My new PC

Budget:
[2300 max]


[I am buying pc 60% for gaming and 40% for use of programms for video editing and recording. I plan to do not touch my system for next 1.5 years. Games i will be playing: Crysis2, battlefield 3, metro 2033 and crysis1. I have a few questions, regarding psu and cooling system.

The psu i chose is 750w corsair. Is it enough for single video card option?

Cooling system: I am very confused about what cooling should I get for my system, Water or air. Seems like a lot of people go with noctua u12p. I want my system to run quietly and smoothly.

Thank you for your help,

My Specifications are:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Assassin Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX) (EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan (Not Recommended for CPU Overclocking)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.6GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

I am currently gaming at 1680 by 1050, but i will change to 1900 by 1200 soon.

What cooling do you recommend for my system?
Should i go with liquid and air? I am a big gamer, who plays almost 5-6 hours a day.

Recently I went on the website, which made a review on geforce 570 single card. http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/nvidia_gtx570_review/6

On metro 2033, it runs at 35 fps average. On crysis with 0xaa it runs at 67 average.

I think you are right, sli will work better then single gpu. By the way, system specs they used were:nVidia GTX570
ASUS Rampage III Extreme
Intel i7 950 @ 4GHz
6GB Mushkin Redline RAM
Corsair AX1200 PSU
Noctua NH-D14
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

I know the system specs they used but they don't say what is the game settings set at, they mention the aa, also if you look at my pics from other site I use often, you will say they pretty much are in the same range as each-other, that site is way off of what the other 2 sites agree on and show.

Ok here is my problem, to give you sli, we have to break the budget, and we have no option but to go with air cooled system, the good news is that if you don't mind the sound of the gpu fans, that you don't need LC anyways.

fi I skimp out on the choice of HDD, the price goes to:

$2481, Ticket Number: 488136

take a look at that and tell me what you think.

another option, can be that we go with one gpu, but have psu and mobo that can do sli, then you add a second 570 in a few months yourself, its real easy to do and takes 2 minutes for somebody who has never done it.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Feb 2011 at 2:20pm

95% of your pc's noise is from the gpu's fans while under full load, once those fans hit 80% and above, ladies and gentleman buckle-up your seatbelt, the plain will be taking off shortly.

to get a quiet system, not only do you need stage 4 cooling or higher, but you need to customize the radiator and fans for that stage so that LC system is quiet, otherwise a LC system that uses loud fans on the rad, is not gonna be quiet, its gonna be loud.

keep in mind sound is a matter of perception to an extent also, there are many of us that disagree over what is loud and what is not, but we all agree on one thing, gpus fans at full speed = loud.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Feb 2011 at 2:36pm

stop wasting your money on assassin, it does not have the airflow of haf x, and has less room, and costs more money, the mobo you chose won't do sli, for dual sli you need to chose the deluxe, the ram should be DS certified, for ram it makes no difference.

based on your build above with the modifications:

Here you go Ticket# 488163 --- $2223 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.6GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

the assassin it has 3 x 180mm fans, while the haf x has 3 x 200mm fans with the option of adding another to the top for a total of 4 x 200mm fans.

but I'm just giving you the info, at the end its about what you like.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Feb 2011 at 4:47pm

Originally posted by Regent Square Thanks for info, I will be ordering this system as soon as new motherboards will come out.

Originally posted by Regent Square I will think about what you said. By the way, is noctua u12p or d14 are quiet coolers?

Yes the noctua are quiet, here there is still a $100 difference, haf with 4 fans will have better airflow/temps then the assassin, and it has more room in the case and drive bays are easily accessed in dual sli vs assassin.

take those reviews with a grain of salt, the temps I have seen between cases, put the haf x on top as far as case temps and gpu temps go, sometimes by a little, sometimes by more, there are many things that are different in our homes then the test environment of sites.

somebody has to show me in front of my eyes how 4 x 200mm fans can't move air as well as 3 x 180mm fans.

Not saying the assassin does not have its pros, or that its not a good case, its a good case, just not as good as some of the other cases IMHO.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Feb 2011 at 7:31pm

OK, I'm just asking for proof of what you are saying also, and if you want to use sites then show me at least 3 sites, let us know the room temps and etc, at the end of the day, I'm asking how can 4 x 200mm fan not do the same or better then 3 x 180mm fans in pretty much the same area?

you stated your opinion and I'm doing the same.

Nobody post here anymore because:

1. since I'm here more often I answer the question first.

2. most times they would just be repeating what I'm saying.

ablah has a assassin, he will tell you himself that he thinks its crapped, and a bit of a pain.

you are basing your conclusion on one site's review correct? if so then that is not much of proof IMHO, and as I mentioned our room temps and cpu oc/temps and etc are all different from the rooms and environment these tests are done, so I don't see how what they did has got anything to do with our pc/room's temps and etc.

I apologize if something I said made you feel like you could not express your opinion, just having a discussion here.


Edited by DST4ME - 20 Feb 2011 at 7:56pm