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    Posted: 05 Feb 2009 at 10:42pm
Im on a limited budget of around 1,200 (dont make fun Wink)
Ive got a 22in monitor never really found a res that I like specially on my crap tastic system

Ive never had a good system, got an old dell that ive upgraded as much as possible.
I have
Keyboard
Mouse
Monitor
cd/dvd-rw drive
150gb hd that is on it way out

I dont play alot of games really.  Mainly WoW and BF2/2142 and some RaindowSix Vegas 2.  So I dont need a super duper system.  I was hoping I could find somethig that would run those games smooth.  Ive shopped around alot and all place have said this was the best place.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Feb 2009 at 10:47pm
thats a tough budget, why not save more and have a system you can upgrade thru the years?

otherwise you will get a minimal system that can't be upgraded for the next say 5 years.

for 600 to 800 more you can get a system that you can upgrade and have it be a great system for years.
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  Quote lgm25c Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 9:12am
Hi Av1420,
 
DST4ME is right, but...don't become completely discouraged. Cool
 
I plan on buying a new rig myself next month, and though my budget is higher, $1200 would buy a serious upgrade from my "craptastic system".
 
I guess you saw the different configurations DS has listed?
For the games you mentioned, you don't need a bleeding edge system.
There is a Core Duo 3.0 system starting at $1000. That gives you some room to upgrade the RAM, or maybe a larger PSU (to allow more options for upgrading graphics cards).. Add more RAM later as it's relatively cheap and easy to do.
 
For a 22" monitor you want your resolution set at 1680 X 1050.
 
 


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  Quote Avl420 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 10:48am
Thx any suggestions on what to stick togther?

I have an 8400gs card and fares well, but I think my current dell PSU is barely enough to run it.  Its got something like 18amp on the 12v rail is a sad little computer.

I know the budget suck but that its, im a just out of college basically living week to week.  This is my gift to myself, so im trying to bang for my buck since im really not looking for a killer system.  More of a starter system, that I will prob use for a few year untill I get a good IT job that I went to school for and can afford to drop a couple grand on a system
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  Quote Avl420 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 4:04pm
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=242934
Ticket Number: 242934
What about something like this?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by Avl420

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=242934<span style="font-family: monospace;"></span>Ticket Number: 242934<span style="font-family: monospace;"></span>What about something like this?


sure you got the right ticket? cause that ticket is $2800
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  Quote Avl420 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 5:17pm
odd that not what I setup but that what the email was.

lemme try again
Ticket Number: 242990

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=242990
Specifications:
Chassis Model: Antec 900 
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache)
Motherboard: NVIDIA 780i Core 2 Quad (Chipset: nForce 780i SLI)
System Memory: 2GB DDR2 1066MHz OCZ (SLI-Ready Edition)
Power Supply: 650W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200
RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL /
Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT 512MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System
Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating
system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For
Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 5:57pm
looks OK but you can't really upgrade it later.

you need to up your ram, psu, your anteck is small and will not let you upgrade to bigger cards. and you got no oc so you are stock with the speed of 3.0 instad of 3.8Ghz
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  Quote Avl420 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 8:37pm
I figured the PSU would be sufficient for my needs it pulls like 45amp on the 12v rail I thought that should be more than enough for a  mid range graphics

Is there a major size differnce in the vid cards?  I know the 9800 series are like 10.5 inches long.  Ive seen one 9800gtx+ in antec 900 before, but there was only like an inch of clearence between the end of the card and the 5.25 bay

Would I be giving myself a bottleneck if I backed down to 4gb of 800mhz ram as opposed to the 2gb of the faster?
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  Quote lgm25c Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 8:44pm
Here's a configuration that has a different case, a PSU that will support 2 cards (for later upgrade), and some faster RAM.
 You will be able to add more RAM later. Depending on the motherboard, you may be able to upgrade to a higher RAM speed as well, and a faster CPU.
  DS will be able to tell you about your mb capabilities.
 
It's $1300 because I put in a nice graphics card - before any instant savings DS gives you.
 
Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache)
Motherboard: NVIDIA 780i Core 2 Quad (Chipset: nForce 780i SLI)
System Memory: 2GB DDR2 1066MHz OCZ (SLI-Ready Edition)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (216 Cores) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: - No Thanks, Please test my memory, I will be responsible for software based support
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 8:45pm
If thats what you like go for it

also go 4GB, no bottle neck,.

fastest cpu he can get with that mobo will be a qx9770

@lgm25c, your config has no windows on it.

Edited by DST4ME - 06 Feb 2009 at 8:50pm
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  Quote Avl420 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 9:00pm
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since I have some people here that know alot more about computers than I do

I saw a video other day of a guy that cooled his computer by submerging it in mineral oil.  Its a cool concept, but would that not basically kill any kind of warranty?   Seems like it would be a major task to deal with a defective part or something like that


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 9:04pm
that is very extreme cooling and too much hassle.
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  Quote lgm25c Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 9:50pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

If thats what you like go for it

also go 4GB, no bottle neck,.

fastest cpu he can get with that mobo will be a qx9770

@lgm25c, your config has no windows on it.
 
DOH!    Big%20smile My apologies!
 
I really meant to have 4GB RAM in there, and I don't know how "no windows installed" got selected! Total error there.
 
The rest looks pretty good, IMHO. Given the OP's needs I thought the E8400 would be fine. It's a nice processor that should satisfy for some time.
 
  There are many folks here who have more knowledge/experience than me.
 I certainly don't want to mess up the thread, or give out confusing, or bogus advice.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 10:32pm
Nobody said you messed up anything or saying anything bogus, I was just pointing out that your build was missing windows

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