Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Why only 8GB?

Maybe I am missing the answer elsewhere, but why are configurations with:

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Enix Edition
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3  (Intel Z68 Chipset) (Features Intel Quick Sync Technology)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 2000MHz Corsair Dominator GT with DHX (High-Performance)

... limited to 8GB of RAM?

Thanks DGL.  Will do.
Perry


Edited by phorwich - 04 Dec 2011 at 5:29pm

Awesome answer JM299.  Thanks very much.

Edited by phorwich - 04 Dec 2011 at 6:11pm

From our perspective, a customer shouldn't be looking at 16GB of memory in a P67/Z68 based build. It's more of a mainstream/gaming build. If 16GB of memory is needed, a customer should consider the newer X79 chip set which features quad-channel memory.

I'm not aware of any ram limit of that platform other the fact that it supports 32GB of ram, asus has it listed as supporting that much.

What you guys see on the config page is just what DS wants to offer but we are not limited to that, we can request whatever parts we like, that is one of many things I like about DS, as they say "you dream it, we can build it".

Alex and DST4ME, thanks for all the excellent advice.  I now see that 16GB is a selectable option for that board :-)

I appreciate you pointing me toward the x79 chipset.  I think I may now do this: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=629727

Do you offer builds that take best advantage of an SSD on drive1 and HDD on drive2?  For example, can care be taken to install most of the software on drive2, and config swap files and the OS to use drive1 "out of the box?"

Thx DST, why did you change/pick that power supply?  Wasn't the "silent" 1000W enough?

DST,
Oh.  I see.
O.K., why just the air cooler and no H20 cooling here? 
And why no noise pkg?  I am irrationally concerned about a loud machine.

Some gaming, Yes.  Some software development.  I am configuring for longevity of system use too. 

I figure my next upgrade is to add a second identical GPU.  The $330 for what seems like ~ 30% "graphic throughput" with a single better card (GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB ) doesn't seem worth it to me today.  I expect I'll get great fps with this machine for a while.

Odd to learn that the air cool option is quieter than the lower end water cooling.  Thanks.  I wish they had an "Our quietest system component" option.  I'd make good use of such info.

Am not home now where I could check, but somewhere around 1600x1200X32

IF you mean 2 x 1600 x 1200 then your gpu setup is not great all and will fall short for gaming if you are gaming on one monitor, for possible 3D gaming setup you would want a totally different gpu setup.

you are not going to be able to tri sli with that psu.

Not looking for 100fps looking for smooth gaming (60fps on a 60Hz monitor).

for 3D your res is gonna be 1900 x 1200 and to get 30 fps you gonna need sli 580.

you can do sli 560 on that psu but not tri sli, if monitor is gonna get bigger you are better off with a 570 now and another later.

Edited by DST4ME - 09 Dec 2011 at 4:28pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate

Edited by phorwich - 09 Dec 2011 at 4:37pm

Ever play around here?:
http://frames-per-second.appspot.com/

I can see a difference between 30 and 60 fps with moving objects in particular. 
I also think I am 'sensitive' to peripheral flicker at rates below 60fps for static images. 

Most games playing at less than 60 fps will still sync to the screen refresh of your 60fps lcd monitor.  The results are, therefore, still pretty good at 30 fps imho.

Yes, 15 fps at 3D would suck.

As for a match between 30fps and 60 fps online, I don't think there is much difference.  While the 60fps might look nicer, your input lag will be keyed closely to your network latency.  I doubt your latency will be less than 33 ms, which would be the 1/30th of a second difference between 30fps and 60fps.  Try pinging your favorite server to see.  If you were playing on a LAN, well... even then the difference is pretty small and I expect anticipation and experience will play a bigger roll than reflex with a 33 ms time slice.

And so I say, "60fps does not have an advantage over 30fps when playing over the internet."  ... which is indisputable, given my winning online ways .

Just sayin'... with a big grin.

@phorwich, I'm giving you the facts, I understand your perception of how things are but you are mistaken, the difference between 30 and 60 fps is not lag on the net its your fps, you are moving thru the game slower.

I can assure you that you would not beat players of same experience level but with 60 fps vs your 30 fps.

again I know and understand ping, latency, distance to server, that server's upload/download speeds and etc but all of that is different then what we are talking about.

here is what guru3d says about it:

frames per second     
Gameplay

<30 FPS     
very limited gameplay

30-40 FPS     
average yet very playable

40-60 FPS     
good gameplay

>60 FPS     
best possible gameplay

So if a graphics card barely manages less than 30 FPS, then the game is not very playable, we want to avoid that at all cost.

With 30 FPS up-to roughly 40 FPS you'll be very able to play the game with perhaps a tiny stutter at certain graphically intensive parts. Overall a very enjoyable experience. Match the best possible resolution to this result and you'll have the best possible rendering quality versus resolution, hey you want both of them to be as high as possible.

When a graphics card is doing 60 FPS on average or higher then you can rest assured that the game will likely play extremely smoothly at every point in the game.

that guru, now you heard from me and covfam, and every other gamer will tell you the same thing.

Edited by DST4ME - 09 Dec 2011 at 5:50pm

You are right lag does not always mean its the gpu but it does 90% of the time.

when you say drop display parameters do you mean lower game settings? if yes well that will need less gpu power, so it proves gpu is the problem.


lets do that another way, lets add more gpu power to the raid situation and you will see the lag improve, showing the gpu power is the problem.

We have been gaming/doing this long enough to know where the bottleneck are and where the lags come from.

as you go higher in res, and your cpu is not your bottleneck, you will find in gaming gpu is your sourced of lag (not counting lag due to net connection, but being aware of them)


Edited by DST4ME - 12 Dec 2011 at 11:16am