories / Goodies

Customer Care
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 3:49pm
Most of your build selections look solid...

What Res monitor do you plan on using?

You are kinda at RTX entry level 1080P with a 2060 Super, and I would say if wanting to try VR and using a 2K / 1440P IPS G-Sync monitor with a fast refresh rate...you would want to use the better midrange RTX 2070 Super GPU....and if you are going to use a 4K panel you should use a stronger RTX 2080 Super or top 2080 Ti.   

Also, move up to a better Drive1 selection.   You selected a 1 tb SATA III SSD.   Go with the Samsung Evo 970 Plus 1 TB M.2 NVME SSD for 5X faster than SATA using the PCIE video bus of your motherboard.   There are two of these ports right on the motherboard, so using one still leaves an open port for adding another M.2 NVME Drive easily when needed.   

See what you think....
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Excuse my budding in. HockeyBuck you helped me with a build a while back, this is the Gmom Dottie. I have not purchased monitor yet. I'm confused. Should I go with Gsync or will free sync be ok? And should I break the budget or will a $400 monitor do the trick? Thank you
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Nov 2019 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by dottied5

Excuse my budding in. HockeyBuck you helped me with a build a while back, this is the Gmom Dottie. I have not purchased monitor yet. I'm confused. Should I go with Gsync or will free sync be ok? And should I break the budget or will a $400 monitor do the trick? Thank you


Hey dottied5!     Lots of deals out there to look for.   Stick with an IPS color quality 2K / 1440P resolution monitor with G-Sync on board so it works best with his NVidia video card.    Something from the NVidia tested and approved list...

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/


I can recommend these two available on amazon, Newegg, lots of other sites...

Asus PG279Q 27”. IPS. G-Sync 2K/1440P
Dell Alienware 34”. IPS. G- Sync 2K/ 1440P
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 6:02am
@ Dottied5

Both excellent monitors. The 34" is not for everyone. basically, it looks very long and not very high. Not the look most of us are used to. You need quite a bit of space for it on a desktop.

The best idea before you invest in a top-end very high resolution monitor is to go to a local retailer that has a variety of monitors on display. The most common display type is called 1080p and displays a matrix of 1920x1080 pixels, or individual dots on a screen. They are tiny. The next step up is 1440p which displays 2156x1440 dots which are much smaller in the same space. You may well decide that the difference between 1080p and 1440p resolutions is not that great that you want to spend the considerable difference in price. Size is a big factor. The larger the display, the more you might want smaller pixels. The traditional display size was 24" diagonally, but the ability to display more pixels led to larger monitors. There is nothing wrong with a smaller display at 1080p that fits both your needs and your space. I've used one for almost 10 years. My space is very limited.

Your video card is well able to run a good-sized 1440p monitor, but you may all decide there is not that visible a difference. Screen refresh rates above 60/second are all the rage, but not a necessity either. Science often claims the average among us can't really discern much above 60 frames per second, but hard-core gamers say they can, and I believe it. I also believe they are not average, and the difference must be subtle. (Movies seem seamless to us at 24 frames per second!) If you get a 60 fps monitor, you won't need to worry about Q-Sync.

As HB advises, stick with an IPS panel rather than a TN panel. I won't go into what they mean, but the IPS displays better, more vibrant color, and does not "wash out" when you view from a slight angle from straight on.

Sorry for the TMI, I'm aware you are new to this, and I hope I've not overwhelmed you. Before you spend upwards of $600 on the high-end, I think you need to know there's choice. Come back in your own thread if you have more questions.


Edit: I don't know if this is welcome, but I just came across this seemingly good value.

https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/331q

Dell monitors have a very high reputation around the computing community, including this forum. This one appears to have all the best aspects of the Asus mentioned by HB, except the high refresh rate. Might be an option.


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  Quote HalfOrc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 4:12pm
Dottied5
No troubles breaking in. This answers a question I had also so thanks.

I can make the reach for the upgrades of the GPU to RTX 2070 and the Samsung Evo 970. Looking closer at them both, your right HockeyBuck they make more sense for me.

I know I will be upgrading my monitor. Thanks Cretae for giving me a good place to start looking and weed out some.
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  Quote dottied5 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 5:43pm
Thanks so much Cretae! So happens in walmart tonight i purchased Acer Predator XB1 27" $399 plus tax. All the boxes seemed checked until i read your post and a investigated a bit more , only to notice the monitor is not IPS so I should probably return and stick to the most recommended in this forum, correct? Thanks for all the great info and guidance.
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by dottied5

Thanks so much Cretae! So happens in walmart tonight i purchased Acer Predator XB1 27" $399 plus tax. All the boxes seemed checked until i read your post and a investigated a bit more , only to notice the monitor is not IPS so I should probably return and stick to the most recommended in this forum, correct? Thanks for all the great info and guidance.


Lol...There’s usually a reason why things are cheaper... TN is just not the color quality of IPS...
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  Quote dottied5 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 6:33pm
30 bucks more and I can buy this,look better? ASUS ROG Swift PG278QR 27” Gaming Monitor 1440p 1ms 165Hz DP HDMI G-SYNC Eye Care
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  Quote dottied5 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 6:36pm
what is diff tween
Asus PG279Q 27”. IPS. G-Sync 2K/1440P
ASUS ROG Swift PG278QR 27”
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  Quote dottied5 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by HockeyBuck

Originally posted by dottied5

Thanks so much Cretae! So happens in walmart tonight i purchased Acer Predator XB1 27" $399 plus tax. All the boxes seemed checked until i read your post and a investigated a bit more , only to notice the monitor is not IPS so I should probably return and stick to the most recommended in this forum, correct? Thanks for all the great info and guidance.


Lol...There’s usually a reason why things are cheaper... TN is just not the color quality of IPS...
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  Quote dottied5 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 6:46pm
alright then, Asus PG279Q 27” is IPS the other is not, thanks YOu TuBe... so much to learn. geez I'm sure you guys would have chimmined in but i went out on a limb and looked into meself
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  Quote dottied5 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 7:33pm
Wow i did not understand i could filter the Nvidia G Sync monitor list.Time Saver,duh on me
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 10:53pm
Lol...Grandma Dottie is going to be the expert who knows all!   Hope this young guy learns how hard grandma studied up here to make this big Xmas happen for him... You got this all under control!   Haha...
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Boy do I understand the desire to get the best you can.

I still think the diff between 60 fps and those higher numbers are not necessarily worth the premium they require. If you don't have a special purpose, like trying to hone skills for competitive gaming, there's no way you would ever see the difference without having the two frame rates side by side. And then, many of us still might not notice it much. The vast majority of game types are relatively static, with only a few things actually changing in real time onscreen. But even in the "first person shooter" genre where you are perhaps seeing the environment through the eyes of your character, and you are moving much of the time, I have never noticed any lag or slowdown from "normal" motion. It may just be me, but more likely it's "normal" because we have nothing to compare it to.

The difference between 60 fps and higher frame rates is more something "noticed" rather than something "seen".
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Lol...Grandma Dottie is going to be the expert who knows all!   Hope this young guy learns how hard grandma studied up here to make this big Xmas happen for him... You got this all under control!   Haha...
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  Quote dottied5 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Nov 2019 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by Cretae



Boy do I understand the desire to get the best you can.

I still think the diff between 60 fps and those higher numbers are not necessarily worth the premium they require. If you don't have a special purpose, like trying to hone skills for competitive gaming, there's no way you would ever see the difference without having the two frame rates side by side. And then, many of us still might not notice it much. The vast majority of game types are relatively static, with only a few things actually changing in real time onscreen. But even in the "first person shooter" genre where you are perhaps seeing the environment through the eyes of your character, and you are moving much of the time, I have never noticed any lag or slowdown from "normal" motion. It may just be me, but more likely it's "normal" because we have nothing to compare it to.

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Originally posted by HockeyBuck

Lol...Grandma Dottie is going to be the expert who knows all!   Hope this young guy learns how hard grandma studied up here to make this big Xmas happen for him... You got this all under control!   Haha...
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  Quote HalfOrc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 12:37pm
I put the order in this morning. I changed out to the RTX2070Super GPU and the Samsung Evo 970 Plus 1TB. Living in the Great White North took half my black Friday saving for shipping. Not a bad cost for living in one of the world best locations. Thanks for the help and advice. May you all have a great holiday.
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Nov 2019 at 1:37pm
Lol...Yep we all make a few compromises...
Well done sir!   Let us all know how it goes for you...
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Happy for you. Think your holidays will be pretty FUN!
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