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    Posted: 13 Aug 2011 at 3:09pm
Budget:
$1500-3,000 not including shipping cost.
Currently have one monitor 1600x900 Res.
Have mouse and keyboard.
Have WD HDD Caviar 750 GB from my old PC.

Expectations:
Planning on buying new Monitor with better Res.

Usage:
Will be using this for mostly gaming.
I use 1 monitor.
I am playing or plan to play: Starcraft 2, Rift, Battlefield 3, Diablo 3.

Special Needs:
I am aiming to run Battlefield 3 without lag at at least med-high setting.

For processor i am looking at
i7 9xx
i7 2xxx
Phenom IIx6
Any help would be great, best bang for it bucks.

Video Card:
Anything that is good for it price.
Also aiming to do X-fire or SLI depend on which mobo is suggest.

Ram: 8GB

Any suggestion would be a great help. I have a bit of time before i buy still. Currently deploy and i don't have enough time to look up the part myself.

Thank you for your help.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Aug 2011 at 6:54pm
We need to know the res first, without knowing it there is no way to figure out how much power you need and give you the best bang for the buck.

right now the build would be a 2600K build.

Edited by DST4ME - 13 Aug 2011 at 6:54pm
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  Quote Purepenny Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2011 at 1:52pm
I'm thinking about buying 21.5" Asus LCD monitor. Native Res is 1920 x 1080.

Here is what I've been looking at
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=586393


Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO (Intel Z68 Chipset) (Features Intel Quick Sync Technology)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X-25V Edition) (Extreme Performance) <b></b>
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty


Now come the fun part which i really need help with.

1. Since they are both free, which will benefits me more?
Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking Vs
Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz

2. GPU - Which would be best with ASUS P8Z68-V PRO? Vice versa.

   1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (on spec)

   2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB +$50

   1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB +$119

   2x SLI Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB +$121

3. PSU - If i decide to go with SLI Dual, is 750w enough?

Thank you very much for the help in advance. Sorry about the clutter up on the post.

Edited by Purepenny - 14 Aug 2011 at 5:03pm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 2:30am
1. turbo will never match oc.

2. your mobo has no limits till tri sli so what gpu is no issue, what gpu you get is dependent on what you need to run at what res.

3. NO

Your build has issues.

instead of putting money toward things that don't matter like ram, when need to put it toward things that do matter like psu brand.

HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games

HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage

the 40GB you chose its not enough at all, win7 takes 20GB itself, that barely leaves room for apps let along games. Also that is the old model, right now for that price you can get better with the new model. If you want a ssd it needs to be around 120GB.

to run bf3 at your new res, you gonna want sli 570.

Some thing like this:

Here you go Ticket# 286683 --- $2,819 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (New B3 Revision) (Does Not Support SLI)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Player (Play Blu-Ray and Play DVDs)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
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  Quote Purepenny Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 5:50am
The build looks great.
As for resolution, I am aiming to buy ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen 16:9 Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor.
Native Resolution is 1920 x 1080.

As you mention earlier i want to SLI 570. I go ahead and change some stuff on the list which will support SLI for 570 and new PSU. As far as cooling goes, i still need help with it.

ASUS Sabertooth P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Remove Blu-Ray Drive, I have Blu-Ray Drive on my old PC.

Which put this PC at $3,150. A little over my budget but i can deal with it.

Please let me know if this build will work. And if there is better choice than this.

Thank you very much.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2011 at 3:24pm
I got your new res from your last post, thats why I said "to run bf3 at your new res, you gonna want sli 570."

Response time is a bs number, its there to fool you and does not represent the true response time of the monitor, there is no real way of truly finding what response time is, the closest to it is white to white but you don't see that, you see grey to grey or black to black cause they give small numbers to fool users but they don't mean anything, there are different methods to get these numbers and each will give a different number as results, therefore you can even compare one to the other.

Most important thing about a monitor is its panel, right now there are 2 major ones, TN and IPS, IPS has superior picture quality/clarity.

If you want a good quality IPS monitor check out this:

dell23 Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23

but don't buy it at full price it goes on sale for $270 or $250, so buy it then, if its in the budget of course.


I would go with deluxe over sabertooth, its a better mobo and much easier to work with.

I don't undetstand why you want to pay more then my config, there is nothing you can do to make my config better so I don't understand why your are getting $3150 or what you are doing that is making it cost more with inferior parts like the sabertooth, unless I'm misunderstanding something.

In short why are you not using my config? I'm just wondering since there is nothing to add to make it better and it costs less then what you just quoted. Keep in mind, if you don't see it in my build its because it will not be noticed performance-wise, you will only notice it in your bank account.

Edited by DST4ME - 15 Aug 2011 at 3:26pm
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  Quote Purepenny Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2011 at 5:20am
I decided to buy The Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23. And i am going to go with the build you link me with the delux mobo.
only because the mobo on your spec doesn't support SLI.
I hope that wont post the problem for the build.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 5:02pm
Channing the mobo will not allow you to go sli, you need a 1000w corsair psu and sli mobo to go sli.

Edited by DST4ME - 17 Aug 2011 at 5:02pm
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