My First Computer BuildPost Date: 2008-09-16 |
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MrNanite 
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 Topic: My First Computer BuildPosted: 16 Sep 2008 at 12:38pm |
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MAN!!! That's such a *HUGE* case for such a tiny motherboard. Compensating for something? hehehehehehe
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 12:42pm |
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Harleyman, I would suggest a 120mm CPU cooler. Get a Xigmatek HDT 1283, lap the surface of the contact patch, and use the optional bolt down kit and you'd be looking at temperatures rivaling many liquid cooling kits(seriously). Just make sure your case is wide enough (about 9 in)
Also- before you get too far along in the build, if you did not remove all motherboard heatsinks, and replace the crap factory thermal interface material they use with something decent like MX-2 ceramique, now is the time to do that. You will thank me when you get to the overclocking.
 Bah. I'm too late.  Edited by Tyler Lowe - 16 Sep 2008 at 12:44pm |
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SunfighterLC
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 12:46pm |
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WELCOME TO THE DUAL CORE CLUB!!!!! Now admit it!!! Dual Core >>>>>> Quad Core
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 12:59pm |
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It's not a "bad" heatsink, but it is a 92mm design mounted with pushpins. DSO uses them because they're easy to install, relatively effective for the price and ship well due to their low weight. It performs well considering, but the design has limitations. There are definitely better heatsinks availble if you don't have to worry about shipping a system cross country. Some test results . There's nothing wrong with the direction you took, but if/when you do look at cooling upgrade, consider a high performance air cooler while you're looking over the water kits.
 I'm very happy to see you're getting the performance you wanted at last. I wonder if the affinity settings you were using with the quad core rigs had anything to do with your stability issues.
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MrNanite
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 12:59pm |
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You finally got it to work, huh? Darn. And here I thought *all* computers didn't like you.
So... what did you promise it? A dusting every weekend? A primo silkscreening on the outside?
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Costone
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:02pm |
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Looking good H-Man!
btw I'm averaging 60-70fps in FS9 and around 40-50 FSX (over airport addons and Manhattan scenery). Let's take this discussion over to the sim forum...I'll put up some screens later! Edited by Costone - 16 Sep 2008 at 1:04pm |
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MrNanite
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:17pm |
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Still compensating.
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Nomak
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:20pm |
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I spotted a pink bunny.
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MrNanite
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:23pm |
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I thought it was pink elephants? Or is that just when you're drinking?
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MrNanite
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:27pm |
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I've had mine for a while... the battery ran out a LONG time ago. I guess their batteries aren't all they're cracked up to be all the time.
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:33pm |
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Not trying to poke an open wound brother, I just find it odd that you're running so well with a C2D after so many issues with a C2Q. Good luck with the rest of the build. I hope you hit your goals with that OC.
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MrNanite
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 1:36pm |
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 Oh... poke away. He secretly likes it. 
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Costone
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:02pm |
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...core 2 duo/Core 2 quad
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DST4ME
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 2:34pm |
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looks nice HM
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SunfighterLC
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 3:43pm |
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I believe the E86 has a x10 multiplyer vs the E85s 9.5. Running at the stock 333 FSB. You can easily get the FSB set to 400 using even auto settings unless you have a bad chip. That would get you an even 4.00 Ghz.
Though i suppose if you wanna start with 3.6 you can do that too...thats only a 360 FSB. But im saying you can easily get it to 400 using auto settings. |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 5:20pm |
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very nice HM.
If you listen hard enough you can almost here the system cry for 2 more cores 
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Lawdog
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 5:21pm |
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Glad you finally got a system to play FSX the way you want HM
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DST4ME
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 5:47pm |
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Hey man if you got what you need, don't change it.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 6:05pm |
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LOL I'm sure you will get that, will you build that yourself or try DS?
is fs better with sli or crossfire HM? Edited by DST4ME - 16 Sep 2008 at 6:06pm |
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Sneakerz
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 6:26pm |
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Very nice HM! I'm glad to see things are working out. I knew you just couldnt leave the computer scene =). I wish I had the time/money to tinker with and build my own computer.
If I had someone to turn to when I screwed up I would do it. But I can just hear the wife yelling at me now, "You wasted all that money on these parts and you can't even put it together"
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Kelly
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 6:50pm |
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when's the eta for release on FSXI
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widdlecat
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 8:01pm |
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Congratulations Mason! You finally get to do your flying! That's a good thing! I hope your rig keeps on running well for you!
I'm with sneakers... I might try to build my own if I knew someone who could undo my mistakes.. LOL! The mom has this habit of seeing me all frustrated and messing up and then taking over and making things worse...  |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 8:11pm |
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LOL after a few HM, its just like changing your own breaks, at first it all fun and worth it, after a while you rather pay somebody else do it
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DST4ME
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 8:46pm |
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Yes exactly, now watch that excitement feeling turn into a pain in the arse feeling
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DST4ME
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 10:34pm |
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yes but learning something else is not building PCs
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 11:20pm |
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A little odd, yes. I don't really have any experience at all with FSX, but I thought I remembered you saying something about wanting the clocks on your system to get at least 3.6 GHz in order to run the game smoothly. There was also a thread were you were talking about how the quad distributed the load for air traffic and weather between the cores and that was one of the things that made for a good experience with the game. So I was a little bit surprised to see that not only had you gone with a dual core, and that you were having such good luck with it. If 3.3 GHz is enough to push the game smoothly with a CD2, maybe I'll give it a shot and pick up a copy of it myself.
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workingman
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 8:19am |
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 I was just too impressed with the performance of HM's rig and the price..(dirt cheap) and I will be able to upgrade chips...cooling..whatever may come my way.....HM is one hell of a guy to come up to the hillbilly hills to help me..God Bless you HM...I cant thank you enough..Sincerely , Workingman
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MrNanite
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 8:30am |
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Well, you know the rule of hardware don't you?
The moment you create a bigger system, someone will figure a way to build software to use it all up.
Of course, that leads to one of the major rules of software:
The moment you build software to use up a system, someone will come up with a bigger system to put it on.
Ain't it funny how these two wind up being cyclic?
Trust me HM... You *will* be putting more money into it... eveutally.
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MrNanite
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 2:28pm |
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Just *one* monitor? One two or three? Heck... if I had my way, I'd get one of those 6-way monitor consoles. That way, I can read my Internet News, check my Email, play my games on a couple of them... maybe still have some left over for some picture viewing.
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SunfighterLC
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 3:11pm |
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Why do people like multi monitors? Im always bugged by them, id rather have one large 28''+ vs 2 22s or something along those lines.
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MrNanite
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 3:12pm |
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Ahh... Was wondering if you had gone soft on us HM.
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SunfighterLC
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 3:39pm |
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Ah that makes sense then. I dont really play any games where having a second monitor would do much help other then maybe displaying a mini map...
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MrNanite
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 3:40pm |
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And besides... HM's poor old-man eyes need more room to see all those funny little things we like to call numbers and letters.
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MrNanite
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Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 10:41am |
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What do they look like? Coke bottle bottoms?
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MrNanite
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Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 2:50pm |
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Well, some might say that is an improvement.
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