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    Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 9:36am

So after playing the Star Wars Old Republic beta at my brother’s house I am going to drop rift and pick it up when it launches.  The minimum system specs are...

 

Disk Drive - 8x or better *Minimum of 256MB of on-board RAM and Shader 3.0 or better support.

Operating - System Windows XP, Vista/7

Processor - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4000+ or better · Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.0GHz or better

RAM - Windows XP: 1.5GB · Windows Vista and Windows 7: 2GB · PCs using a built-in graphical chipset, 2GB RAM recommended.

Video Card - ATI X1800 or better* · nVidia 7800 or better* · Intel 4100 Integrated Graphics or better*

 

 

Now this will be the main game I will be playing so I only really care about if it will run this game.  I currently game on a 1440x900 monitor.  I would like to get a U2212HM Dell to upgrade from my current monitor. 

 

I have $2,000.00 right now and will have another $500.00 by the middle of next month, I was looking at the ODE lvl 1 but could wait to swing the ODE lvl 3 if that would be a better gaming rigs.  I looked at custom configs but couldn't really find anything to beat thee prices of the ODE line.  Any suggestions would be helpful.
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You can't beat ode prices, but then again ode does not have the top performing parts either, custom config will give you better reliable/performing parts, but it will cost you.

for your new res (u22) I would recommend single gpu, however for other games you may need sli.

your options are to forgo sli ability and get ode 1.

go sli now with ode 3

get custom config with better parts that can do sli but has one gpu for now, you drop the second one in if you need it (cost of this config will be around $2000)

keep in mind new gpus are coming out in the next couple of months.

minimum or recommend specs never really represent what it takes to max a game out.

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So with the custom one all I would need to do is drop the second card into it if I needed to?  From my reasearch SWOR wont be utilizing SLI when it launches.  Also from some of the other post the monitor is a solid one correct?  Could you suggest a build with only a single card but the ablitly to drop a second one into?
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Hi Zipter
 
DST keeps getting kicked off the servers like I was days ago so I'll give you what DST might give ya until he gets back.  Bear in mind I don't have it all together in config suggestions like him.
 
Type in config 630294 into Load config. for about $2100.  The deluxe mobo and 1050 corsair ps will give you sli capability down the road.  Normally the 942 HafX case is suggested but their out of stock so I put in 600t.  942Hafx Nvidia edition is great if you don't mind all the green.  HDD is 500MB but whatever your needs can be adjusted by you.   The A70 cooler is great. 
And yes, with this it's a simple matter to add another gpu. 
The ODE 3 can't be beat for bang for the buck with ssd, sli570, but the custom does give you better ps, cpu cooler. 
 
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Yes all you do is drop in the second card.

for monitor I like the u23 and 24, u22 has the lowest specs and etc.

can't config a system for you right now cause the config page is acting up like the forum.

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Here you go Ticket# 630305 --- $2,187 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) (EVGA Edition)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

For case and best possible ariflow for your money you want the haf x.

they are out of the haf x here you need to order it from newegg and have it shipped to ds so they can use it for your config.

click here to order

You can ask DS to order it for you from newegg but the cost will endup being $50 more.

Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the top, so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans:

haf 200mm non led fan

Ask for vcore lower then 1.4 for your oc.

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Here is the configuration suggested by bprat22. I would get Stage 2 OC. It is a good build where you can add a SSD or second GPU later if you want them.

You can get the ODE-3 for $200 more and have SLI GPU, a SSD and stage-2 OC right now. The ODE-3 doesn't have as good of a MoBo, power supply or cooling. The ODE-3 does have a bigger HD.

Frank

Cost: $2110
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair 600T
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) (Model: Blue Edition)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) (EVGA Edition)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
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Guys why pay $2110 for no ssds when you can pay $70 more and have a ssd? not to mention a bigger case with better airflow.

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Posts: 20391 		  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 12:01pm
Hey FrankW  How do you guys list the config parts, instead of the busy, hard to read version like mine??
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Its probably the browser you are using.

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Hi bprat22,

First you edit your configuration to how you want it. On the Customization page look at the top of the page and click "Save & Email". It will take you to another page with a list of the components. Simply copy and paste the components into your post.

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Easy enough. Thanks.
 
DST, Zipter doesn't want HDD? 
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I thought you were already copying from the save page.

anytime you can ssd takes priority over hdd, so when you can get the intel 320 120GB for $70 more only vs the much slower 500GB, then you go ssd, he adds hdd later, for 2 reasons:

1. as I mentioned ssd takes priority over hdd due to perfomrance.

2. hdd prices are very high right now, it is because of it that we are advising people to get the 500GB vs the 1TB BC. Its better to get the ssd now and add the 1TB BC later when hdd prices come back down to normal, they are almost triple right now.

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DST, I have tried copy/paste months ago and it didn't work. I copy/paste all the time elsewhere.   Just tried it again after FrankW mentioned it and now it works great. 
 
Go figure. Confused
 
I always thought an ole fashion HDD took priority, with SSD if you can swing the $$$.  I gotta get one some day.
 
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When prices of hdd was normal, hdd was recommend cause the ssd difference was over $150, but now with hdd prices high, the ssd is only a few more dollars so now we go with ssd whenever the difference is that small.

when the hdd prices come back down and the difference becomes huge again, we go back to hdd first.

Thats weired how your copy/paste didn't work before but does now, I've been doing it for over 3 years.

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If got the U2412m from dell would I need to change anything in the config?  Also since none of my current games use SLI is it a waste of money to be ready for it or is it just better future investment?
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Thats a tough call zipter, here is the way I look at it, I like to always have as many if not all options available to me just in case. Now that of course depends on the budget.

If you know you don't need sli, then we can do a single gpu system or you can go ode 1, the trade off is that if in a year or so, any of your games or any new games you many like needs sli, you are not going to be able to do it, your options will be to get new mobo and psu or a new pc.

So thats the tough call, you wanna chance it and save some money, or not chance it and spend more.

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I have the money bugeted for the computer so I would rather get it and drop a card into the rig and play away. 
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In that case look at my post with the config, read the whole thing and let me know what you think?

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Hi Zipter,

I am someone who said that I would never use SLI and built my system based from that perspective. What I didn't consider is that because my system was such a big improvement I am gaming more. So here I sit with my single GPU system with no way to upgrade with out buying two GPUs, a new MoBo and a new power supply. So very costly to go SLI. I regret not configuring my system with more upgrade options.

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Looks solid DST, but quick question the ODE lvl 3 is only a couple hundred more than your config but it already has a second card and the Hdd installed.  Is the difference have something to do with the brand of the parts?
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Originally posted by DST4ME

You can't beat ode prices, but then again ode does not have the top performing parts either, custom config will give you better reliable/performing parts, but it will cost you.

get custom config with better parts that can do sli but has one gpu for now, you drop the second one in if you need it (cost of this config will be around $2000)



As I mentioned before/above you are getting better performing more reliable parts.

Also in the future if you want to upgrade the sli to future cards and they have needs of a 580 sli the 800w can't do it.

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Got it, thanks DST.
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Our pleasure and good luck                     

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