Monitor suggestions?Post Date: 2009-12-03 |
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CygnusX1 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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Cross posting from Hardware Discussion.
I'm looking into a monitor for my DS rig. Budget is a serious consideration, $600.00 or less is my budget. Some gaming, but my DS rig will be primarily for Photography processing and video editing.
I am presently interested in the HP LP2475W 24in LCD Monitor 1920X1200
Found at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/LP2475W-24in-LCD-Monitor-1920X1200/dp/B001FS1LLI/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
This is an "IPS" variant, "TFT", "16:10" monitor. All three of which is important in my choice of monitor.
Most monitors are consumer grade "TN" monitors that are typically just fine for most gamers and all normal home / business uses.
It appears that this monitor has or will be going out of production as I don't find it on the HP web site. Might explain why it's on sale.
It appears that the number of available 16:10 ratio monitors are getting less and less in favor of 16:9.
Anyone have any other suggestions for a monitor with the type of requirements that I am looking for that is $600.00 or less?
I would prefer a 16:10 monitor, but will concider 16:9 as long as it is a "IPS" "TFT" monitor. 1920x1200 is also preferred.
Anyone out there that also uses their DS computer for photography or video editing that can make any suggestions?
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Kyu ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 421 |
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I like my T260HD
![]() btw what's the ms on the HP LP2475W
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DST4ME ![]() DS ELITE ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
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when looking for a monitor, look for a monitor that has the same Viewing Angle, both vertical and horizontal, and is at or above 170°, this is a sign of a quality panel on a monitor, assuring great picture quality.
the hp you have listed has a great viewing angle, so as far as the panel goes, I say its a good one, and I think its ips. |
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satsunada ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 May 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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All monitors have weird tweaks on manufacturers and quality components. If I recall correctly, that particular model has some issue regarding where it was built. e.g. if it's built in china yay! if it's built in Mexico you will have problems...
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justin.kerr ![]() DS Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5084 |
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I have went through a lot of monitors, and the only one I have ever bought more than one of is the PLANAR PX2611W it is a bit higher than you were budgeting but it is a 26" ..usually find it for $700.00- $750. but they are very nice.
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CygnusX1 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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Thanks, I'll take a look at the T260HD. Responce time on the HP is 6ms.
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CygnusX1 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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As I recall the HP LP2475w is at 170. It is also IPS, which is the main reason I was looking at it considering the the sale price. About the lowest price I've found for an IPS in it's size.
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CygnusX1 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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Don't know about mfg orgin, but there are several reviews complaining about color shift cyan? to magenta left to right on the screen. Subtle, but noticeable to many. But, some reviews indicate it is a hit or miss. Apparently there is a batch of these as well and Dells using the same panel that have this problem. Possibly why the HP is on sale and appears that it may no longer be in production.
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CygnusX1 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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Thanks I'll take a look at it. But, the wife may not take so kindly to spending 700 - 750. I was hard pressed at first on getting her to accept spending nearly 3k on the DS rig! Maybe if I grovel at her feet!!!!! Yeah I'm whipped! I give her my checks, she pays the bills! Unfortunatey the checks are getting very light with this economy. Self employed is a mixed blessing!
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Kyu ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 421 |
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lol thats why check out the T260HD for its price it's not a bad monitor or hdtv at all.
for that price it's great ($329)
I bought one for 598.95 from bestbuy.
found another at fry's on sale for 399.99 so I bought another.
Have 2 now and it's still great, 1 is 8 months old and other is about an year old, Havn't had any problems or color fade
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DST4ME ![]() DS ELITE ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
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that monitor has a Vertical Viewing Angle: 150 degrees, Horizontal Viewing Angle: 170 degrees, that is not a sign of a good panel, I think its tn.
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Kyu ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 421 |
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that is true, but as long as you're sitting with it on your view it's fine. and when I checked alot of monitors with "height adjustment" also have similar view angles but they still put a higher number since it can be adjusted to move up and down.
I thought of it as 1 person using it straight on a sweet spot, the features and rest of the spec is great. if you tend to have friends sitting by you or behind you. I suppose it's not a very good monitor,
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DST4ME ![]() DS ELITE ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
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the viewing angle is not so that you have viewing angle, we use it as a filter to filter out cheap panels like tn panels.
if the viewing angle is not the same for both H and V, and is below 170° then this is a sign that the panel is a cheap panel and probably a tn panel, which means that the picture quality will not be that great at all. put a panel that has the same Viewing Angle, both vertical and horizontal, and is at or above 170°, and you will see a good difference in picture quality. here we like to advise good quality stuff, unless the member's budget limited then we let them know that for example this is a monitor he can get but its not the best out there. for the price he wants to spend, he should have/get a great monitor with a great panel. Edited by DST4ME - 07 Dec 2009 at 4:21pm |
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Kyu ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 421 |
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you'e right TN panels arnt that great, but now a days even bestbuys are mostly stocked on TN panels, mainly due to the cheaper cost. the average doesn't want to pay so much for a monitor at a small screen.
it'll be harder to find a s-pva , p-mva , s-ips which is what I think you're recommending for a price thats almost double tn panels.
tn panels got alot beter than before, they got brighter,faster,color become deeper.
it's common to see even video editors using multiple tn panels
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DST4ME ![]() DS ELITE ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
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no matter what tn panel does not have a quality of an ips or other panels, so at the end if you want a quality panel and have $600 to spend, you should get a good quality none tn panel, the HP he listed is ok and better then a tn panel.
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CygnusX1 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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DST4ME's points are valid and to the very issue that I am dealing with regarding my choices in monitors. Unfortunately due to
my budget considerations, I can't go high end on an IPS monitor such as some of the NEC, LaCie or similar higher end monitors.
So I am forced to try and stay under the $600.00 range. If I had to settle with the offerings of most of the more widely and lower
priced TN monitors that are available, then unfortunately I will have to wait until maybe my financial considerations are not such
an issue and continue to live with my monsterous twin 22" CRT's that are hogging up my work space. They have been sitting on
my desk for many many years, but it sure would be nice to get something with a bigger screen that took up less space yet
would produce as good or better image as my CRT's.
I cross posted the same original post over in the hardware forum and the guys over there are recommending the Dell U2410 Ultrasharp
which as it turns out uses the same LG panel as the HP that I first brought up. Unfortunately this means the Dell has the same hit
or miss issue concerning the color shift from left to right in the screen of cyan/green to magenta/pink. But the price is much better
than the HP LP2475W. So unless someone comes up with a better monitor suggestion that I have not run across yet, then I
either take a risk on the Dell or I shut up, sit on my CRT's for now and wait. UnfortunateIy one of the CRT's is dying and....
...I HATE WAITING!
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Kyu ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 421 |
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if it were up to me, I'd save up and buy what I'll be satisfied with regardless the cost. I feel it'll feel like more of a waste of mone if you pay for something you're not content with. especially if I have to stare at it everyday lol. I'll prbbly get more and more mad the more I stare at it. |
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DST4ME ![]() DS ELITE ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
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I agree, wait and get what you want
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CygnusX1 ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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Sometimes reality bytes!!!, but you guys ARE pointing out the reality that it would be best to wait a while. Your making my wife VERY HAPPY!
![]() Originally posted by DST4ME
I agree, wait and get what you want
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Kyu ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 421 |
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LOOL, yeah when i was stuck on if I wanted the new LED LCD or Plasma
My gf was happy that I decied to wait and save up, so she got her shopping.
she wasn't too happy once i finally had enough for my plasma + telling her I'm buying a new desktop 4 months after the plasma that's 5k or around there.
lol you're wife wont be so happy in a few weeks once you have enough
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