Need some LC system advice....

I've convinced myself the reason of noise in my comp is probably because of my CPU's stock air cooler, since quieting down everything except that doesn't shut it up xD. Anyways, I'm looking around for vendors to construct my own LC system, I can't send it back to DS because I don't have a backup system. I've no clue how exactly to make one however, heh.

Preferably, I'd like to cool a CPU and two vid cards, though I can probably just make due with a CPU cooler. CPU's a i7 920, graphics are dual 9600 GTs. I've considered Asetek's system, which I found this



(can you seriously daisy chain multiple Asetek cooling plates to a single radiator? I've only seen people use a single radiator/cpu cooler combo, never multiple ones)

Anyways, I've heard a lot of backlash against Asetek coolers about it not really being a true LC solution, so I'm just gonna try to construct one of the conventional ones.

Mainly, I need to ask, what are the components you need to build a nice, reliable LC system? Any vendor suggestions?

(Also, some overclocking tips would be nice....since I'll be able to boost up my overclock. i7 920 currently runs at 3.33 Ghz using the stock cooler)


Edited by ablahblah - 14 Apr 2010 at 10:56pm

Here is kind of a tutorial on how to build a simple loop. http://www.maximumpc.com/article/howtos/howto_water_cool_your_pc      

Hmm, thanks for the link on water cooling 101. I've always wondered though, when "UV Lighting" is mentioned, is it seriously outputting UV radiation? Like, as in, if you're dumb enough to spend enough time near the light, you'll get skin cancer or something?

And I remember that to cool dual graphics cards you have to arrange the tubing for them in a special way, what exactly is that?

EDIT : Wow all these options are overwhelming, can someone just, like, build me a set of links of part recomendations so I can start somewhere... xD I've dual 9600 GTs and a i7 920 (obviously, LG1336 socket)

EDIT (Again) : Annd...how do you make a quick disconnect system....

EDIT #3 : Umm, since my case has my mobo rotated in such a way that the card's are oriented vertically, am I still gonna need to do any sort of special hold-downs for it, or, is it convieniently in an orientation where there's no possibility of my mobo warping in shape?

Herrrrre's a quick look of my internals if you've never seen my DS review post.


EDIT #4 : One more question, so, if I wanted to have a 3/8's system, I'd need tubing that's 3/8's ID right?


Edited by ablahblah - 05 Apr 2010 at 7:09pm

Lalala, it's times like this that I appreciate my Noctua NH-D14 more and more.

my current cooling "setup"

i7 - Stock
9600 GTs - Stock
Case - Vertically Mounted PCI Cards w/180mm fans

it's somehow been enough to amp up the i7 from 2.66 to 3.2.

stock cooler's noise level has been bugging me for awhile, i've sourced it too.

yep, i've been looking at a single graphic card option for a long time now, just haven't had the right circumstances to get it. looking online, GTX285's run for 440 or so, and wait, why are the GTX470's cheaper than that by 50....

so for coolants, just use distilled water like everyone says?

the fans, eh, i just put them in there because they were low dBa. i really had no clue what to look for....

EDIT: Wtf was i doing there. 14.3 CFM fans for rads
I updated the list, fans are now 69 CFM's with low dBa still, updated to MX-3 compound, and killed the GPU stuff. And replaced the tubing with UV reactive stuff. Hell, I can just use distilled water, I can get it free or cheap because my mom happens to work in the medical industry.


Edited by ablahblah - 05 Apr 2010 at 9:55pm

*updated previous list....
(fans run at 19 dBa, not absolutely horrible, but not that good either. then again, i DO have that extra slot on my fan controller...)

hey, it's distilled water coming from a medical research institute, if it's got little buggers in it then we have a problem


Edited by ablahblah - 05 Apr 2010 at 10:03pm

Whats the biggest radiator you can fit inside the raven case? just curious.

UPDATED

Reservoir - Thermaltake AquaBay M1 2U 5.25" Dual Reservoir / Flow Meter
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2225/ex-res-79/Thermaltake_AquaBay_M1_2U_525_Dual_Reservoir_Flow_Meter_CL-W0032.html?tl=g30c97s168#blank

 

why not save a few bucks and get the regular pump and use 1/2 tubing?

 

primochill LRT pro 1/2" is about the best tubing around

 

the EK supremem HF is better, the Swiftec XT is also better

Thermaltake makes cases.    Oh i didnt notice u had the raven one.   

Edited by Marcus - 05 Apr 2010 at 10:20pm

Though the case is steel, many of silverstone's add-on components are aluminum made, which is their tradition. Is that bad?

have checked out sidewinder before, more familiar with frozencpu though.


Edited by ablahblah - 05 Apr 2010 at 10:26pm

aluminum just messes up and corrodes everything, right....

oh and, where the heck would i exactly mount the pump. nicely, velcro or zip tie i'd rather not do, but I could if really necessary.

also, is there any advantage or point to having a chipset LC'd?

hey, i just noticed something. liquid cooling doesn't really have ANY form of cooling at all, it's just really a heat exchange system, right?


Edited by ablahblah - 05 Apr 2010 at 10:34pm

liquid cooling the chipset, is mostly for looks, all of my classifieds have chipset blocks, because the VRM run so hot that I ran into stability problems when overclocking, so I first added fans to the stock cooler, which worked fine, but was loud, and looked like crap, so went full coverage water block. Liquid cooling is just air/water exchanger.

1.5 GPM is harder to get that you might think. lol I can calc out your flow rate, and on the first one you figured It would be no where near 1.5 GPM, maybe half that.. lol

that swiftech setup is ok, but very expensive.. $50 rad, and $50 pump for $200. lol

UPDATED AGAIN

Dual Loop

Reservoir - Swiftech MCR120 "Quiet Power" 120mm Radiator w/ Reservoir
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6570/ex-rad-125/Swiftech_MCR120_Quiet_Power_120mm_Radiator_w_Reservoir_-_MCR120-QP_Res.html

Pumps - Swiftech MCP350™ 12v Water Pump (Native 3/8") (92.4 GPH) (DIRECTLY MOUNTABLE ON RESERVOIR)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2132/ex-pmp-31/Swiftech_MCP350_12v_Water_Pump_Native_38_924_GPH.html#blank

Pump Attached Quick Release - Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff Nozzle, Male Panel Barb (10mm, 3/8")
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10355/koo-213/Koolance_QDC_High_Flow_No-Spill_Shutoff_Nozzle_Male_Panel_Barb_10mm_38_VL3N-M10B-P.html

                                              - Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff Nozzle, Female Compression (10mm, 3/8" x 13mm, 1/2")
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9499/koo-180/Koolance_QDC_High_Flow_No-Spill_Shutoff_Nozzle_Female_Compression_10mm_38_x_13mm_12_VL3N-F10S.html

Radiators - Swiftech MCR120 "Quiet Power" 120mm Radiator w/ Reservoir
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6570/ex-rad-125/Swiftech_MCR120_Quiet_Power_120mm_Radiator_w_Reservoir_-_MCR120-QP_Res.html


Radiator Fans - 2x Cooler Master R4 Series 120x25mm Super Silent Fan (wait, the Scyth 1450's run at 22 dBa and 50 CFM, these run at 19 dBa and 69 CFM...)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9303/fan-575/Cooler_Master_R4_Series_120x25mm_Super_Silent_Fan_-_Blue_LED_-_R4-L2R-20AC-GP.html


Quick Release Attached To Radiator - Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff Nozzle, Male G1/4 Thread
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9503/koo-184/Koolance_QDC_High_Flow_No-Spill_Shutoff_Nozzle_Male_G14_Thread_VL3N-MG.html

                                                        Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff Nozzle, Female Angle Compression (10mm, 3/8" x 13mm, 1/2")
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10264/koo-209/Koolance_QDC_High_Flow_No-Spill_Shutoff_Nozzle_Female_Angle_Compression_10mm_38_x_13mm_12_VL3N-F10L.html


Tubing - 2.5 Meter (8 feet) Feser Tube Active UV Blue Hose - Retail Packed - 3/8" ID (1/2"OD) Anti-Kink Tubing
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8666/ex-tub-458/25_Meter_8_feet_Feser_Tube_Active_UV_Hose_-_Retail_Packed_-_38_ID_12OD_Anti-Kink_Tubing_-_Clear_UV_Blue.html?tl=g30c99s171#blank


Coolant - Distilled Water coming from a Medical Research Institute

Antibio - Feser Base Corrosion Blocker
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7086/ex-liq-95/Feser_Base_Corrosion_Blocker_-_50ml_FB-0055.html

CPU Block - Swiftech Apogee XT Extreme
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9767/ex-blc-679/Swiftech_Apogee_XT_Extreme_Flagship_Performance_CPU_Waterblock_Sockets_775_1156_1366.html

GPU Blocks - Screw Graphics for now.

SLI Connectors - Screw SLI for now.


Any Safety Devices - Koolance INS-FM17 Coolant Flow Meter with Signal Amplifying Adapter Board
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8294/koo-158/Koolance_INS-FM17_Coolant_Flow_Meter_and_Adapter_Board_No_Fittings.html?tl=g30c229s582#blank


Thermal Paste Cleaner - ArtiClean 1 & 2
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/3778/thr-20/ArctiClean_1_and_2_Thermal_Material_Remover_and_Surface_Purifier_-_60ml_Kit.html?tl=g8c123s248#blank

Thermal Paste - Arctic MX-3
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9633/thr-68/Arctic_Cooling_MX-3_Super_High_Performance_Non-Conductive_Thermal_Compound_4g.html#blank

Lighting - Dual 12 inch Cold Cathode Kit - UV Blue
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2998/lit-46/Dual_12_Cold_Cathode_Kit_-_Ultra_Bright_UV.html?tl=g6c75


Miscellaneous - Tube Cutter
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2248/ex-tub-04/Tube_Cutter.html

Planned Loop:
Note: Reservoir A and B are mounted together in the same frame.

Reservoir A -> Pump I -> Quick Release Set 1 -> Core i7 -> Quick Release Set 2 -> Reservoir A

Reservoir B -> Pump II -> Quick Release Set 2 -> GPU  (GTX470?) -> Quick Release Set 3 -> Reservoir B


Edited by ablahblah - 06 Apr 2010 at 6:26pm

LOL


hey justin, was just looking at your rig post, you just leave a block of silver inside the reservoir all the time? i thought you originally meant just using silver and a tub of water to purify it, simply leaving a block in the reservoir itself works?


Edited by ablahblah - 06 Apr 2010 at 6:14pm