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    Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 3:50am
Alienware/Dell announced a laptop that is the fastest in the universe. I think it is called the M17x. How does that compare to the fastest DS laptop. And compare in performace and $ to DS fastest laptop.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 4:58am
of course the DS laptop is faster, DS offers you actual l7 920, 940, 950 or 975 in a laptop, you think little dinky qx9300 will compete?

qx9300 is at 2.5GHz

a 920 is at 2.6GHz

a 940 is at 2.9GHz

a 950 is at 3.06Ghz

a 975 is at 3.33GHz

the only thing m17x has on DS is a dual 280m as an option where DS offers only a signle 280m.

not sure what ssd brands dell is using.

if you try and config similar system here and there, you will see the dell will cost more for no reason.

here you see a faster laptop by DS cost less then the slower laptop by dell:

DS laptop:

Here you go Ticket# 292329 --- Price: $3666 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $3466

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Benchmark Crusher (Model: D9280) (Weight: 11.55LBS)
Display: 17 inch WUXGA with Enhanced Glossy Surface (Resolution: 1920 x 1200)
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 940 2.93 GHz (Quad Core)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 at 1066MHz (Extreme-Performance)
Inputs: 4 USB 2.0 Ports / Gigabit Ethernet LAN / V.92 Modem / 1394 FireWire / 7-in-1 Card Reader
Main Storage: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: OCZ) Vertex Series (Model: OCZSSD2-1VTX120G)
Extra Storage: - No Thanks
Raid Options: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 8x / CD-Writer)
Wireless Access: 802.11 A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
Features: Desktop Computer Platform / Supports Up To Three Hard Drives
Outputs: DVI/CRT Port / S-Video / Headphone / Microphone
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M 1GB
External TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office Suite: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Carry Bag: - No Thanks
External Cooling: - No Thanks
External Keyboard: - No Thanks
External Mouse: - No Thanks
External Speakers: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Full Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Labor & 1 Year Parts Warranty

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M17X: price $3748.00



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now lets review shall we

DS cpu:    Intel Core i7 940 2.93 GHz (Quad Core)(1333 MHz qpi(FSB))

M17X cpu: Intel® Core™2 Extreme Quad QX9300 2.53GHz (1066MHz FSB)

DS wins with a faster cpu 2.93Ghz and faster qpi(FSB)1333MHz

ram is the same for both

DS HDD:    120GB Solid State (By: OCZ) Vertex Series

M17X HDD: 128GB god knows what brand

DS wins, no matter what the brand of ssd M17X has, the vertex should be faster with the new firmware and it will have better wear and tear, overall better quality ssd for you money.

DS gpu:   NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280M 1GB

M17X gpu: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M, 1GB

DS wins with the 280M

DS price:    $3466

M17X price: $3748

DS wins better price.

conclusion, faster cpu, faster gpu, better ssd, all for $300 less.

DS is the winner

we won't even dicuss Alienware's sh*tty customer service and low quality parts.

I think world's fastest laptop would be one with a i7 975 which DS offers and its not even an option with the M17X.

Also DS offers up to 3 HDDs, M17X offers only up to   2 HDDs.

DS offers raid on up to 3 SSDs, M17X offers raid of only 7200rpm HDDs no option to raid SSDs.

if the M17X with those limitations is the fastest laptop in the universe then my name is barack obama

somebody call Alienware and let them know the universe is much bigger then their headquarters

Edited by DST4ME - 10 Jun 2009 at 5:38am
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  Quote lgm25c Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 7:31am
Has anyone consulted the Romulans yet? I think their systems are faster.  Heart
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  Quote Monstromo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:28am
Great response. Only questions I have is whether the overclocking they offer makes a difference? I suppose DS does too. Also, do the dual card solution with overclocking, make theirs the fastest in the universe. They claim on their website this. I wonder how they claim the part where they say they offer the fastest CPU in a laptop?


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 1:29pm
you can't/don't want to OC laptops, cause they can't handle the heat.

In the config section of M17X it says:

Intel® Core™2 Extreme Quad QX9300 2.53GHz (12MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB) [add $900 or $27/month1]
The Most Powerful Mobile Processor in the World!


there is no discussion of OCing the CPU.

wonder how they claim the part where they say they offer the fastest CPU in a laptop?

simple they are full of sh*t

see the qx9300 is currently the only quad core laptop cpu made, based on that they are trying to say since its in their laptop its the fastest laptop but as I just showed you its not, since other builders like DS have laptops with faster cpus in them, it may not be a mobile cpu but it does not need to be, it just needs to be able to run in a laptop which it does.

the gpu has nothing to do with your laptop speed, sure it helps in games that support sli but in games that don't its pointless.

pc speed first and formost is based on cpu, a cpu at 2.9Ghz will do many tasks much faster then a cpu at 2.5GHz

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  Quote A7X-Shane Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 5:27pm
Alienware has a D+ BBB rating.. DS has an A+ Ermm
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  Quote inferno23 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 5:32pm
Amen Dell is just bsing their way back up the dell age is over and so is alienware. HP is the company most are going with. but i think that if every1 who bought an alienware then bought a ds computer they would give alienware a F- and DS an A+ 1 zillion lawl CHEERS

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 5:35pm
Most people I know say HP sucks, my friends that have PC repair shops say that HP keeps them in good business.

I for one have never been a HP fan, I have had dells and like my dell PCs but you can't upgrade them and I can't even compare them with DS.

alienware plain sucks.



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  Quote inferno23 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 5:45pm
yep i didnt say hp was any better im saying when i was a salesman that what most wanted. i know they suck as all computers basically u get for under 800 and the warrantys not that great either some guy was complaing how hed had his HP labtop for 3 months and it broke and after we told him unless u got a PPP with us HP was who u go 2. week later he was back and they wouldn't honor his warranty either. poor guy thats y i wanna design computers myslef 1 so i can make a fortune off ppl who go with hp's and dells while being able to skip round them myself or i could always ask DS to build me another oneEvil%20Smile + hp sells total bs cuz 80% of customers always came in i dont want a gateway or toshiba i got an hp printer so i need/want a hp computer lawl

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 6:16pm
I was not disagreeing with inforno I was just saying hp sucks
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  Quote ShaneF187 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 9:57pm
I have a funny story to tell.Smile A couple months ago I wanted to buy a used Alienware M17x laptop from some guy on eBay for around $1600 bucks. My card had a $1500 limit so I couldn't pay for it unless I notified my bank, which I didn't feel like doing, so about two weeks later the guy canceled the transaction. Somehow I came across Digital Storm while looking for another computer to buy and instead purchased a brand new i7 rigConfused for under $1500. I'm so happy that I wasn't able to buy that laptop because I would have been stuck with a crappy base model Alienware laptop.
Just to stay on topic the S17 that DS offers blows away any laptop Dellienware makes.
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