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    Posted: 06 Jun 2008 at 2:41pm
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=154739

Hoping to build the best Gaming rig I can afford!
Playing currently World of Warcraft and
Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific on a Dell laptop M-65 Precision
look for less lag and more FPS
would enjoy any feed back
thank you

Also not sure if i want to have this rig overclocked by Digital Storm or leave it stock?

I will be ordering my Dream Rig from Digital Storm  vary soon.
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Only thing I'd change, w/o going too much higher in price, is the RAM.  Go with the 1066mhz RAM for 34 bucks more.

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Thank you
Nice catch $34 more and 1066MHz
i was hoping to upgrade the Ram to 4GB later 
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The audigy soundcard is a waste, it does not take any load off the cpu and onboard sound is actually quite good now.
 
I would either stick with the onboard or step up to one of the X-Fi cards.
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If you seriously plan on doing that keep in mind unless you go 64 bit it will be very little bang for the buck...

32 bit OS can only reference 4 gig including all overhead (Graphics card memory, operating system needs etc...)

with that beefy 768 MB graphics card you will be lucky to see 1 extra GB when you move from 2 GB to 4 GB

With 64 bit you will see it all.


Edited by Kliebor2 - 06 Jun 2008 at 5:12pm
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my personal suggestions:
 
reasons:
i love the processor, power supply, mobo, and case
 
id jack up to at least 2 gb @ 1066, 4 gb at 1066 is more than enough
 
i dont personally get the raptor craze, nor the RAID 0/1 stuff either, i think its a waste of coin and does little more than round up a benchmark score and cause problems. I have a 320wd from DSO, i really dont see how it could go any faster... "instant" isnt really a beatable timeframe
all this on top of the fact that you quadruple your storage space with little to no noticable change
 
went to 2 lightscribe drives, wether you use the features or not, these are SATA connections which will save a drastic amount of space inside, not to mention the cool bonus of cd/dvd burning and laser etching
 
stage 3 is a good idea for that case, i feel that you get the most value out of stage 3 cooling with the 850 due to its slots for 7 120mm fans.
 
i would have the processor and the ram overclocked for the obvious reasons
 
i think the 88gtx was a solid card in its reign, but its time is coming to a close, i feel that it would not be a smart decision to pick a card with a g80 at this point in the game
 
side notes:
id drop the benchmarking program, dont really see a point for it with 1 all the free ones and 2 if you are not overclocking or having DSO do it, you dont need them..
 
as earlier stated, if you order or plan to install more than 2gb ram, you need vista 64
 
drop the sound card completely
 
drop the enhanced airflow, if you get SATA optical drives, the option will serve no purpose
 
 


Edited by !ender_ - 06 Jun 2008 at 7:39pm
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get rid of the 8800 wait for the 200 seris
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You can direct download vantage from futuremarks website for 10 bucks cheaper.
 
Id say wait a month before you buy because 2 major things should be added to the DS lineup.
 
1 is the Velociraptor harddrive from WD. This drive is much better overall then the current raptor drives.
 
and the second is by a month time the new lineup from the major graphic makers ATI and Nivida should be out. Itd probably be worth the wait to see how good (bad) they are. Their release should drop the price of the older cards. But according to Alex on here the new GTX cards are "amazing" though who knows for sure.
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will World of warcraft play on a 64 bit OS?
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Originally posted by Deathwest

will World of warcraft play on a 64 bit OS?

 
Yes, it actually runs really welll on Vista 64.  Google search "vista 64 world of warcraft", lots of threads out there.
 
BTW, what realm are you on?


Edited by Wallyguitar - 07 Jun 2008 at 1:19pm

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The only comment I have to add is that I agree about the audigy soundcard being a waste. I have one from a previous pc and the onboard sound is much better, plus has a better s/n ratio. If you want better sound than onboard, go with an x-fi or asus xonar.
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Antonidas for WoW

have done a lot of homework on the Mobo, cpu, and, graphics cards
but never even looked in to the OS. I think XP is fine, but will
soon be outdated.

trying to stay a bit below 3g for the price tag.

all advice is helpfull

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http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=155054


This is a work in progress. I've been working a long time for
this computer and would like to do it right for the $$ I am spending.

I am liking the Cooler Master Cosmos S any thought as to which is
better over the Digital Storm 850Si

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Cosmos case and the S have been getting rave reviews.  Only negative thing that I've read about them was the weight.  It's not like you've got to hold onto the computer while gaming... 

I could have sworn I've read something on here about the 850Si case being subpar for air circulation, but don't quote me on that.
 
25 bucks more for the Cosmos S, I'd say go for it!


Edited by Wallyguitar - 07 Jun 2008 at 2:13pm

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Originally posted by Deathwest

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=155054
 
id still say drop the raptors, unless you are going to be editing a LOT of video/audio, you will see no difference, and its a costly investment
 
if youre going to a g92, at least get the 9800gtx as it is all the same and better than the 8800gts512 for $2 more
 
you mentioned assuming youll be adding 2gb ram later but its not going to be any cheaper/easier to do things that way, youd be best off getting it as a closed deal all under warranty with 4gb at 1066 as, (supposively), asus boards respond better to higher speed ram than tighter timings
 
as far as the case design goes, i have a personal attachment to the 850i, i just feel it covers all the bases and does the best job out there, the cosmos is also good, however its not how i would go if you plan on moving your completely steel 40lb emtpy case around much. also, believe it or not, it seems the cosmos tends to be more prone to damage from shipping, both from DSO and plenty of other places. just something to consider, both are very strong designs
ill mention, in regaurds to the stage 3 cooling, while the cosmos case layout is well done, it yeilds only 4 120mm slots to the stacker's 7. yes, having a custom 200mm fan on the cosmos is nice, but you can not upgrade/sidegrade it and you dont have to be a genius to do the math that 3 120mm fans > 1 200mm fan as far as total airflow goes
 
unless you are planning to OC yourself, i see no reason to pick stage 3 or even a case as big as you have, you just dont need that much cooling for stock run parts
 
finally, i saw the option you chose to get a stock ms keyboard and mouse with this beast. i personally feel like that would be putting civic tires on a lambo, but its just my thought
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The Cosmos S isnt THAT heavy, plus id say even if it is heavier then the 850 itd still be easier to move around thanks to those bars on it. Ive heard changing numbers on how many fans it can hold anywhere from 5 to 7.
 
My computer being shipped currently is only 52lbs according to fedex.


Edited by SunfighterLC - 07 Jun 2008 at 3:42pm
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The original Cosmos has less fans than the Cosmos S.
The only thing that keeps me wishing on a wishing star.
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here is what i got for $2799
 
Digital Storm Desktop 57380 1
Case: Digital Storm 850Si (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 1000W SilverStone Strider (Dual SLI Compatible) (Model: ST1000) (Silent)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 780i Core 2 Quad (nForce 780i SLI)
Memory: 4GB DDR2 Corsair at 1066MHz Dominator DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9800GX2 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Motherboard Multi-Channel High Definition Audio
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Zalman Case Fans)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)
Overclock Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Overclock Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Corsair Dominator Airflow Fan Upgrade)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support
 
 
Sub-Total: $2,799.00
Tax: $0.00
Shipping: $0.00
Grand Total: $2,799.00
 
And yes, WoW plays just fine on vista 64 bit. As far as the onboard sound, I have heard things with the onboard sound that i never heard with my audigy card in my old rig, I think the onboard sound is fantastic if youre just gaming. Im on the cenarion circle server  :)


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http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=155143

This should do ? lol
I also do Autocad and 3D studio from time to time but gaming will
be 1st on the list for this rig. Have built a few computers in my time.

Looking forward to putting the work on Experts this time.Thumbs%20Up
Also will be getting a WoW gaming keyboard and Mouse later
just need the cheap one tell then
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I am not certain of the Open GL scores for the 9800GTX, but 3D CAD programs can be too much for even the most powerful of gaming cards depending on the application. You may have to consider a second, workstation type GPU. But this depends. I have limited experience with CAD/CAM, but this is something I think you will really want to discuss with DSO when placing your order.
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i use 3ds max, vegas video, and photoshop all extensively on my rig, all of which run perfectly
i doubt youd need a workstation for any such use
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With respect !ender, those are not CAD programs. I have used a 3D CAD/CAM program on my system, and can tell you that it struggles when generating a 3D representation of tool paths. The OP's uses may be well within the capabilities of a standard gaming GPU, but it really can't hurt to ask the pros when placing the order.
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Cadcam mostly stresses the processor with calculations unless you are trying to dynamically resize, move and therefore replot all the points in the image.

So while you may not get the tremendous high speed spinning models you might with a true high end card designed for cad, for most all purposes except the most demanding high end cad systems running at incredibly high resolutions with billions of points to calculate and display high end gaming graphics cards should at least not completely choke.

The real issue is accurate rendering of polygons from what I understand, but most modern cards handle that fairly well and from what I can dig up on the autocad groups unless your design is very complex the differences/artifacts of the CAD process are minimal.


Edited by Kliebor2 - 10 Jun 2008 at 5:57am
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Rotating the image is exactly where I had issues Kliebor. It made checking tool paths for clearances a real pain in the butt. The nature of the toolpaths I was calculating may have had something to do with this. A two thousandths step over generates one heck of alot of information that has to be recalculated on the fly when you are rendering complex shapes. This is my direct experience with it. Again, I defer to the folks that build these systems and have put together workstations for dedicated CAD work.
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Thanks to everyone for your input.Clap
For better or worst here is my Rig I am vary happy with the build.
Hope I will be just as happy when it gets here.

Chassis: Digital Storm 850Si
Exterior Finish: Enhanced Interior Air Flow (Optical Drive & Floppy Cables (Blue Cables)
Interior Finish: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs
/Manuals)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage Formula (Chipset: Intel X48) (Supports CrossFire)
System Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 1066MHz Dominator DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Card Reader: 1.44MB Floppy (Black Edition)
Hard Drive 1: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX 512MB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Zalman Case Fans)
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: LCD Temperature Display & Fan Controller
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Gaming Mouse (High-Speed Gaming Grade)
External Storage: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

Ordered it on the 13th I am still in stage 5, that started on the 24th

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.
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Sounds like a great system to me, it will certainly make most games behave quite well :)
Digital Storm 950Si - Q9450 Quad Core @ 3 Ghz
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looks awesome, that machine is going to tear sh*t up
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Now its all a waiting game.
Stage 5 and holding.
I can not wait to see how the overclock goes.
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