Memory Question

800MHz is fine for overclocking the Q6600 to 3.0GHz. They crank the Q6600 up to 3.0GHz.

DDR2 ram is duo-pumped (800MHz / 2 = 400MHz)
Intel CPUs are quad-pumped (1066MHz / 4 = 266MHz)

Both great monitors, you just paying the extra price for the upgrade in size. You decide if that's worth it.




Edited by skyR - 23 Sep 2007 at 2:23pm

They still carry the B3s I believe.

^I've read thats debatable but I believe ya. Im more concerned about temps. I know it isnt much of a differance but I figured the new g0 revision has been out awhile now and was hoping DS would have a fresh batch. Its not a big deal, was just curious. :)

Just got a call from DS, they're calling my bank now so hopefully everything gets processed today! Patience is a virtue...BAH HUMBUG!  It was funny too, I was downstairs outside and the phone was on the deck. I live in a chalet so theres a ton of steps to get back up to the deck. I hear the caller ID say its DIgital Storm so I ran as quick as I could to get the phone. I got there in time but was so winded I could hardly breathe! lol I really need to quit smoking!

I was actually reading through some older posts and noticed one where people were requesting the G0 stepping. I didnt see it until this morning. I can already see how it was snowballing and alot of people trying to make requests or revise their order. I dont want to be a hassle as others have said there isnt a very big change between the two revisions.

When I asked that question I didnt see the other thread. It was said that its likely we will get G0 revisions since they recieve fresh stock frequently, but no promises! :D So if nobody's sure i'll just take what I get and update you guys when my cpu arrives. Although knowing now would take a bit of suspense out of the equation!

Edited by donkeypunch - 24 Sep 2007 at 1:20pm

Yes, for hardcore OC'ing I read a few articles that said the G0 revision let them run a bit higher clock speeds stable. Since I dont plan on keeping my cpu in the freezer im not going to OC onto the brink of meltdown.

Edited by donkeypunch - 24 Sep 2007 at 1:38pm

"G0 fixes a handful of bugs, but most of them were minor and or have software workarounds in play. The more noticeable aspect of G0 is its lower power consumption, which some have proposed as meaning G0 cores may be better overclockers. "

When did you recieve your computer commast? Considering companies were getting G0 revisions on or around July 16th there hasnt been a big time gap to sell all the older B3 revisions. Its now been over 2 months so was hoping DS replenished their stock and got the new processors. I understand it would to too difficult to take special requests but I was hoping that they have fresh boards in now.

Originally posted by donkeypunch When did you recieve your computer commast? Considering companies were getting G0 revisions on or around July 16th there hasnt been a big time gap to sell all the older B3 revisions. Its now been over 2 months so was hoping DS replenished their stock and got the new processors. I understand it would to too difficult to take special requests but I was hoping that they have fresh boards in now.   I would think your case is a bit different if your saying you actually paid extra for the G0 and didnt get it. Seems like a misunderstanding but I truly hope you get that issue resolved!

And now im getting so frustrated. I originally ordered a Dell a full month ago. My order kept getting delayed for no apparent reason so I canceled and began my quest to find a custom builder. I took a long look at a few companies and decided DS seemed like the best. I have to tell you, I am impressed with their customer service already. Even they way they answer the phone gave me a chuckle!

Anywhoo, it seems my bank had all my updated address information EXCEPT for my debit card. I knew something was amiss considering every order I placed since I moved here had the same verification problem, but as soon as they called the bank everything was groovy.

I call my bank Friday and tell them im buying a computer and to up my limit to $3500. They say ok. That night I get an email from DS saying the address doesn't match. So today, Monday, I call the bank to find out how they forgot to update my debit card with my new address. She says shes on it like white on rice, cool beans. Now 5 minutes later DS calls and says the charge is being denied. I told my bank TWICE, both Friday and Monday to remove the block and authorize $3500! After DS told me this I called my bank at 5:01 EST and they were of course closed!

So now im stuck waiting to hear something from DS to try and run the card again. If I don't hear anything its yet another call to my bank to shake things up. I think I need to switch banks, never had such a hard time spending my own money lol. Sorry for the rant, just had to vent a little.


EDIT: A few minutes after writing this Alex calls to get the order through and verified. Everything worked out and my order is finally in and the suspense is over, or just beginning depending how you look at it :D Either way, thanks for the call Alex, very nice of you.


Edited by donkeypunch - 24 Sep 2007 at 8:33pm

I have to apologize about the G0 and B3 stepping request. They weren't as easy as we thought. It was being problematic in helping us thoroughly testing all of the machines during the back to school season.

Edited by Alex - 25 Sep 2007 at 1:41am

Originally posted by Alex I have to apologize about the G0 and B3 stepping request. They weren't as easy as we thought. It was being problematic in helping us thoroughly testing all of the machines during the back to school season. Commast, we were working long and hard for everyone that wanted a G0 processor. However taking the systems apart every time, and restocking the B3 processors and obtaining a new replacements were a very time consuming task for us. We had to be fair to all of our customers.   You are right that we should have contacted you about this, I am sorry about that, it's just that we didn't have a system in place to keep track of special requests such as yours. We did try our best. A special stepping request was a first, and I am not sure if other system integrators would even try to check core revisions on systems.   As from Intel, they stated the G0 and B3 are both being produced still. Our stock is always fresh, we don't stock up on processors, that's one of the ways we can pass the savings to our valued customers. From our personal experience, both of the B3 and G0 processors are perfectly fine. The G0 might be only a small degrees cooler, but, is that really going to make your system run faster?

You are right as usual Thanks for the update. So far my system ran beautifully. Didn't have any problems at all. It's just a little noisy but that's expected with all the new hardware. I was planning to put in another 120mm fan on top but i haven't seen the need for it yet since my system doesn't seem to give out that much heat. I am still amazed at how cool it is even after a couple hours.

Well, I just got my spiffy new monitor in today. Went with the 245b 24" Samsung. I think it looks great cosmetically. I was comming from a 19" Samsung so the picture quality looks about the same, just HUGE. My 5.1 setup also came in today, Logitech Z-5300e's.  They sound great, short rear cables though. And I been tinkering with this new Logitech Wave keyboard. I love the feel of it and cant wait to try it with Vista, they're supposed to go together like peanut butter N Jelly! I just need something to hook up all the new toys to!

I cant wait to see this CM 830 case  in person. Looks awesome from the pics!  Does that come standard with LED's in the front or was that added later? Also wondering if it comes with wheels. I tried googling it but it appears there's a few versions of the 830, some come with wheels, some don't. I was also wondering how many fans get put into the case? I see it has room for 9 (sheesh), but was wondering since you guys and gals put so many systems together if you have an optimal setup for fan placement? That really has to be one of the nicest cases I've ever seen...is having LED fans an option?

Did you OC your setup commast? If so what were you able to manage on air? Do you monitor the heat? Thats actually where i'd like a fan is right on the top to suck out all the hot rising air!  Ah well, off to bed.

So is it possible that we may get the GO Step Vs if we order... Is it a crapshoot?

Is there a price difference on the GO vs the B3?  Because I heard of people going to places and asking for the GO, and being charged much more for it because they had to open the box....  But otherwise would there be any way to tell? 

If you don't have the box or can't see the CPU, there's another way to tell if you have the B3 or G0 stepping : Use either CPU-Z or Sisoft Sandra.

^ True, I guess that would be kind of selective. So in reality I guess it is just random until the B3's stop being produced. Im not big on the companies that are charging a premium on something that doesnt cost any more to manufacture, but welcome to the world of business I guess. Its just the timing that we purchased our rigs, its at a time when theres two versions out there, and both have to sell. If we waited a month, which people would have the option to do if they knew about the different revisions before building their computer, then I think the chances would be much higher to get the G0.

I think everyone would prefer the G0, theres no reason NOT to want it, but the difference isnt so significant that im going to delay my order. And I only see a very few stores that are separating the G0's from the B3's, and they're charging a premium.  And from the few online cpu builders I don't recall seeing any of them specifically touting the G0 revision-seems like its still a mixed bag until Intel stops making the G3's.

Its funny, I was readin an article which I thought was very true. It was about OC'ing and how back in the day it was looked down upon, and would void any warranty. Now its the complete opposite and companies pretty much encourage OC'ing to an extent, and it would still be under warranty. Even large companies like Dell are now selling factory OC'ed machines!

So thats what got me to thinking, how does the warranty work with DS? If someone is new to OC'ing and fries something, does it get replaced? Is their a limit or percent people can OC their components and still be covered under warranty, or does it depend on the OEM of the particular component?

And one last question. I see in the configuration options for only 2 hard drives. Right now I have a 150GB raptor with Vista for my main drive, and a 500GB storage drive. Would it be possible to add a third HD and WinXP, or would it run just as good to partition the Raptor and put both OS's on that?
 


Edited by donkeypunch - 29 Sep 2007 at 12:27am