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    Posted: 11 Mar 2013 at 6:28pm
Been looking at two different monitors..thinking about changing my samsung t240 out. between the Dell Ultrasharp U2412M or the  LG 27ea63v IPS led.  the resoultion on the 27 is 1920x1080.


http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2412M-LED-Monitor/dp/B005JN9310/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363051905&sr=8-1&keywords=ultrasharp

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005407

Is the image going to be sharper looking on the dell because of the higher resolution? i have seen the LG model in person and its very nice looking and it only has a 5ms response time. as for the dell it has an 8 and most ppl say its okay for gaming i have seen some ppl say they see ghosting. curious on peoples thoughts.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Mar 2013 at 11:05pm
Nobody here with a dell ultra shap sees ghosting I can tell you that.

Most important thing about a monitor is its panel, right now there are 2 major ones, TN and IPS, IPS has superior picture quality/clarity.

1. response time is a bs number, its there to fool you and does not represent the true response time of the monitor, there is no real way of truly finding what response time is, the closest to it is white to white but you don't see that, you see grey to grey or black to black cause they give small numbers to fool users but they don't mean anything, there are different methods to get these numbers also, and each will give a different number as results, therefore you can even compare one to the other, cause we don't know what method was used for which, and even if we did, still GTG or BTB don't mean anything.

2. contrast ratio is also bs number.

the led of Dell is going to be superior, it has a higher res because its a wide screen monitor, its also a class one lag monitor which means that its great for fps games. Keep in mind this panel is made by LG.

that lg monitor I know nothing about nor can I find anything on it, I would stay away from that monitor.

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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 7:12am
How much of an increase in temp do you think id get upgrading to the 27 ultrasharp? would it only be something very small not noticeable or will i see a good few degrees . my resolution now is 1920x1200.


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  Quote Tidgxor Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 9:56am
I went from a 20" 1920x1080 Ultra Sharp, to a 24" 1920x1200 Ultra Sharp with the 20" as a second monitor. I can't remember the exact temp increase that I got from going from 1920x1080 to (1920x1200 + 1920x1080) but It was not much. I thought I had it written down somewhere but I can't seem to find it, I think it was around 1.5-2.5C. I have SLI 580s. I do not game on both monitors, but the secondary monitor always has stuff pulled up on it while gaming.


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Mar 2013 at 11:32pm
In case of the led IPS 2713H the reveiws say:

The screen stays pretty cool during use although there is a little heat given off at the back near the top.


How much of a difference to be honest I never measured, but looks like Tidgxor has.
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 12:17pm
ended up getting the 24 ultrasharp...not happy with it at all.
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 12:35pm
You could try the Asus vh238h it has a 2ms response time but the input lag is like 7ms same as the Asus Vh236h which was really popular back when MLG was using it for games. The only difference between the two is the 238 is led backlit. I see no ghosting or lag and i see no backlight bleed. Some of the IPS panels suffer from IPS Glow which is probably what that is

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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 12:44pm
Yeah , im getting it switched out, new one coming tomorrow and ill see what happens. i was aware of the glow that happens with different viewing angles but this one had the bleeding while sitting straight at it.
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 12:47pm
ah well that sucks, hopefully the new one is perfect
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 1:20pm
Its the dell you have an issue with? which one did you get? dell is very good with replacing.

@Aw777

1. response time is a bs number, its there to fool you and does not represent the true response time of the monitor, there is no real way of truly finding what response time is, the closest to it is white to white but you don't see that, you see grey to grey or black to black cause they give small numbers to fool users but they don't mean anything, there are different methods to get these numbers also, and each will give a different number as results, therefore you can even compare one to the other, cause we don't know what method was used for which, and even if we did, still GTG or BTB don't mean anything.

Input lag you should never go by what the manufacture says.

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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

Its the dell you have an issue with? which one did you get? dell is very good with replacing.



i think he got the one that he posted a link to
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 1:27pm
LOL I can't which model that is.

and what IPS glow? I never see a glow lol.

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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

LOL I can't which model that is.

and what IPS glow? I never see a glow lol.


Dell UltraSharp U2412M and i meant the first link he posted in the beginning lol

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  Quote Tidgxor Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 1:30pm
Looks like the U2412M.

Definitely got some back-light bleeding issues from the looks of it, hopefully Dell was easy to work with. I've had great results with their support people in regards to monitors in the past.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 1:33pm
LOL missed the links in first post

Ya dell is great with monitor support.

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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 4:15pm
Yeah it was the U2412M, ill be getting a replacement sent today and ill receive it tomorrow. I also noitced on the bottom, right above the DELL logo, the bezel piece is very lose and comes away from the screen.  so hoping its all good tomorrow
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by kernols


How much of an increase in temp do you think id get upgrading to the 27 ultrasharp? would it only be something very small not noticeable or will i see a good few degrees . my resolution now is 1920x1200.


i run a 27inch ultrasharp at 1920x1400 not its native 2560x1440 and i hardly notice its heat. Best monitor ive ever owned. putting my hand on top of the monitor now. and its near room temp. which i keep at 68-70F year round
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 7:28pm
I have the u2413, u2410 u3011 and they have all been great right out of the box.
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 8:11pm
yeah im hoping this next one coming is great out of the box. ill keep you posted.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2013 at 10:28pm
Ya please do
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:14am
Well i received my new monitor today. i still have a small orangish glow coming from the top left. its not as bad as the previous and it doesn't really show up during anything except a pure black screen. ive done some looking around in forums and it seems its common with these. either a hit or miss.
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:34am
what model number is it? im running a U2711 27inch and ive never heard of the glow. Ive only heard of the ultrasharps shipping with dead pixels, and static lines across the screen.
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:37am
its the U2412M.  one second looks with the ambient light being darker right now..its still showing the glows in the same spot.
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:39am
ive never seen that before in an IPS monitor..... kind of reminds me of the early days of Flat panel TV's when some thing went wrong magnetically and gives off a faint green glow on a corner.
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:43am
Here is a pic of the replacement. it still shows the glow effect.
http://i48.tinypic.com/dlj4ti.jpg

I don't see it during any game play but its still annoying
Should i call again and get it replaced?


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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:47am
HELL YES! lol you payed money for a QUALITY product. Not a Quality product with orange glow on a black screen. Did they send you back the same monitor u had? or replace it?
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:50am
they replaced it..its almost an exact replica lol
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 12:02pm
ive heard of manufactures sending back the same product untouched, or "refurbished" and its like they never touched it. However i have to say this is a new issue to me. Also reminds me of the "OPOD" orange pixel of doom during the SWTOR betas lol.
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  Quote Tidgxor Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 12:04pm
That glow looks substantially diminished compared to your first image. I'd recommend experimenting with the brightness settings of the monitor to see if that helps. Some UltraSharps can be quirky out of the box, especially if they are refurbs, and thus need some fine-tuning in the settings. Others are A-Ok from day one and never need to be touched. At the end of the day, you need to be satisfied with your product, so if your not pleased, I'd call them again.
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 12:13pm
Yeah i ended up  calling and have another coming tomorrow..1 day shipping again. they are being great so ill just keep doing this lol. i went through 7 tv's before because of issues like this...i was pretty upset but like Solidus said im paying for a quality product. I played around with the settings for about 2 hours this morning..and nothing worked. i noticed with these monitors the brightness out of the box are way to high


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 12:17pm
You may have to do some adjusting, its different for everybody, I like mine bright for example.

I have never seen the glow before, it maybe to do with the u2412M, that is their lowest model 24".
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  Quote kernols Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 12:20pm
Yeah i have mine set around 35 brightness. came at 75.  also put contrast up and it looks great. just that damn orangish glow.
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 12:23pm
mine came in at 50 and i dropped it and the contrast to 45

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  Quote Tidgxor Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 12:23pm
I did some searching, you can a lot of people talking about blacklight bleeding issues with the U2412M, so hopefully you aren't troubled by it too much more. I have had any issues with the U2410, which is precisely why I have no intentions of changing it anytime soon. Smile
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