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    Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 7:01pm
Hey everyone, total noob here at having a machine built so please go easy on me.
Im looking to build a great gaming machine that has to stay at or under $2650.
I want to be able to play all the newest games like BF3 and the like. I also would like some of the "Wow" factor of having a machine that looks great. I love the look of the lights and liquid cool etc. I know I can't afford a monster machine so I want to be able to upgrade it as time goes on. I will need a new monitor, mouse, and keyboard but I am willing to go cheap on those to start as they are an easy upgrade and I would also like to hook it to my HDTV at times. I have another computer for our everyday use and storage so this will be a PC for gaming and online gaming almost all of the time.
 
I was playing around with the build and would like your thoughts.
I e-mailed an engineer about it and he only suggested changing out the led fans for 4 200mm led fans. Like I said I'm not at all good at designing one and I was sure I would have made some if not many mistakes. Here is my creation and thanks for any advice.
 
Ticket Number: 609647
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 2000MHz GTX-8 Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA Edition)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: FrostChill Cooling System: CPU Only
H20 Tube Color:Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Red) (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: Touch V12XT Aerocool Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: FREE: Battlefield 3 (Available only with Intel K Series and Extreme Edition CPUs)
Display: !PROMO BUNDLE: Acer 22 inch LCD + Logitech (Keyboard + Mouse) + Logitech Speakers
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

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What is the native resolution of the monitor you gonna be gaming at?
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  Quote Ghostsight Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 7:35pm
Well im a noob too when it comes to this but from what they have told me so far you might want to upgrade your power supply to the 1050hx.  Also im not sure about the performace difference in upgrading to the 2000mhz ram vs the 1600 or 1800. DST4ME will know for sure.  The bigger power supply would be needed for sli if you choose to later on. Not sure if your motherboard will support sli either, but as I said others will know for sure. 
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  Quote Hookset Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

What is the native resolution of the monitor you gonna be gaming at?
Not exactly sure as of yet. I will get the cheaper monitor for now and upgrade that in the near future. I just wanted to get one for now to use it and then use it on my other PC as soon as I get a better one.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 7:47pm
I can't tell you what to get, if I don't know what its gonna need to run.

you need to match gpu power with monitor otherwise you gonna endup wasting money or not having enough power.

I can tell you right now that I would not recommend that config, and that 800w is not gonna do sli 580.

don't pay twice for monitor, wait and get what you want in the meantime use the tv or something.

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  Quote Hookset Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

I can't tell you what to get, if I don't know what its gonna need to run.

you need to match gpu power with monitor otherwise you gonna endup wasting money or not having enough power.

I can tell you right now that I would not recommend that config, and that 800w is not gonna do sli 580.

don't pay twice for monitor, wait and get what you want in the meantime use the tv or something.
Sorry. Like I said I don't know enough to design my own but I did try.
 
Maybe I should start all over.
 
Originally posted by Hookset

Hey everyone, total noob here at having a machine built so please go easy on me.
Im looking to build a great gaming machine that has to stay at or under $2650.
I want to be able to play all the newest games like BF3 and the like. I also would like some of the "Wow" factor of having a machine that looks great. I love the look of the lights and liquid cool etc. I know I can't afford a monster machine so I want to be able to upgrade it as time goes on. I will need a new monitor, mouse, and keyboard but I am willing to go cheap on those to start as they are an easy upgrade and I would also like to hook it to my HDTV at times. I have another computer for our everyday use and storage so this will be a PC for gaming and online gaming almost all of the time.
 
Forget the rest of my post.
I obviously dont know what I'm doing.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 11:54pm
We do have to make you a new config, but first we need to know what the res of the monitor you gonna want to run is gonna be, so first decide on the monitor that you would want to upgrade to.

lets do this, how much were you expecting to spend on the monitor you would really like?
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Originally posted by DST4ME

We do have to make you a new config, but first we need to know what the res of the monitor you gonna want to run is gonna be, so first decide on the monitor that you would want to upgrade to.

lets do this, how much were you expecting to spend on the monitor you would really like?
After some looking I'm thinking I want to go with a native of 1920x1080
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Ok great that is a start, now what was the budget for it going to be? keep in mind we are talking about the monitor you said you would eventually upgrade to.

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2011 at 12:03am
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I figure somewhere around 200-250
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Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23

Most important thing about a monitor is its panel, right now there are 2 major ones, TN and IPS, IPS has superior picture quality/clarity.

1. response time is a bs number, its there to fool you and does not represent the true response time of the monitor, there is no real way of truly finding what response time is, the closest to it is white to white but you don't see that, you see grey to grey or black to black cause they give small numbers to fool users but they don't mean anything, there are different methods to get these numbers also, and each will give a different number as results, therefore you can even compare one to the other, cause we don't know what method was used for which, and even if we did, still GTG or BTB don't mean anything.

2. contrast ratio is also bs number.

that dell monitor is an ips panel.
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I like the looks of the Dell

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Its a great ips monitor.

now to run that monitor at max settings, for custom config its gonna be around $2800 that has ssd, sli 570 etc, or you get ode 3, which can't do what the custom config can as far as future upgrades go but as far as game performance they would be equal.

or we can build you a system for around $2100 with single 570, you add the second 570 in a few months.

let me know which you like to see/do.

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I think the single 570 is the way I'd like to go.
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Without ssd $2,123, with ssd $2,399

which you want to see?
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With ssd please
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Here you go Ticket# 609800 --- $2,399 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) (EVGA Edition)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the top, so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans:

haf 200mm non led fan

other then adding another 570 to that config, there is nothing you can do to make it better at that res, and all it needs really to be complete is a 570.

in 2 to 3 years upgrade sli 570 and it will feel like a new pc in gaming.


Edited by DST4ME - 27 Oct 2011 at 2:06am
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  Quote Hookset Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Oct 2011 at 2:12am
Thank you so much DST4ME!
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My pleasure and good luck boss            
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