New Build Feedback for Noob PleasePost Date: 2018-01-02 |
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Terenn
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Topic: New Build Feedback for Noob PleasePosted: 02 Jan 2018 at 1:43pm |
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There are tons of these I see on here, but all are relatively unique. As such, I am posting...
I am looking to build a new custom PC for gaming. I am looking to balance performance & functionality as well as future-proofing (if such a thing is possible) against budget. I am trying to keep the system under $3,000. I have done a bit of research into things like processors, gpu, cpu, boards, etc., but truth-be-told, I don't know anywhere near enough to be confident in what I set up. As such, if you could look at the build below and provide any feedback, I would appreciate it. Limited Time Offer 1 x [FREE] - ASUS USB-AC51 AC600 Dual Band Wireless USB Adapter ($44 value)- Case 1 x Thermaltake Versa H35 w/ Window Gaming Case- *************** Elite Build Package 1 x None- LED Fan Lighting 1 x 3x 120mm LED Case Fan- Case Lighting 1 x None- *************** Labs - Noise Reduction 1 x Sound Dampening Foam-Reduce System Noise *************** Labs - Internal Expansion 1 x None- Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor (6x 3.70GHz/12MB L3 Cache)- *************** PowerDrive 1 x None- Processor Cooling 1 x Corsair Hydro Series H60 120mm Liquid CPU Cooler-Standard 120mm Fan Memory 1 x 32 GB [8 GB x4] DDR4-3000 Memory Module-Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11GB (VR Ready)-Single Card SLI Bridge 1 x None- Motherboard 1 x GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS GAMING 7 -- RGB Fusion, 3x PCIe x16, 2x USB 3.1 Gen2, 5x USB 3.1 Gen1, 2x USB 3.1 Gen2 [Intel Optane Ready]- Power Supply 1 x 1000 Watt - Standard 80 PLUS Bronze- Advance Cabling Options 1 x [Black/Blue] - Sleeved 24-pin Motherboard + 8-pin CPU + VGA Power Extension Cables (Include Professional Wiring)- M.2/PCI-E SSD Card 1 x None- Primary Hard Drive 1 x 500 GB WD Blue SSD -- Read: 545MB/s, Write: 525MB/s-Single Drive Data Hard Drive 1 x 3 TB Toshiba Hard Drive -- 64MB Cache, 7200RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive Optical Drive 1 x LG 14x Blu-ray Rewriter, DVD Rewriter Combo Drive-Black 2nd Optical Drive 1 x ASUS 24x Double Layer DVD Rewriter Optical Drive-Black Media Card Reader / Writer 1 x 12-In-1 Internal Media Card Reader/Writer-Black Meter Display 1 x NZXT Sentry 3 Touch Screen 5 Channels Fan Controller- Sound Card 1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard- Network Card 1 x Intel Pro 10/100/1000 Network Card- USB Expansion Card 1 x PCI-Express USB 3.1 Expansion Card (2x External Port + 1x Type-c)- Operating System 1 x Windows 10 Pro + Office 365 Trial [FREE 30 Day Trial]-(64-bit) Keyboard 1 x *************** Standard Gaming Keyboard- Mouse 1 x *************** Gaming Optical Mouse-Multi-Color LED Lighting Monitor 1 x None- Monitor Cable 1 x 6.6 ft. Braided HDMI to HDMI Cable-Shielded Cable for maximum interference rejection; 4K resolution ready Speaker System 1 x None- Anything overkill, underkill, or just wrong? Thanks in advance for your feedback! Removed competitor name. Edited by Snaike - 03 Jan 2018 at 8:39am |
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bprat22
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Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 2:16pm |
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This is a Digital Storm forums and run by them.
Have you priced the Vanquish level 4 as a comparison ? And what monitor resolution are you gaming on ? That determines the video card. For gaming you don’t need 32gig ram. I wouldn’t get a Bronze rated 1000 watt psu. Single gpu setup only needs a quality 750 watt psu. Edited by bprat22 - 02 Jan 2018 at 2:19pm |
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Terenn
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Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 2:20pm |
Thanks for the reply. I did not realize this site is a builder. I "googled" custom PC forums this came up. I will certainly run a build through these guys to see how they price out. The monitors I am using are 1920 x 1080 full HD. |
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bprat22
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Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 2:52pm |
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For 1080 p monitor, a gtx 1070 will max everything out.
I suggest checking out the Vanquish level 3 for a best bang for your buck build. If the Vanquish doesn’t have everything you want, any of the other custom build, like Lumos for example , give you a lot of options. Also consider customer setvice after the fact. DS stands out from the others. This is why myself and others have been here for years.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 4:28pm |
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You couldn't pay me to buy ftom the company you looking at.
There is a reason there are so many customers here on this forums. As bp said for 1080p all you want is a 1070. The way you get best bang for the buck is to get what maxes your monitor. Also consider quality of the parts, workmanship, customer service and customer reviews. For example that psu you listed is probably crap, cooler is not great, blue wd sucks, noise package is pointless, and like i said you can't pay me enough to buy from them, have you seen the complaints they have? Edited by DST4ME - 02 Jan 2018 at 5:21pm |
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Cretae
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Posted: 02 Jan 2018 at 4:52pm |
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Terenn, welcome to our forums. We are dedicated to helping you achieve your very best gaming experience at the very best price. There is no point in spending on the latest and greatest if you don't need it. That way you save a ton of $$ to upgrade later with! Take a look around and see all the options we have here.
I just got my second DS system delivered to me today, and it's fantastic! My first one lasted me over seven years, without ANYTHING failing! I wouldn't go anywhere else.
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Snaike
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Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 8:42am |
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Top three things in a boutique builder are... in order:
#1 - Customer Service #2 - Customer Service #3 - Customer Service Also, "Customer Service" almost cracked the top 3. It was close, though. (This is why we buy from DS. You can build cheaper, but you can't build better service.) Edited by Snaike - 03 Jan 2018 at 8:42am |
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Terenn
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Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 11:27am |
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As several have suggested, I went forward and quoted as close to comprable (considering my uneducated level of knowledge) system as possible. The build is at the bottom. A couple of notes:
- Yes, I kept the GTX 1080 Ti despite that my current monitors are only 1080p. I can see an upgrade to 4K and/or incorporating VR in the not-to-distant future, especially considering feedback here. - I also kept the 32GB RAM (vs 16GB as suggested). 1) To future-proof, and 2) to keep the comparison as apt as possible. - I did downsize the PS to 750 Watts. - I couldn't find an internal 12-in-1 media reader to add. - I couldn't add a 2nd optical drive. There is about a $430 difference (plus the reduced PS, no optical or media reader). I am willing to pay more for service, but 16% more... Am I missing something? The build: Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7-8700K (6-Core) 3.70GHz Motherboard: ASUS PRIME Z370-P (Intel Z370 Chipset) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support) System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Digital Storm Performance Series Power Supply: 750W EVGA SuperNOVA (750 G) (Fully Modular) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: External USB - Blu-Ray & DVD Multi-Drive (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (6x BD-R) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Digital Storm Performance Series) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (3TB Seagate / Toshiba) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB (Performance Edition) (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong> Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) <br><strong></strong> HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - Blue - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables) <br><strong></strong> Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: Option Not Available Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.7GHz on All CPU Cores <br><strong></strong> Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <br><strong></strong> Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit Edition) <br><strong></strong> Recovery Tools: Windows 10 Installation CD Only (Clean Install with No Drivers) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: Corsair VOID (USB) Dolby 7.1 Gaming Headset <br><strong></strong> Keyboard: CM Storm Devastator II Bundle (Blue LED Edition) (Gaming Keyboard & Gaming Mouse) <br><strong></strong> Mouse: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 20-25 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) Thanks for your feedback! |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 12:52pm |
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Let me start by saying a few things
1. All pc parts are not the same, even within a same brand different models vary in quality and performance. 2. i can't compare evga's high rated modular psu with a psu that we don't even know the brand/model and thus performance /quality. 3. #2 goes for all parts. 4. How much do you want to bet that the 750w you have chosen here is better than the 1000w over there? Remember #2? This 750w psu is gold rated, that psu is bronze rated, gold is better rating for starters. There is no comparing here, even if everything was the same, which it is not, at the end the builder reputation is not the same at all. What is this oc for? If it is gaming what is the native resolution of your monitor? |
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Terenn
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Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 1:54pm |
Thanks for the feedback. The computer is multi-function - I will be using it for gaming - I play (or want to play) Star Wars Battlefront 2, EVE, WoW, Star Citizen (someday maybe if they ever finish it) now, but haven't been able to try other titles (including SWBF2) due to current system limitations. It will also be used for "household" stuff such as MS Office-type applications Quicken, etc. There will also be limited-to-moderate video and picture editing via Adobe Creative Suite. Native resolution on the 2 monitors I have now are 1920 x 1080. I haven't moved into something more due to system limitations, but would see a UHD (i.e. 3840 x 2160) purchase after this. |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 2:51pm |
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Your monitor resolution is a very important factor in what you pick out 8n your system.
A setup for 1080p isa bit different than 4k. Also the refresh rate (60hz vs 144hz) So what would you like to build for? 1080p?or 4k? Also 60hz or 144hz? |
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Terenn
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Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 3:18pm |
If I build out for two monitors @ 2560 x 1440 at 144Hz, will there be an issue with running lower-quality monitors on it temporarily... It looks like monitors will set back another $1000 (for 2). |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 03 Jan 2018 at 8:43pm |
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You xan run any monitor, the issue will be gaming performance but that gets bad ad you go up not down.
In short in yiur system is setup to max gaming at 4k, then it will do great in gaming at 4k, 1440p or 1080p, But if your system is setup to max games at say 1080p then it won't max at 1440p or do good at 4k. Building for one 1440p monitor is pretty much the same as 2 x 1440p. I assume what you are asking is to build a system for dual 1440p but fir now you have a 1080p that you will use. If that is the case and you are sure the new 2 monitors are coming in next 9 months then let's do it, otherwise i suggest waiting to get monitors and then upgrade gpu. Look at Amazon or newegg for your accessories for better prices, mouse, speaker, etc. Edited by DST4ME - 03 Jan 2018 at 8:45pm |
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Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 1:05am |
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You can run two different monitors on 1 gpu. No issues here. Running a Samsung 24" 1080p for work and an Asus 27" 1440 for play. You pick in the NVIDIA Control Panel which monitor will be primary and such.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2018 at 4:55am |
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My little GTX1070 (EVGA) runs 2 monitors no problem.
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