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    Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 10:29pm
Hello, I am new to the forums and I am looking for a new PC. I have been using an iMac which has finally outlived its usefulness. Now I have made the big decision to move back to a PC (for a great number of reasons).

My budget is 2000 and the main purpose of this machine will be editing images in Photoshop CS5, as well as some light gaming on the side. Here's the config I came up with:

How does this look? (I live in Arkansas where summers can get pretty hot; do I need more cooling?)
Also, does anyone have an estimate on the lifetime of these machines?

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Assassin Edition
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Micro Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series  (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (64GB Solid State (By: Corsair Nova Series) (Model: CSSD-V64GB2-BRKT)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Cooler Master V8 High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Boost OS: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)


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John


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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 11:24pm
youre on the right track, im going to assume you have a monitor and you are not counting that in the price, brb
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 11:34pm
oop.. cant edit right now, so double post
 
should come to 6 bucks over your budget with shipping
 
 
do you really feel you will be using 550 gigs +
thats a lot of freaking space
 
price $1951
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Processor: Intel Core i7 860 2.80GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA P55M SLI (Intel P55 Chipset)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (80GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Extreme Performance) (Model: SSDSA2MH080G2R5)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi (7200 RPM) (32MB
Optical Drive 1: DVDR/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA EVGA GeForce GTX 470 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Warranty: 3 Year Limited Warranty with Life-Time Customer Support (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Parts)
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2010 at 11:37pm
curses! i still cant edit, triple post
 
for your price range, its a cram but you can get a quality ssd and 470 in there.. do you really need them for what you listed? maybe not, but you said 2k, so i gave you 2k
 
intel ssd is far superior to pretty much anything else at this time
 
temps shouldnt really be a huge issue with a haf932 and noctua.. how hot do you mean when you say "pretty hot" sorry im from virginia =P
 
do you run ac in your room/house?
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  Quote Supernal-Echo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 11:30am
Well, I will be doing a lot of image editing. My file sizes range from 200meg-several gigs. I was just getting extra space.


As far as temperature, the summers can be in the 90s easily. Is the assassin chassis good with heat management? I run A/C but keep it around 75.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 11:36am
photoshop, get more RAM...
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 1:18pm
yea if youre working with files that big hes right, more ram couldnt hurt... but the problem is if you bump up your amount of ram you going to quickly add $100ish to your total..
you would either have to go to 920 with 6gb ram
or 860 with 8 gig ram
(if you wanted/needed to add more)
 
the assassin draws air in from the bottem and blows out the top, if you run ac most all the time, it could benefit you. i would defnitely keep the case on the floor (not on carpet)
its possible in your setting that you could get equal or better temps with the assassin as you could with the haf932, but again youre talking about adding another $100 to your bill
 
if you drop the Intel SSD, there will be enough room in your budget for both more ram and the assassin case... might be worth it with your specific needs
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  Quote Supernal-Echo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 2:53pm
Where might one find an 8 gig ram option? Under the options it shows 3, 6, and 12 with various kinds of each. I don't see 8 gigs.
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jun 2010 at 6:49pm
Second build from the left is the i5/1166 platform  config. that's where he chose the i7 860 for better performance. Ram here is in multiples of 2. The ones left of that are all base builds for the X58/i900 series platform, where you started.
 
You could consider this:
Ticket Number: 415229
Total Price with Instant Savings: $1,900.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=415229

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Not Available
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Micro Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or
CrossFire)
System Memory: 12GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified (Highly Recommended)
(Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - Not Available
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi (7200 RPM) (32MB
Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD�R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL /
Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
(Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS
Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - Not Available
Noise Reduction: - Not Available
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz
(Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - Not Available
Boost Memory: - Not Available
Boost OS: - Not Available
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - Not Available
Office: - Not Available
Benchmarking: - Not Available
Install/Test Game: FREE: Hot-selling game with a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 or above
graphics card
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is
Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Limited Warranty with Life-Time Customer Support (3 Year Labor
 
Would trade out the SSD for all the RAM you need now and get you into the higher end platform. The SSD you could add later if prices come down, but stick with Intel. Or, you could go a tad higher and get the whole ball of wax for around $2175, incl shipping.
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Intel Core i7 930 3.8GHz OC
EVGA X58 LE
6GB DDR3 1600Mhz Ram
750W Corsair
1TB HDD
1x ATI RadeonHD 5870 1GB
Noctua Dual 120mm
I can make my mind think... anything....
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  Quote Supernal-Echo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jun 2010 at 3:15pm
I had a thought. What if I went with an SSD for now so I can load programs and such on that now? RAM is easier to upgrade than a hd. If I wait on an SSD, I will have to move programs and such around later. It would be more hassle.

Thoughts?
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jun 2010 at 6:03pm
Not a bad thought process. Unfortunately, it runs into a wall, because when you change your RAM, you either lose your oc, or you have to undo your oc, I don't know which. Point is, the oc is what takes these systems from the ordinary to the sublime. It can be undone in the bios, but the re-do is a complicated process I find akin to alchemy. Confused
 
All is not lost, however. the NEED for 12g of RAM is not there. You could easily be quite pleased going with 6, that's still a lot. and less RAM will better your overclock, in some arcane way. Considering how much faster this system will be than anything you've ever seen on your desk, you may never notice the loss.
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EVGA X58 LE
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750W Corsair
1TB HDD
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Noctua Dual 120mm
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jun 2010 at 6:16pm
gaming 4Gb = plenty. Photoshop  12Gb= ok..
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  Quote fritz982 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2010 at 2:32pm
If you ever get serious with Photoshop in the future, you're going to need the extra memory!  Example, thinking about making Panoramic's in HDR, you will it's exciting in this case you're either going to need a lot of what they referred to as "scratched disk space" which slows things down, or a lot of extra memory.  Plan to upgrade your cameras, all new still cameras in the future for the most part will have a video upgrade.  Once again, good place to have extra memory.  This list goes on, especially different software's ever thought about doing slideshow presentations, the best softwareright now is pro show gold or pro show producer.  These applications are absolutely intensive in the memory requirements.

Working with Photoshop is quite intensive at times, you want stable processor the new CS5 already has its own problems with "bugs" as it is.  My suggestion is to leave the processor just the way it is, in other words no overclocking!

Good thing that you have selected a standard secondary hard drive with a lot of space.  It's essential at times, dealing with "scratch disk space" I've got no idea how solid-state drives will operate for this requirement.  Probably just fine, but not in their limited size as of yet.

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