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Post Date: 2012-01-16

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    Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 2:38pm
Imagine my displeasure when after a year of being away from WoW, I cam back only to discover that my old iMac could no longer achieve more the 2 fps (or something absurdly low) after all the Cataclysm updates.

Hence, I've decided to come back to PC, so I can play games again, and have a machine that I can upgrade and so on and so forth. I considered building myself, but then I discovered DS, and now I'm enamored.

I was looking at the Enix and the build I am considering is:

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Enix Edition

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67-M (Intel P67 Chipset) (New B3 Revision) (Does Not Support SLI)

System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)

Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)

Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps) <b></b>

Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (750GB Seagate Barracuda (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (Model: HD-ST3750528AS) <b></b>

Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) (Slim Slot Loading Edition)

Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) (EVGA Edition)

Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio

Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler

Any comments on the build? I want to be able to play WoW and try out all the other games that I have been skipping for years... I want to play skyrim, crysis II, and be able to play new games that are released over the next few years. I'm not against upgrading the graphics card in the future. I'm not going to run multiple screens as I don't have the space. I have a 27" LED Viewsonic that I'll be using as my display.

I would like to be able to run Lightroom 3 and CS 5 efficiently and smoothly as I gradually move away from my mac. Those are the only other computing intensive activity I do.

I skipped liquid cooling as I read that it can be tough to change the RAM on the Enix with the LC system installed. And since the case is designed to move air, it seemed sensible to stick with an air cooled system.

A buddy pointed out that two graphics cards makes it more complicated when 1 fails a year after I get the machine and I either have to find a versiion of the original or replace with two. He pointed out that I will likely want a newer card in that event and I'll end up replacing a perfectly good card... So, I think I will just go with one card, no SLi. Also, If I am content with running the most demanding games on only high settings, not Max settings, then I won't really care if I don't have the best card or a dual card set up.

Anything wrong with this thinking? This build? How's that processer stack up? How about the mother board? Should I upgrade? I was thinking about the Asus Sabertooth, but I'm not really sure I understand the advantages.

Thanks all!
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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 4:57pm
Hi dmort, welcome to the forum.

We need to know the configuration number or what your budget is. My personal feeling is the Enix is a poor choice. I think you can do better. You don't need the 800w GS if you want non-SLI. The 750w HX is a much better choice. The intel 120 SSD has a better history of reliability. The 2500K doesn't have have Hyperthreading like the 2600K.

Once we know your budget I think the ODE series will be a better choice for you. Here is a link to the ODE series.

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  Quote dmort Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 5:33pm
Hey thanks. My budget is sub $2k. I was looking at the ode as well...
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  Quote dmort Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 8:46pm
Hey, after looking at the ODE, only briefly, I realize that it is likely better suited to my needs. However, I just think that silverstone FT03 case is awesome. It looks so cool.

But, I can sacrifice looks for performance and longevity.

For reference, the build I put together on the ENIX is ticket #644319
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 1:49am
Ode would eat your enix case for snack, I would not go with enix if you paid me.
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  Quote dmort Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 8:01pm
So, in order to run most games successfully, should I go with level 1 or level 2. Remember, I'm not a stickler for running at highest settings. I'm not trying to achieve max fps, just very good, very playable fps. Does that mean the 570 or the 580?
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If you are ok with turning things down single 570 is what you want, if you play games that need more vram then go with the 2.5GB version of 570.

forget ode 2 its a waste of your money, ode 1 for single or ode 3 for sli.

for $2k budget a custom config with single gpu will be a bit more reliable and better in some areas, but we can't beat ode prices.
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  Quote dmort Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 7:41pm
So basically I should go for ode 1 for my needs and budget. I wouldn't get more from a different system? I'm looking at some of the special ops systems and they all seem about the same expect for the case. For example, the crusader level 3 and the raven level 3 seem to have almost identical components.

What are the thoughts on a solid state boot drive? I don't have that option with ODE 1. Would it make sense to buy one, instal it myself and clone the os over?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 2:38pm
For single gpu system yes you should go with ode 1 and then get your own ssd and clone to ssd and use ssd as hdd1 for os/apps/games and push the hdd to hdd2 for storage.

forget blackops, you can't get the haf x's airflow there and the same system with same performance but less airflow will endup $300 more over there.
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