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Post Date: 2010-08-30
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    Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 11:45am
That's a lot of money so I want to get it right. Please help identify anything I should change or correct...

Total Price with Instant Savings: $3,781.00

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932 (Black Edition: Internal Black Paint Job)
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series  (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X-25V Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 6: Sub-Zero LCS Dual Loop: CPU & Dual SLI/CrossFire Video Cards
H20 Tube Color:White Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
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Posts: 34 		  Quote nauticus66 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 11:49am
I don't know if I should stick with 1 480 and a 750w PS and loose the liquid cooling in exchange for Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler or go ahead and save some money and splurge on the extreme... how much more performance will it give me?
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Posts: 47 		  Quote Beezie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 11:56am
Noctua dual 120 can cool your computer just fine with those spec`s if you dont really want LC cooling you can save some there




Edited by Beezie - 30 Aug 2010 at 12:24pm
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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 12:13pm
definitely not worth it to change anything for the 6 core chip.. it wont help your gaming in the least. if you dropped the 2nd video card and went to an extreme chip you would only decrease your gaming power.
 
im sure you know that you dont need liquid cooling, but obviously that is preference
the build looks good to me if thats what youre looking to spend, there are no silly mistakes or anything if thats what you were asking
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Posts: 2247 		  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Beezie

Edited: NH-D14 dont fit that motherboard :p

The Noctua NH-D14 fits on the EVGA x58 LE just fine. The one it does not fit on is the earlier and more expensive EVGA x58 3X SLI.
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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Beezie

Noctua dual 120 can cool your computer just fine with those spec`s if you dont really want LC cooling you can save some there

Edited: NH-D14 dont fit that motherboard :p
 
both the nocua u12p and 14 fit the evga LE
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Posts: 47 		  Quote Beezie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by Dragoonseal

Originally posted by Beezie

Edited: NH-D14 dont fit that motherboard :p

The Noctua NH-D14 fits on the EVGA x58 LE just fine. The one it does not fit on is the earlier and more expensive EVGA x58 3X SLI.

ah ok that explains itChilling


Edited by Beezie - 30 Aug 2010 at 12:24pm
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both the nocua u12p and noctua 14 fit the evga LE
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Posts: 34 		  Quote nauticus66 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 1:36pm
Ender, in your write up you suggested that if someone were to get dual 480'S to water cool them before you liquid cool the CPU, Are you saying even with dual cards I don't need liquid cooling? Cuz I'd be saving almost 500 bucks. Liquid cooling looks cool but if I can save 500 good bye LC lol.

In the configuration choices they provide, the only one with cooling for both cards and the CPU was the stage 6.

 Ender I'm kinda plagiarizing your 2k plus build here so my question to you is how much of a difference will I see in my gaming (Age of Conan boss fights are hard on systems) between your 1 480 card build and a 2 480 card build? is it the difference between seeing 100+ fps and 50 fps or more like a machine barely ticking over versus a machine getting pushed. Or does it just boil down to bragging rights?
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OK let me do this the right way...
1) Monitor size: 22" Acer
2) Budget: 3k tops
3) whether you will use any equipment from your last computer on the new computer: I only need the tower.
4) General uses to be done on the computer: Gaming 90% internet, music etc. 10%) I can be on line gaming for 5+ hrs.

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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 1:57pm
theres no setup that needs water cooling, its not technically a luxury becuase it can help you improve performance with higher overclocks, but its never a requirement, if you want to overclock the crap out of the cards, LC will keep it cool and quiet, but other than that, the gains are not very cost effective
 
Yes and No - the gains from SLI are very substantial, nothing to be argued with, but it depends on what game youre talking about... for example, mw2 caps fps at 90, period.. so an sli setup on that game would show no difference (maybe a difference at a high resolution becuase it should have a higher minimum fps than just one card)
 
but on a newer or tougher game like metro2033, the gains will be obvious. the increase wouldnt be double (like 50 vs 100 fps), closer to 60-80% gains, depending on the game
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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 1:58pm
no need to start over, you were mostly right, maybe just overzealous on the cooling. liquid is nice to keep overclocked GPUs cool and quiet, but if youre building a gaming only system, you dont need to overclock dual 480s
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Posts: 34 		  Quote nauticus66 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 6:23am
OK I've refined my build a bit...

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Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932 (Black Edition: Internal Black Paint Job)
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series  (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X-25V Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Green) (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green)
Enhancements: Touch  V12XT Aerocool Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Install/Test Game: Age of Conan (Pre-Install, apply updates, and test gameplay with my system)
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Xtra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
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That's very similar to what I'll be getting :)
But...green? :P
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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 9:21am
nauticus did you read the posting guide linked in my signature?
 
definitely avoid the fan upgrade, the haf cases already have good cooling
and probably best to avoid the os tweak, win 7 is already optimized pretty freaking well, most of the other stuff they could change would be preference and could limit some of your uses depending on what you do
 
plus i bet they leave the backup and indexing which are the main resource drains of 7 that i remove first
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Posts: 34 		  Quote nauticus66 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 10:18am
Ya I read your guide which is what I was basing things on, I was debating on the fan upgrade but thought the green fans would look cool... lol its an easy scratch off. The tweeks I was wondering at cuz I usually don't worry about that too much but DS was offering it free so... maybe they know something I don't... 
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Posts: 34 		  Quote nauticus66 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 10:19am
so how would this machine fair in BFBC2 or COD4? or crysis?
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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 10:23am
its true you could gain from what they change, and if you dont do much but game its probably ok
 
the green led fans would look cool but they are all 120mms which means a significant noise increase over the stock fans, so thats your choice
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Posts: 34 		  Quote nauticus66 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 10:18am
EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) is no longer in DS mobo list when you go to customize a configuration.
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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 10:34am
thats correct EVGA has discontinued this and is now selling the similarly priced evga SLI 3, which is an improved revision
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Posts: 34 		  Quote nauticus66 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 10:50am
So does that mean the Noctura dh14 is no longer a viable option on my build given that the description says it won't fit the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI
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Posts: 4219 		  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Sep 2010 at 11:24am
i dont see either board mentioned on this list
so we will have to hear from DSO on that one
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