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Post Date: 2008-10-19
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    Posted: 19 Oct 2008 at 11:34pm
Ouch Hello to all.  I'm just now getting my feet wet to what I call the super computer world,.  I am a big time simulation gamer.  I don't play a lot of the MMORPG games, but I like to do the usual of storing and downloading music, using the internet, downloading pics and movies and even editing movies.  Here is the big part of my question, I love flight simuation and have always wanted a system to just plain run the damn game with everything turned up and no lag.  I'm sure a lot of you guys remember the first time you thought that to yourself!   I'm not very up-to-date on how to build my own computer, and I'm turning to you guys for help.  I'm working on my wife right now to get the go ahead to get the "System of My Dreams" (Nice computer name).  She has a max of 2 months or I get it regardless of what she says!! Dead  Any help would be so greatly appreciated and I can't wait to see your responses!  Thanks in advance.
 
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for your multitasking quad is best, for fsx E8xxx cpu is best which is a dual core

whats your budget and which would you rather go with? dual or quad?

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Originally posted by DST4ME

for your multitasking quad is best, for fsx E8xxx cpu is best which is a dual core

whats your budget and which would you rather go with? dual or quad?
 
Not to concerned with money, don't feel like I need the most expensive thing out there because I'm a "Light" gamer.  I'm more concerned with having the perfect PC for the Simulation games that I play like flight simulator.  I beleive that the dual core would be good.  Again, being so new to building my own system, I would need baby steps to help get my computer built.
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what resolution will you be doing gaming at?

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Originally posted by DST4ME

what resolution will you be doing gaming at?
1240x768 with the highest color possible.
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ok how about this:

here you go Ticket# 196912 --- Price: $2313 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 3.33GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

if you don't want high OCspeeds and are ok with moderate OC speeds drop liquid cooling and go with stage 2 air cooling.

your thoughts

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Posts: 35 		  Quote JBrownUP Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 12:32pm
Looks amazing!!  With what you know about the way I use computers, would it be better for me to have the liquid cooling or the stage 2?
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it think with that and liquid cooling you should be around 4.0GHz and fsx loves cpu speed from what I understand.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Oct 2008 at 12:37pm

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I would agree on that assessment. FSX loves CPU power.

Honestly at the graphic resolution you are looking at, you could go either liquid or air and be fine in my opinion with that processor.

You say you are a complete newbie to this, Liquid cooling has maintenance requirements, adding liquid (Actually a non-conductive fluid not water) which can be concerning for someone unfamiliar with the process.

I think you would be just as happy with the air cooled, and still get a great overclock out of the excellent case that DST recommended.

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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 1:18pm
lol KB@ makes sound like its difficult, adding liquid, once a month if needed is not that difficult.

But KB2 is right, if you are the type of person who does not like to open your case then maybe liquid cooling is not for you, but if you have ever changed anything in your PC, adding liquid is easier then that.

Air would do just fine also, your OC speed would not be as high, but you should be fine.

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I never said Hard DST... just concerning... pouring liquid into a reservoir that is placed inside something electronic, not hard... but it can cause concern if you are unfamiliar or nervous about spilling :)

The only reasons I mentioned it was we are talking someone new to custom PCs who seems to want to play games, not play with components Angry As well as the resolution he mentioned is not in the stratosphere and that 260 and a high speed dual core should rip FS-X apart at that resolution without the extra few cycles liquid will net him.

Just my opinion thrown into the ring... can't have you being the only response to people now can we.

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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Oct 2008 at 1:32pm
I understand that but new people will take that as something difficult, from what I see around here, one time HM mentioned something about OCing and everybody started saying OC is not good.

I never said anything about you expressing your opinion, I was just making sure new people that read your comment don't take it the wrong way.

Also like to point out that the OP said he has worked with pcs before

other then that I agreed with everything you said

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Oct 2008 at 1:36pm

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A mild OC with air cooling would be sufficient for your needs. If you have the extra cash for liquid cooling, it will provide a better OC with a cooler running cpu. Either way you'll get good cpu performance. It's well worth the money to OC with air, understanding that DSO has experience with such matters and they back it up with a warranty.
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