Looking for suggestions on this build

Originally posted by utbigred I'm not too familiar with the motherboard so I'm looking for suggestions if I need to change it.

Not in my opinion.

As for the remainder... I only have one notation:

While I don't see a problem ordering a new system with Windows 10 (installed), you'll probably want to upgrade to Windows 11 sooner than later.

Performance Hybrid Architecture in 12th Gen Intel® Core™ Platforms Using Windows® 10 | Intel

Originally posted by Intel Summary Explains performance hybrid architecture in Windows® 10 and Windows 11* for 12th Gen Intel® Core™ Platforms. Description Observing a lower score on 12th Gen Intel® Core™ Platforms with performance hybrid architecture using Windows 10 Resolution While Windows® 10 performs great with 12th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors with performance hybrid architecture, upgrading to Windows 11* will allow your system to use the full capabilities of Intel® Thread Director to send the right workload to the right core at the right time.

Intel Innovation 2021: Introducing Intel Thread Director | Intel Newsroom (YouTube)

Innovation 2022 Demo: 13th Gen Intel Core Desktop Processors | Intel Newsroom (YouTube)

* I've tried Windows 11 for a short while and will be avoiding it for now. I didn't have any problems, simply not ready to force myself to adjust to the new UX. Fortunately, none of my hardware strongly benefits.

Originally posted by txfeinbergs Surprised they are allowing orders for the 13th gen Intel processors.

Agreed. DS got on top of that quickly.

Originally posted by txfeinbergs You realize you will have to wait until the end of October before they even start building your system right?

I've never been part of a big enough SI to have direct/wholesale connections, but assume DS could receive at least some new hardware batches early (though seemingly can't ship PCs with the new hardware until the official launch date).

Originally posted by Digital Storm Estimated Ship Date: End of October

Edited by MrCheetah - 29 Sep 2022 at 7:34pm

Originally posted by Cretae Apologies. I'm a little tardy today from battling a hurricane, and my power remains off. I'm trying to reply on my phone, which I've never done before. Aside from what MrCheetah has had to say, I'm wondering why you are fine with an end of Oct. ship date with the RTX 4080 due in November. If I read you correctly, you are over-reaching a bit for a 3080 Ti instead of waiting a week or three for the 4080. Nvidia declares the 4080 to be 2-4 times faster than that very same 3080 Ti. It's priced at $899. The card you've ordered is coming in around $1500. Now I can't predict what DS will ask for the 4080, but I do know that double the performance plus all the latest tech upgrades in RT and DLSS to name two might just be worth waiting to find out. If you want a card that will "last quite a bit", I'm betting on the 4080. I may well save you some cash in the bargain. Just sayin'.

Originally posted by utbigred That's the weird thing. I've been paying attention to the prices lately and I did notice a drop across the board for 3000 series. Part of me thinks that even with the 4000 series, their pricing wont change and probably charge the 4000 series higher than msrp. Of course if the prices for 4000 is cheaper or about the same price, then sure I'll make the changes. As for the13 series. They changed the selection because one of my previously saved build had the i7-12700k and now it's not there anymore :(

Here's another weird thing: DS is offering the 3080 Ti for $1204 above whatever they're selling the 1650 for. I can only speculate why. I figure that total cost to you is around $1500. The 4080 12GB is set at $899 by Nvidia. I can only speculate what DS will charge above that for procurement, expert installation, and rigorous testing, but I'm willing to bet it won't be $600. Even if it were, it would be vastly superior tech and up to 2-4 times as fast per Nvidia. You really want to overpay for the older card, do it.

Since the 4080 12GB won't be out until sometime in Nov., and your rig is set to ship in Oct., you may not have the option to change your order in time. My advice, since you have to wait anyway, is not to order just yet and/or inquire of DS when they expect to offer the 4080. In my experience, they are pretty tight-lipped about such things.

By the way, getting a cutting edge CPU just as it hits the market with much better performance than the one you had your eye on isn't much of a frowny face IMHO.

@fwfdfireman: I can't agree the 4080 12GB is some kind of dog. It's a freaking monster IMHO. I'd prefer to think of the 16GB model as the Ti version.

Thanks for your best wishes. I'm in Tampa Bay as well, on the Gulf side not in a flood zone. We dodged another one that might have been a pretty total wipeout. Power's still out 'til tonight, but it's a cheap price to pay considering what might have been.    

Edited by Cretae - 01 Oct 2022 at 8:56am

Power's back! The link didn't work so here it is for those who want it:

https://fossbytes.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-vs-3080-ti-specs/https://fossbytes.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-vs-3080-ti-specs/

I actually was looking at this very article yesterday, but I couldn't figure out how to copy and paste the link from a phone. There's some good info here to support my point. I'm going to address the 12GB model as I'm more sure DS will price it lower than what they're currently asking for the 3080 Ti.

Have a look first at the clock speeds. That's only part of the 4080's superiority, but it's a massive 56% base clock over the 3080 Ti. If you find an across-the-board comparison between the cards, you will find sometimes the 4080 has less of one quality or another from the previous gen, but the drop from 8nm fab to 4nm cancels out all those differences and provides enhancement of every measure. Note the 4x performance Nvidia boasts of is in Ray Tracing performance. Also note the card draws significantly less power than either 3080, so fears these newest cards would pull far more power are not confirmed.

Bottom line, the 4080 is worth waiting a couple extra weeks IMHO. If DS treats it like the new Intel CPUs, you may get pricing and order capability by the end of the month in advance of the 4080 release.

If you insist the 3080 Ti is your best option, I wouldn't buy it here. Get your rig with a 1650 and shop the market for the upgrade, then sell the almost new 1650.

Hope it helps.    

It's going to be interesting to see what nVidia does after the 4080s and 4090 release.

IF it were me, I would wait to see what is what after real benchmark testing is done. I sure wouldn't rush out to buy an older gen. card, even if the price dropped. But that's me.

IT's up to utbigred to make the decisions, based off all our back and forth (lol), links and his/her own research to decide what best suits their needs/wants and makes them happy. They happy, I happy.

@fwfdfireman My thinking is that I don't need that powerful of a graphics card especially in the current market of games. However I do want something to last quite a while and can handle games at max settings. For now I will wait and see what DS does.

@utbigred : Sound thinking. Like I said, YOU decide what will make you happy and serve your needs. Information is all anyone can provide you to help in your decision making.

Like you said, wait and see what DS does. AND, also wait and see what everyone else does too. With some patience, you can position yourself to have tons of options instead of limited options.

New config:



Edited by utbigred - 20 Oct 2022 at 9:13am

Originally posted by JamesAstro That looks like a nice machine! Personally, I would upgrade the 2TB storage to a Samsung 980 Pro. That would give you double the performance for $91 more. However, you may not need the extra speed. You can use this website to predict your power usage: https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator I ran the numbers for you, and it says you would need 867 watts for your PSU. It sounds like your 1000 watt choice would be good. I always go overkill on the PSU, but mainly because I'm obsessed with having a quiet machine. The more powerful PSU's tend to have lower fan speeds. However, that's not a priority for most people. Overall, I think you have a nice build there.

Hi!

Perfectly comfortable using 1000W with the 13900K + 4090.

I believe 1000W is the minimum you're able to select on our configurator when selecting the 4090.

I actually thought about pushing it 1300 PSU but I figure if I need it, that can be easily upgradeable. Thanks for the tips guys!