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    Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 3:44pm
Hello all,

The time has come for me to get a new PC. I've had a bolt 2 (980ti and 6700k) since 2015. It has served me well. In fact I can still get almost all my basic stuff done on my current computer. However, when I try and play games like CSGO my system overheats in a matter of seconds. Same with WoW but I don't play WoW as much as CSGO.

I am looking for guidance on my next build. I know I want to get the 3080 but I can't decide on the processor. My Intel 6700x has been very reliable but I'm thinking to switch over to AMD. To all you forum gurus, I am trying to decide between a 5600x and a 5800x. Could someone make a recommendation? I checked out some youtube videos and for gaming there dont seem to be a big difference between 5600x and 5800x. I play CSGO at 1024 X 768 (black bars). I use google chrome to browse the internet and use Excel a lot. I am a programmer by trade but I have a laptop for that so don't care much about programming on my desktop.

TIA.
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Sep 2021 at 11:18pm
For CPU, go with the 5600X. Of course, you can get the RTX 3080, however, it's going to be quite overkill for your current demands. While graphics card availability and pricing are slowly improving, they're by no means MSRP. Basically, it's not great to future proof by much (if at all) at the moment.

Some relevant demos:

Apex Legends | RTX 3060 Ti + Ryzen 5 5600x | 1080p - 240 Hz | RX 580 (YouTube)

This is the OLDEST CPU I have... Is it usable in 2021?? | JayzTwoCents (YouTube)
(With a GTX 1660 on a decade old platform, CSGO performance ranges from about 50 to 100 FPS.)

In fact, I would recommend you go with a setup at least similar to what I suggested recently in another configuration advice thread:

Gaming/Slight Productivity build

Edited by MrCheetah - 24 Sep 2021 at 11:18pm
• Ryzen 5600X, ROG Strix B550-I, RX 6900 XT, 32GB Vengeance, 960GB MP510
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Sep 2021 at 4:55am
5600X. On the AMD platform you can always upgrade, but that won't be needed for gaming IMHO.

At these prices, it only makes sense to me to buy what you need in a GPU. A 3080 is for 4k. A 3060 Ti will crush the games you play at 1080p for years. Newer GPUs are coming in a year or less, and the whole world hopes they will not cost 2.5x their MSRP.
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 6:04pm
thank you both for your suggestions. I just ordered 5600x/3080, LUMOS case.
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 6:15pm
also can you guys comment on config below?

System Configuration:

Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (6-Core) 4.6 GHz Turbo
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P / MSI X570-A Pro (AMD X570) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support)
System Memory: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Seagate / Toshiba / Hitachi)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Add On Card: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Software Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
CPU Boost: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Graphics: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 14-21 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Sep 2021 at 6:17pm
I really wanted to get the RGB fans but it was too expensive to just buy 1 fan for $199 :).
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 9:18am
Thanks. When you click on specifications it shows what's included. It said 1 fan.
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 12:26pm
Based on the specs, your system should have three RGB fans plus whatever DS may add to the rear and top mounting spots.

Configurator->Chassis->Model->Digital Storm Lumos->More Info
Originally posted by Digital Storm

Fan Mount Locations
Front: (x3) 120mm or (x2) 140mm
Top: (x2) 120/140mm
Rear: (x1) 120mm

Fans Included
Front: (x3) 120mm Standard Fans


Crystal Series 570X RGB ATX Mid-Tower Case | Corsair
Originally posted by Corsair

LIGHT UP YOUR BUILD
Three included SP120 RGB LED fans and an included RGB controller light up your system with vivid, customizable LED lighting.


Edited by MrCheetah - 01 Oct 2021 at 12:28pm
• Ryzen 5600X, ROG Strix B550-I, RX 6900 XT, 32GB Vengeance, 960GB MP510
• be quiet 500DX, i7 11700K, ROG Strix Z590-E, RTX 4080 ProArt + RTX 4070 Ti ProArt, 64GB HyperX Fury, 2TB SN850
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 12:49pm
Thank you Cheetah and Crate. Those RGBs look pretty sweet. Since I place the order already I'll call DS and see if I can order it separately.
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  Quote ealderson Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 8:03pm
You should be able to. I switched around two storage devices when I was in stage 3 with no issues.
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by ealderson

You should be able to. I switched around two storage devices when I was in stage 3 with no issues.
Thank you. I was able to update my order to RBG fans no issues. Its gonna be a masterpiece.
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Oct 2021 at 2:41pm
Hi all saw some reports that AMD processors are almost 10 -15% slower on windows 11. My build is for windows 10 but I eventually need to upgrade to 11. Any thoughts?

https://www.engadget.com/amd-windows-11-bug-ryzen-100550246.htmll



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Edited by Snaike - 08 Oct 2021 at 4:13pm
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 6:02am
Yeah, my thought is did you read the article? It says pretty clearly, "but suggests popular lines like the 3600X and 5600X should be minimally affected". They are working on a fix they intend to have ready THIS MONTH, and the other comes as a Windows update. By the time you get Win 11, it's a non-issue.
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 10:19am
I agree with @Cretae, it will be corrected. My guess is that Microsoft became too distracted by Intel and the need for a thread scheduler overhaul. As such, probably left the AMD optimizations for later testing.

Intel Alder Lake explained: How it enables a new generation of PCs
Originally posted by PC World

Intel’s next PC microprocessor, Alder Lake, marks a radical change for Intel. Its first mainstream Core hybrid processor mixes “performance” and “efficiency” engines to deliver either performance or longer battery life when your PC needs it most.

According to Intel, Alder Lake is due “later this fall,” most likely as a 12th-gen Core chip. Intel will manufacture three versions of Alder Lake—one for the desktop, and two more for laptops—with up to 16 cores and 24 threads. Alder Lake will also mark Intel’s introduction of PCI Express 5 and DDR5 memory, executives said at its Intel Architecture Day Thursday.

Interestingly, Intel has co-designed with Microsoft a special thread scheduler, destined for Windows 11, that will optimize performance. Desktop and laptop PCs with Alder Lake inside them should mix and match higher performance where it’s needed and offer longer battery life, as Intel continues to get better at assigning the right processor core for the right task. The company says its performance core should deliver 19 percent more performance than today’s 11th-gen “Rocket Lake” desktop chip.
• Ryzen 5600X, ROG Strix B550-I, RX 6900 XT, 32GB Vengeance, 960GB MP510
• be quiet 500DX, i7 11700K, ROG Strix Z590-E, RTX 4080 ProArt + RTX 4070 Ti ProArt, 64GB HyperX Fury, 2TB SN850
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  Quote robinv83 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Oct 2021 at 6:10pm
Thank you both. I read they are minimally impacted but impacted none the less. I feel confident they will fix AMD optimization issues. My build ships with Windows 10 so I should be good to go!
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