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    Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 7:16pm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 7:34pm
here you go Ticket# 184172 --- Price: $3246

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty


couple of changes great build

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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 7:42pm
I like your build as it is. Though you may want to consider getting a single GTX 280 and thus giving you room to expand later on that if you want.
 
The reasoning being, with 2 GTX 260s youve basically set your plan out and your upgrading will be limited to getting a 3rd 260 which has the negative downside of not scaling all that well. Obviously the other upgrade option would be to dump both the 260s when you upgrade to a better card down the road, but again now you have 2 cards to try to find a home for or just dump in the trashbin.
 
Getting a single 280 gives you current high end performance with plenty of upgrade wiggle room if you arnt satisifed. 1 GTX 280 is pretty much good enough for almost anything out there unless youre playing on a 30+ inch computer screen.
 
And if your not set on getting an nivida card you VERY majority might want to consider spending the 13 bucks more just getting a single ATI 4870x2 card. It will work on your nvidia mobo. It will provide frame rates almost on par with 2 GTX 280s, slightly lower..but not my much. The only downside of course is there is zero upgrade room unless you switch out the cards. You cant add a second 4870x2 for quad sli on that nivida board unless you switch to a different non-sli mobo.
 
 


Edited by SunfighterLC - 17 Sep 2008 at 7:47pm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 7:45pm
if he has resolution higher then 1680 x 1050 he will need to cards.

there is not much of a difference between 260 and 280.

if he wants to go sli then he needs to upgrade to a higher psu.
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 7:59pm
I somewhat disagree, i dont know the full power the 260s. But if you say its near the performance of a 280 then I know for a fact that he wont need two of them.
 
One 280 has been more then enough to play at 1900x1200 for me on every game i own, and i own a lot of games. The one exception is crysis, which i can still play at 1900x1200 but have slowdowns in certain areas that just make it annoying. putting details on medium though and its smooth as silk again.
 
I regret having a second 280 right now, maybe 3 years down the road i wont, but for the most part, its been a total waste of money on my part except when im playing crysis.
 
 
After have a 9800GX2 and a single 280 and then a dual 280 set up. I can basically say ive had 2 SLI set ups and a single card set up and ive seen what the two are like. Which is why I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend that when you have the money, its best to just go with a single highest end card to start out, and only add a second one if you arnt satisifed with the frames you are getting.
 
1000W corsair has been more then enough for my 2 GTX 280 FTW edition (Clocks at 715 ((factory OC+ My OC)) vs 602 standard). So itd be more then enough for 2 GTX 260s if he wants to stay with that. Tri Sli probably wont work..but then again...tri sli doesnt scale very well at all so i dont even bother to think about it. .
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 8:01pm
Kelly said some games you will need dual core if your resulotion is over 1650 x 1050

as for their performance you can look the gpu thread

you also think there is no need for quad core
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 8:19pm
There isnt a need for a quad cores yet.  When the programers catch up then the quads will be fully utalized. But until then its not the number of cores that matter, its the individual speed of the cores that matter. Harleyman knows this now =P
 
I recommend brandon that you go over the differences and charts on a lot of sites between the 260 and the 280. The 280 does indeed have a lower power to $ ratio, but youre making a 3K computer. Would you rather have a 3.3K computer that is very inflexable when it comes to video card upgrades or a 3.1K computer which has while has slightly less GPU power will be more then enough for any game out there now and im gonna say 2-3 years into the future AND have much greater flexability when it comes to upgrading the card down the road? 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 8:29pm
NP, my pleasure, as for the case, not sure I'm clear, are you talking about upgrading from HAF? if yes then HAF is the best case we have as far as I know.

@SLC, I already proved to you in the other thread that your dual can't do what my quad can so stop saying there is not need for quad when your dual can't hang with quad
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 8:34pm
match your ram to your CPU's FSB ;)

then from the they are both being oced, so no need to go with higher ram, just like your CPU, its being OCed so you can enjoy higher speeds without paying for it

OCZ cause corsair has been having problems

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 8:50pm
if can wait a whole new chip is suppose to come out (Nehalem) and me and some others are waiting for it.

It should be a better chip, and it should impact the current prices too, bringing them down.

so if you can wait, do so, this same system could cost you less in a few weeks

just something to think about

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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 9:00pm
Yea why waste the 2 extra cores on the quad when you can waste 2 normal and 2 virtual cores on the nehalem. Im sure the programers will be up to speed on the 8 core CPUs by the year 2108.
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I got programs that will use 8 cores right now, BTW how long will you be spending in denial land?
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I joke with SLC, he is a cool guy
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 9:17pm

*cough* dual core vs quad core review site conclusion:

 
"Let me give you the heads up now: the quad core would undoubtedly be a lot faster. We already know that. I must admit though, I was surprised that I couldn't notice any gameplay experience improvement with the quad core over the dual core. I was expecting to see some. But this comes down to situations that are out of the control of the CPU. Whether it be four or twenty four cores, it won't make a difference if even the fastest graphics card on the market is bottlenecked. If you're in a traffic jam, it doesn't matter whether you have a Porsche or a Volkswagen, you're not going to get there any faster. The Extreme Edition CPU is marketed to gamers (and video/graphics editors) but as far as gamers in concerned, I have no doubt that you would be much better off investing your extra dollars in either a second graphics card (for SLi or Crossfire) or more RAM, bigger hard drives etc."
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 9:34pm
Like I said, how long are you gonna be stock in denial land? PCs are not meant to just run games, I know in denial land they are but here in reality you can use them many ways

dual core just can't do the work that a quad core can, just find a way of accepting the truth man, all the quotes in the world are not going to make dual core do what a quad core can
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