Mobo Temps and CPU VTT OptionsPost Date: 2010-12-23 |
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ablahblah
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Topic: Mobo Temps and CPU VTT Options Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 1:11am |
I knocked one of my new Sabertooth's heat spreaders by accident when i
was installing it, thankfully it was just a little bit off the thermal
grease (or whatever it is. blocks or something). Anyways, I was just
hoping to get a quick opinion of my mobo's temp readings after load.
MB itself - 39C Northbridge - 71C I was also redoing my overclock on the new board, but I didn't really find what would be equivalent to CPU VTT. Anyone know where it would be on an Asus board? My system runs stable now, but the settings DS tested stable with were with a CPU VTT of +50mv |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 8:51am |
should say QPI/DRAM
also stupid EVGA boards and the + voltage on QPI. lol your old board the base was 1.1V if I remember right, so 1.15v would be what is was at. but remember voltages will have different needs with different mobo's and different CPU's.
your NB temps seems high, is that at idle?? Edited by justin.kerr - 23 Dec 2010 at 8:54am |
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 2:26pm |
nah, that northbridge reading was after running for 3 hours and on a mild gaming session. after I let it cool off for a bit it lowered down to 65C or so, ever so slowly.
I just started up now and the NB is now warming up to 47C. EDIT :: QPI/DRAM voltage on my board is by default at a minimum of 1.2v Edited by ablahblah - 23 Dec 2010 at 4:32pm |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 4:37pm |
1.2 should be all you need, 1.25v would be max for 1600Mhz RAM
still pretty hot for a NB. make sure it is seated properly, might need a spot fan on there... once Overclocked, and running prime95, going to be an issue
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 6:14pm |
oh that's overclocked actually....
at the moment, running a BCLK of 188 and getting a NB idle reading of 56C. core temps are ~46C. the layout of my current setup puts my first 9600 GT in a rather bad position though, gets a little choked by the second one. when I put in the 570 on saturday and run just a pure, single GPU system, i'm hoping it gets better. putting it in the center slot to keep it away from the rest of the system too. EDIT :: NB warming to 59....geeze...I'm turning off overclocks for now. Edited by ablahblah - 23 Dec 2010 at 6:17pm |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 6:21pm |
idle temps mean nothing, load it up with prime95
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 6:36pm |
NB started increasing, at 63C now. stopped load when the CPU started getting way too toasty, I might have applied thermal paste badly or something of the like. going to have to get on that sometime.
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 10:03pm |
Huh. Maybe I should've just let it set more. The NB now is maximg out at 67C under light gaming load, for 3 hours again.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 10:12pm |
I won't let a PC go out if NB gets over 45C no mater how high the OC... I am sensing you are kind of a bull in a china closet..lol
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 10:21pm |
lol, alright. so what do you think can possibly be causing my NB to be that hot? Ven X is sort of towering above half of it, and it's sitting next to my main GPU which is running at ~60C. Obviously high, but the placement isn't that good in my current setup, sort of choked by the card next to it. The NB itself though I haven't physically touched yet though, so nothing should be affected with the actual uneven coating on the heat spreader.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 10:31pm |
"touch" is an old school way, that I still use.. Physically touching the parts, and if anything is hot, or burning, then yes there needs to be some adjustment, but, also, the better the cooler, the hotter it will be relative to the substrate it is attached to.
what kind of OC are you trying to do? hvave you ran any stress tests?
working up slowly from a known stable etup is the best.
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 10:35pm |
currently, running a 3.540Ghz overclock, DS tested it with turbo on so they reported it as 3.7 or so. I've ran Prime95 for the first time a few hours ago, which has led me to the assumption that I didn't apply thermal paste as well as I should have (or that my cooler isn't tightened down hard enough) because the processor shot up to near 100C. oddly enough, current idle temps are 40~50C though. Tomorrow I'll attempt to reapply TIM as well as checking the pressure on the cooler.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 10:48pm |
I am guessing you are no where near Montana? lol |
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 11:19pm |
Well, sort of, I'm in the midwest but not mountain area.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 11:49pm |
Ic, well I travel to the Dakotas, bout as far as my job goes, always willing to lend a hand if possible.
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Dec 2010 at 12:43am |
agh, I'm a little farther out than that, heh.
by the way, what program exactly do you guys use to check motherboard temps? I'm getting direct readings from my motherboard's included software. just wondering if that has anything to do with my temps. |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Dec 2010 at 1:05am |
on Asus boards, I use Asus program
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Dec 2010 at 1:49am |
alright alright, so I'm definitely seeing the 64C here for real. well, again, any ideas on what could be causing the NB to be so hot? would there be any possibility that it's getting hot is being caused by the fact that it's surrounded on 3 corners by heat generating mediums (Killer Xeno card, Ven X, hot primary GPU)? after saturday, I'll be doing some rearranging so I can run the system without those around the NB.
EDIT :: Rearranged system a little bit so that there's less around the NB. 52C and climbing from a fresh start... EDIT 2 :: Huh. I just did a Bing search (Bing FTW!) with the term "sabertooth high northbridge temps", and some other people are reporting NB temps in the lower 60s and high 70s under load as well. Possibly just an issue related to the Sabertooth? EDIT 3 :: Reapplied TIM, as well as increased Ven X pressure to maximum in pressure threshhold. CPU temps are in the lower 40s. NB seems to be cooler somehow, but still above 50s. EDIT 4 :: Noticed that I really have no airflow directly going over the NB...The Ven X sucks up the air from my side intake, while my GPUs suck up the air from the bottom 180mm fan. Pretty much barely any directed airflow is going to my NB. There's obvious dead spot in the middle of the case where there isn't a bottom intake fan, which for the CPU, that problem was bypassed by my side fan, but the NB is still getting choked. The good news is that at least there IS positive airflow in my case, since I can feel air coming out the front of my case. Still, I might consider to just swap cases maybe next year or so to alleviate the airflow issue. EDIT 5 :: Ran a Prim95 test for about 20 min. At the rate that the NB was heating up, I would estimate that the NB would likely level out before 75C...I'll get in a full couple of hours worth of burn in later on during the month though. Edited by ablahblah - 24 Dec 2010 at 4:49pm |
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 Dec 2010 at 2:07pm |
Did some research, apparently some people are reporting that this motherboard's NB just runs hot. Anyways, right now, after I switched over to a 570 and took out two GPUs, the NB now consistently idles at the high 50s, and I'm doing a Prime95 test (finally) to get load temps.
Oh and, um, justin, quick question. Can Vcore have any effect on your CPU's temperatures by any chance? I remembered what you said about motherboards having unique tolerances compared to each other, and I found today that the original Vcore of 1.35v I was applying was indicated in pink in my BIOS. I went down a notch and found yellow was the color below it, and the neutral color of blue below that. I decided to switch the Vcore down to as low as it would go before it hit yellow, and am now running a Prime95 burn in on it. The weird thing is that the proc before would shoot up to the high 80s after a few minutes of Prime95, while now it's still far from 80 (around the low 70s after 20min). I'm going to leave it there for a few hours, but I was hoping to get some insight on this. Edited by ablahblah - 26 Dec 2010 at 2:09pm |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 Dec 2010 at 3:20pm |
yes, Vcore directly effects temp of CPU, more juice, hotter it gets. The faster you push the CPU, (increasing the power output) will increase the temps also.
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 Dec 2010 at 6:11pm |
heh, that's interesting then. well, I have the NB load temps you wanted. After running Prime95 for a good 3 hours and a half or so, the NB reached a maximum of 62C. CPU temps also leveled off at 72C with a Vcore of 1.21v, at 3.724Ghz (Turbo on).
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 9:05am |
sounds like you are getting there. I like to run Linx first, it is faster testing wise, so even just 10 passes of Linx with max mem, is a good way to find the CPU V core setting, once it fails up it 2 notches of Voltage, then run a min of 20 passes, if it passes then go to 24 hours of prime95 blend test.
I have had many overclocks stable on Linx, then fail prime95, and a few pass prime95 and fail Linx, so it is very important to run both test. Plus I always run memtest 4.0 one set for every thread your CPU has, till at least 1000% on each test.
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 2:52pm |
thanks for the tips, going to have to start playing with my Vcore then in my free time. thank goodness I'm on break . by any chance, can you give me a link to LinX? I'm having a hard time finding the actual latest, stable version of it; too much gunk to sift through.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 2:58pm |
Setara
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Quote Reply Posted: 27 Dec 2010 at 3:21pm |
Can I ask where one goes to look for the latest version of linX?
I also kept looking and could not find it, I'm curious as to where the home page is or where you got that version from. |
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