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  Quote biLLythek1d Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: My new final config?
    Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 11:20am
Alright, after much thought and research, here is what I think might be my final config.  Let me know what you guys think.  I appreciate your expert advice.  I have a little over $2k to spend.

Ticket Number: 258895
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,504.00 (before final $175 rebate)

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=258895

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: CLEARANCE HOT SELLER: ASUS P6T Deluxe (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Dual SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Cooler Master V8 (Compatible With i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

my thoughts,
1) i chose the asus mboard because I don't ever plan on upgrading to tri-sli and it got great reviews on newegg
2) i chose the 750w power supply as i only plan on using 1 video card at a time and usually only have 2 hard drives, i usually wait a couple of 1-2 years to upgrade the video card, and then get a whole new card
3) i chose the gtx 285 b/c i think it is the right price/performance for my needs, i play fps/rts games on a 22" monitor (might upgrade to a 24" in a couple on months)

what do you guys think?  thanks again for the advice
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  Quote Perlife Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 1:23pm
This Config is a little bit more than your original config, but its more future proof which means you can upgrade.

Ticket Number: 259026
Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Mushkin (Highly Recommended) (Digital Storm Certified)
Power Supply: 1000W Silverstone OP1000-E (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Cooler Master V8 (Compatible With i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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Ticket Number: 259027
Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Mushkin (Highly Recommended) (Digital Storm Certified)
Power Supply: 1000W Silverstone OP1000-E (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Cooler Master V8 (Compatible With i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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  Quote Perlife Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by biLLythek1d


1) i chose the asus mboard because I don't ever plan on upgrading to tri-sli and it got great reviews on newegg

Even tho you are yyou dont want to upgrade to tri SLI is always good to have those extra pci slots so you can put something else on it like a TV Turner, a Raid Card, Sound Card etc.
Originally posted by biLLythek1d


2) i chose the 750w power supply as i only plan on using 1 video card at a time and usually only have 2 hard drives, i usually wait a couple of 1-2 years to upgrade the video card, and then get a whole new card

Thats a good plan, but if you stay with the 750W PS then when you ready to upgrade your GPU, you will also need to upgrade your PS
Originally posted by biLLythek1d


3) i chose the gtx 285 b/c i think it is the right price/performance for my needs, i play fps/rts games on a 22" monitor (might upgrade to a 24" in a couple on months)what do you guys think?  thanks again for the advice

If you are going to upgrade to a 24" then you need two GPUs (2x285) or (1x295)
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  Quote Sodius Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 2:51pm
Both of you have great builds, Perlife is correct with the easier upgradablility. For using a 24" you should go with either the 295 or 2 x 285's. Keep us posted on your decision. Ermm
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I have a 24 inch at 1920 X 1200 with the 295 and it is absolutely perfect for maxing out eye candy in games like World at War & Warhead!
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 7:25pm
bill you already had a thread open here and been answered http://www.digitalstormonline.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=6247&KW=

I'm not sure what is the point of opening a new thread and asking the same question again.

try to keep on one thread unless you have a new subject, otherwise it will get confusing
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  Quote biLLythek1d Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2009 at 10:03pm
OK, so I took your advice.  Here is my new layout.  A little more than I wanted to spend, but oh well such is life.  Do you guys agree that I will get better performance from upgrading from a 285 to a 295 vs. 3gb to 6gb ram?  That is my biggest question as I cannot afford both.  And, yes I finally broke down and decided to ante up for the 1000w PS.  Anything else you would change?  Thanks again.

Price: $2425 (after all discounts)
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 3GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 1000W Silverstone OP1000-E (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Cooler Master V8 (Compatible With i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Mar 2009 at 11:57pm
biLLythek1d, that looks great to me, however 1TB drives are a pain in the arse to manage, they take a long time to search, scan, etc, go with a 500GB and then go with a better drive later on if you like speed.
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  Quote Perlife Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Mar 2009 at 1:57am
biLLythek1d
stay with the GTX 295 GPU.
you can add more ram later on.
Change the 1TB to a 500GB, like DST4ME said "1TB drives are a pain in the arse to manage, they take a long time to search, scan, etc"
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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Mar 2009 at 11:12pm
The 1tb drives are not slower than the 500gb drives.  They are using the same platter sizes if they are all the newer disks...they come from the same line.  The difference is that one has more platters than the other, thus increasing storage.  If anything, the bigger ones are faster as a result.  My 1tbs are the best disks I've owned, they are just as fast as my 74gb 10k raptors and store a ton.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/3.5-hard-drive-charts/benchmarks,24.html

As far as your question of the vid card vs the ram, there is a better solution.  Get them both and save the 100 bucks or so dropping down to the 750watt psu.  You do NOT need more than that with a single video card setup.


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 12:28am
Nobody said the 1TB is slower, we said the 1TB takes longer to scan, you go ahead and scan a 1T drive with 750GB data and I will scan a 500GB drive with 350GB of data, lets see who finishes first.

people need to upgrade later as the years go on, the 1000w insures you can easily upgrade without having to spend more money on psu.

show me how your 1TB drive has the same seektime as a veloci raptor, which is the most important in games.

A 1TB drive has an avarage read speed of 90MB/s
A 300GB veloci has an avarage read speed of 102MB/s

A 1TB drive has an avarage write speed of 90MB/s
A 300GB veloci has an avarage write speed of 101MB/s

and veloci wins the seektime.

last the 500GB is being picked temporary, till the vertex 2 comes out then it will be used for OS while the 500GB will be used as storage.

a 1TB 7200rpm HDD next to a vertex 2 will look like a joke

Edited by DST4ME - 17 Mar 2009 at 12:48am
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Thats for you DST4ME.  You beat me to those stats lol.
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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 1:50am
"Nobody said the 1TB is slower, we said the 1TB takes longer to scan, you go ahead and scan a 1T drive with 750GB data and I will scan a 500GB drive with 350GB of data, lets see who finishes first."  --that is irrelevant to anything.  if u have 750 gb u need the 1tb anyways, and both would scan 350gb in about the same amount of time.  furthermore, who cares how long it takes to scan an entire drive surface; something you'd go afk for probably regardless of what drive you had.  ** perhaps you are instead referring to a different situation entirely, like searching the drive for a file or folder. i would then mention that windows vista uses an indexing system and searching my 1tbs which contain ~650gb takes very little time.**

"show me how your 1TB drive has the same seektime as a veloci raptor, which is the most important in games.

A 1TB drive has an avarage read speed of 90MB/s
A 300GB veloci has an avarage read speed of 102MB/s

A 1TB drive has an avarage write speed of 90MB/s
A 300GB veloci has an avarage write speed of 101MB/s"
--~11% performance gain for double the cost, little surprise?  this is not the drive he was considering anyways.  the velociraptor should dominate the seeks, as it is a 2.5 inch enterprise drive which is optimized for io.  furthermore, i did not reference my 1tb to the new velociraptor.  it can clearly be seen that i mentioned a 74gb 10k raptor.

--it's fascinating that you reference the 300gb raptor.  why not the 150gb? after all, it's bigger and therefore by your same logic of 500gb vs 1tb then you would surely recommend the 150gb?  ah yes, the bigger drives actually provide better performance in almost all situations...the quickest mechanical drives are the highest capacity 15k sas solutions ~450gb.

--my oced quad core with 6 high output case fans, 4hdds, and a 4870 draws under 300watts from the wall when stress tested.  how ppl waste money on 1k+watts psus without endless monetary resources is beyond my comprehension


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 2:11am
the veloci beats the 15sas in read and write average speeds.

that 11% you are talking about is every happening every second, thats 86400 times a day its 11% faster, anybody can do a little math and thats around 864000MB/s a day a veloci will move more then a 1TB HDD.

I don't see how the time it takes a virus scanner to scan my drive is irrelevant.

while you are waiting for your huge 1TB drive to finish scanning the rest of us are done scanning and can go about our business.

If I wanted to backup a 1TB HDD it would take me so much longer then a 300GB veloci.

maybe your time is not important, some of us have better things to do with our time.

veloci has a higher average read time, higher max read time and even higher minimum read time

veloci has a higher average write time, higher max write time and even higher minimum write time

veloci has a much faster seektime.

but like I said its not even about the veloci anymore its about vertex 2 now.

what is right for you is not right for the rest of us, your 4870 would be of no use to me, it can't even keep up with a 8800 gts in folding for example.

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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 2:45am
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/3.5-hard-drive-charts/Average-Read-Transfer-Performance,658.html --top performer, wd velociraptor 300gb, 102mb/s

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/enterprise-hard-drive-charts/Average-Read-Transfer-Performance,701.html --top performer, 15k 450gb, 141mb/s.  this is why it costs way more money, it's better in all regards.  you couldn't be more wrong saying that the velociraptor is better.  you either had no idea what you were talking about or refuse to submit to the idea of being incorrect about something.

--should i extrapolate how much more MB in a day it can xfer than a velociraptor?...lol

--a 4870 is significantly better than an 8800 in games.  did you buy your graphics card to contribute to the folding computing cloud or play games?  which is this guy buying his computer for?  the products are different, it should come as no surprise that a product from nvidia is better at something in particular than an ati product.

--the time my computer spends at 6am on sunday scanning my hard drive is not important to me.  i wouldnt care if it was 10^10gb of data, i'm asleep.


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lol how much does that sas 450GB cost

still no match for vertex 2 580MB/s read 450MB/s write

Originally posted by aceking

a 4870 is significantly better than an 8800 in games. did you buy your graphics card to contribute to the folding computing cloud or play games? which is this guy buying his computer for?


thats the point, now you gonna tell me how to use my PC? you stick to your system I stick to mine, still that does not make a difference that in folding an 8800 gts smokes a 4870

Originally posted by aceking

the time my computer spends at 6am on sunday scanning my hard drive is not important to me. i wouldnt care if it was 10^10gb of data, I'm asleep.
again we don't live in your world, so our needs and priorities are different, you want to waste your time and money on a 1TB go ahead, some of us have better things to do with our time and money, then to wait god knows how long for a 1TB drive to get done scanning, searching, backing up, I can't fall a sleep during those things, and my time is way more important to me.

what is good for you is good for you, its got nothing to do with the rest of us, its got nothing to do with the fact that a 1TB is not faster or the same speed of a veloci or any of that.

just because you like your 1TB and don't care how your time is spent, does not mean the 1TB drive is the best drive in the world or that the rest of us spend our time the same way you do.

you stick to your 1TB I will stick to my raptor and soon to come vertex 2, which a 1TB drive can't touch.

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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:18am
That chart shows the 15k.1.  Fortunately, it's only 5 generations behind the current15k.6 models and does not come close in comparison.  Perfect to use as your example to the greatness of a drive designed for cost effective consumer sata2 performance such as the WD velociraptor as the best magnetic drive evar.  Touche.

It does matter what you use a graphics card for.  If somebody was using CAD, they don't buy a gaming card.  If they are gaming, they don't buy a workstation card unless they intend to beat their head into the wall.  Intended use dictates what you buy, no, i couldn't possibly care less what you use your particular card for.

Curious, you mention "you stick to your 1TB I will stick to my raptor and soon to come vertex 2, which your 1TB drive can't touch." and also "lol how much does that sas 450GB cost ", because the relative price difference between a Vertex 2 & a 1tb versus a velociraptor and a 15k.6 would not be so different. One is gold and the other is lead apparently though.  Is the OCZ vertex 2 small, thin, and fast enough to fold up and  replace the multiple hundred dollar bills that flew out of your wallet when you buy it as well?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:26am
you notice how you couldn't prove that 1TB is just as fast as a veloci so you have now moved to sas.

we have no idea how much a vertex 2 is gonna cost yet you already know that price differnce between veloci and sas is the same as sas and vertex 2? not only is that funny but its also wrong.

also my chart was not to show sas performance. the subject is 1TB vs veloci.

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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:33am
"...furthermore, i did not reference my 1tb to the new velociraptor.  it can clearly be seen that i mentioned a 74gb 10k raptor." --the subject was never velociraptor vs 1tb until you tried to make it that.  it was never what i said.  i dont have a velociraptor, that comparison cannot be made by me.  you fail to read carefully. 

(this is just in case u didnt read, i quoted an earlier post mentioning the drive, a 74gb 10k --note-- raptor...not velociraptor)

--the vertex 2 isn't going to revolutionize and completely change the landscape of ssd pricing overnight.  ssds have a particular cost, and it can be determined

"the veloci beats the 15sas in read and write average speeds"  --velociraptor vs 15k drive is for which is the fastest drive.  i quoted u previously as saying veloci was the fastest drive available.  it is certainly not.


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:40am
Now we come to the real deal, I was waiting for that, how every nice of you to pointout that when you said 1TB is as fast as your 74GB raptor, that its the old raptor and not the current one in the config page. who is talking about outdated stuff again?

sounds like you are not familiar with vertex 2 let along its price, so don't be a politition and dance around the subject

we don't know the price so please don't say you know the price or that you can calculate it

unless you want to say how much it will cost and then back it up with a $500 dollor bet

again nobody said anything was gonna revolutionize anything but well played like a true politician as you said yourself, I just said it would smoke your 1TB, your sas and it would, its not even close.

have a great day

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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:51am
lol well, if u ever removed your lips from slurping the ass juice of an inferior velociraptor vs 15k sas, you would perhaps familiarize yourself with hard drives.  what you have is not the best, the best is the 15k sas.  if it was not better, it would not be made as its far more expensive and requires an sas controller. the reason why ppl buy ssd vs magnetic even though it costs more is because it is better.  the superiority can and is measured in these cases.

you are an absolute narcissistic fool, and it's pathetic.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:59am
OK well first of all I never said that the veloci was better then 15k sas I said vertex was. which it is as far as gamers go. we were discussing speed.

are you gonna take us to a journey of server based HDDs now?

you started out comparing a 1Tb to a your old raptor, without mentioning its the old raptor and now here we are with you twisting my words and talking about sas.


as for your comment toward me, I think it speaks volumes about yourself and me not engaging in that kind of behavior says something about me.

I mean if you can't handle a discussion you started yourself, there is only one person to get mad at, and thats not me.

We are just discussing HDDs, why you have to get resort to name calling is beyond me, if you don't agree say you don't agree.

I'm not sure where you got offended but it was not my intention to offend you, if I have I apologize.

I will try the nice way again,

have a great day boss.

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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 4:38am
"the veloci beats the 15sas in read and write average speeds" & "OK well first of all I never said that the veloci was better then 15k sas I said vertex was"--ok...well you did indeed say it

"without mentioning its the old raptor"--if you don't know what a 74gb raptor is, you are uninformed.  the veliraptor is 150gb or 300gb

--saying how you're not saying something...it can hardly get more passive aggressive.  you only attempt to put down others in a backhanded way in all threads i've noticed when you disagree with somebody.  this is compounded by YOUR belief that you are always self righteous and that THEY are always the aggressor and wrong.

**seek help:**
Narcissistic rage is a reaction to narcissistic injury (when the narcissist feels degraded by another person). When the narcissist's grandiose sense of self worth is perceivably being attacked by another person, the narcissist's natural reaction is to rage and pull-down the self worth of others (to make the narcissist feel superior to others). It is an attempt by the narcissist to soothe their internal pain and hostility, while at the same time rebuilding their self worth.

Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone. To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It’s believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath. Two specific identified forms of narcissistic rage are explosive and passive-aggressive.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 4:42am
you have some interesting point of views, which I totally disagree with, but you have a right to your perceptions.

if saying vertex is faster then sas or veloci is faster then a 1TB HDD makes me a narcissist, then so be it.

OK well looks this is a waste of time then, I'm done, have a great one.

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  Quote aceking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 4:49am
black is darker than white; yellow is lighter than navy blue.  zomg i can't believe you challenged my knowledge of magic marker colors! go back to crayons!

i saw that in an preschooler forum, it reminded me of you in some strange way
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  Quote bullseyehk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 8:44am
ohhhhh if dst is the narcissitic one does that make ace the spoiled rich kid name caller?Evil%20Smile

anyone have some popcorn and a chair.  i need it for this movie.

btw what was this post about anyway?
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 7:12pm
I guess I just don't understand why someone would go so low as to use patently offensive language in someone's configuration post.  Then in addition, make such terrible remarks against a person that has tried to do so much for the Digital Storm family.
 
I hope that this isn't going to become more common place on here.  I have recommended this Forum to friends at church and at work and it is a shame that people have to read this tripe when trying to learn how to have the best bang for their computer dollar.
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  Quote tman5890 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 7:45pm
Some people just like to cause trouble. DST4ME is a very very helpful person and has helped me a great amount in configuring my rig. I feel that the attack was unnecessary and uncalled for.
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