Need help finalizing my ticket pleasePost Date: 2008-10-21 |
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sittingducks
Newbie Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Topic: Need help finalizing my ticket please Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 8:37pm |
Hey guys, after some research on these great forums, I've come up with this ticket...
197777 Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache) Motherboard: NVIDIA 780i Core 2 Quad (Chipset: nForce 780i SLI) System Memory: 2GB DDR2 1066MHz OCZ (SLI-Ready Edition) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x CrossFire Dual (ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 3.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse) Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty I'm probably going to use my 24 inch Dell monitor I'm already using for my old computer, so I'll be looking to game at around 1920X1200 (COD4, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Fallout 3 when it comes out, etc etc) I chose the 750 Psu since I already have 2 cards (wont be looking to add another one down the road and I read that the 750 works fine for the 4850CF) I chose 2 GB ram instead of 4 since I doubt I will be able to access more than 2.5 -2.75 GB of ram on this current rig. And I chose the E8400 because this is mostly going to be a gaming rig and I honestly don't see how an E8400 OC'd to around 3.6 Ghz is that much worse than a Q9550 at current games (or the E8500/E86000 for that matter).... So that's my ticket, please tell me if there's anything you would change =] I'm open to anything that keeps the price under...oh....$2000. Thanks a lot! EDIT: Oops, swap out the 780i with the Asus Rampage, silly me.... Edited by sittingducks - 21 Oct 2008 at 9:49pm |
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Mezzeron
Senior Member Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 10:45pm |
Awesome CPU, very overclockable, even on air! But i would make just a few suggestions.
For about $36 more you can have SLI 9800 GTX+ cards which are rated better in SLI mode. unless you like ATI like i like Nvidia, then stick with what you like.
You could have 4g ram for a little bit more, and get the 64bit OS for only $15 more to use all 4g of ram.
For what you will be running, 750 PSU will run it just fine, and be quiet. But if you were to eventually upgrade to the more powerful cards, you will prob need a bit more juice.
Also, use 800mhz ram, its gonna be OC'd anyways. From what ive heard not alot of diff from 800 to 1066. DST will know for sure, hell post here soon :)
my suggestion: ticket 197808
Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache) Motherboard: NVIDIA 780i Core 2 Quad (Chipset: nForce 780i SLI) System Memory: 4GB DDR2 800MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB) (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 3.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse) Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty TICKET # 197808 Edited by Mezzeron - 21 Oct 2008 at 10:50pm |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 10:49pm |
here you go Ticket# 197811 --- Price: $2086 (To see this build click here)
Copy of Specifications: Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache) Motherboard: Asus Rampage Formula (Chipset: Intel X48) (Supports CrossFire) System Memory: 4GB DDR2 1066MHz OCZ (SLI-Ready Edition) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x CrossFire Dual (ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty you will need 4GB of ram and you need vista 64bit |
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Mezzeron
Senior Member Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 11:10pm |
TICKET 197815 Copy of Specifications:
Well, you could always go the DDR3 route with a more powerful single card setup, and do a little upgrading in the future for a second card. Imagine, 2 gtx 260, awesome
Also, if your not an nVidia lover, disregard my post(s)
$2028, just a tad over your budget
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only) System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes) Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty Edited by Mezzeron - 21 Oct 2008 at 11:17pm |
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Mezzeron
Senior Member Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 11:15pm |
Oh, if you want it FAST, check out the preconfigured GTO in the specials, its under 2k. The GTO is pretty fickin sweet for the price, and you get a quad core with a gtx 280.
Edited by Mezzeron - 21 Oct 2008 at 11:15pm |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 11:52pm |
he specifically said he wanted a dual ATI system, which is why I didn't mention the gto, but lets see what he thinks
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Mezzeron
Senior Member Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 1:50am |
bah, i need to start paying more attention
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sittingducks
Newbie Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 2:34am |
Hey, thanks a lot for the quick responses
Thanks about the whole switching to 800MHz RAM idea Mezzeron, I think I read somewhere that 1066 is basically 800 parts but tested to run higher. I'm just a little bit worried about using a 64-Bit OS because of certain program compatibilities...not sure if that's unfounded or not. Otherwise ill definitely go that route and 4 GB of RAM. The only reason I wanted the dual ATI's is because I'm not looking for future upgrade potential with my rig. I'll probably wait for Sandy Bridge then completely upgrade to the new mobos and DDR3 memory, when all the kinks have been worked out with the new tech. Also, I'm not sure the performance boost to DDR3 with the current processors is worth it, at least for me. So I've read that 4850CF beats out the 280GTX on all games except Crysis and is around the level of 9800GTX+ in SLI, plus I get the added benefit of the x48 mobo which allows better overclocking. So based on that this is the revised ticket : 197848 Copy of Specifications: Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache) Motherboard: Asus Rampage Formula (Chipset: Intel X48) (Supports CrossFire) System Memory: 4GB DDR2 800MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x CrossFire Dual (ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 3.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse) Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty I mean, this should be enough to run pretty much all games bar Crysis at 1920x1200 on high right? And ill be pretty much set for the next 3 years while I wait for Intel's tock =] since I don't see an OC'd Core 2 Duo and 4850CF becoming COMPLETELY obsolete anytime soon (i hope) and damn am i happy to find DSO, all that time going through those overpriced alienware/other randomcompany's rigs was a PAIN o.o EDIT: I've read this on a site.... In Vista x64, any driver that is not properly signed will not be able to enter the kernel and will fail to load. How often does this problem occur, in your experience? Thanks Mezzeron and DST4ME! Edited by sittingducks - 22 Oct 2008 at 2:41am |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 2:45am |
Yes we are all lucky to have found DS, now, don't worry about vista 64bit its not XP 64bit that had lot of problems.
the things about ram speed is that it matters when you OC. you got a chip that has a multiplier of 9. your ram at 800MHz has a core speed of 800 ÷ 2 = 400 9 x 400 = 3600, so basically with that ram you are capped at 3.6GHz OC speed. now lets look at the 1066MHz ram and its cap. 1066 ÷ 2 = 533 9 x 533 = 4797, so basically with that ram you are capped at 4.8GHz OC speed. now yo are not gonna get up to 4.8 but you can get to 3.8 or 4.0 possibly, with the 800MHz you can't get to 3.8GHz cause you are capped at 3.6GHz. does that make sense? yes your gpus are going to be fine for your games. if vista 64bit gives you the digital signature error, let me know we can disable that and let you install what you like then re-enable it Edited by DST4ME - 22 Oct 2008 at 2:47am |
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sittingducks
Newbie Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:10am |
Wow that's great about the 64bit thing, that'll work.
Yup i understand your explanation =] Only question I have about the memory is this: I'm overclocking the 800MHz RAM, and I'm only on stage 2 air cooling for the CPU (though effectively stage 3 from what I hear about the HAF). So the OC potential for the E8400 on my rig shouldn't be more than 3.6-3.8 (since I see that it's OC'd to 4.0GHz on liquid in the pre-configured rigs). So would my OC'd 800 MHz ram be able to support my config or still bottleneck it since I don't imagine I'm going to go liquid and go for speeds of over 4.0GHz.... Or should i get the 1066 just to be safe? EDIT: also, would a higher RAM speed affect actual performance? Cos then I guess ill just go with the 1066 then, seems to be the safer bet? Thanks! Edited by sittingducks - 22 Oct 2008 at 3:14am |
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Shepherd
Groupie Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 40 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:17am |
You might want to drop the mouse and keyboard and buy them yourself...the Logitec G15 is a nice keyboard and the G5 or G9 from Logitec are also good mice. Just something else to think about.
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:20am |
higher ram speed does help performance but its very minimal.
I think you should call DS and ask and see if which ram speed they advise you, for a stage 2 cooling OC. but you are right, with stage 2 you may not even get that high, but then again at 3.6GHz, you are pushing your ram to its max. Edited by DST4ME - 22 Oct 2008 at 3:21am |
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sittingducks
Newbie Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:20am |
Sounds good, ill probably go for something wireless just to make it a little less cluttered....
EDIT: EDIT EDIT: Yeah you're right stressing my hardware to the max can't be good at all. I'll swap to 1066 and instead take out the OC option on my RAM (unless it also lowers latency - does it?) Thanks again man, tons of help. Edited by sittingducks - 22 Oct 2008 at 3:32am |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:22am |
lol we posted at the same time
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sittingducks
Newbie Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:28am |
hahah now we edited/posted at the same time
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:35am |
when you call to order, see what they recommend, since they are the one doing the OC, they can tell you best, which way works well with their process
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sittingducks
Newbie Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:47am |
Right, thanks so much for your help. RAM speeds and all that finally make sense to me o.o
I'll probably order in the next few days then. |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 3:50am |
My pleasure, good luck boss
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