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    Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 2:56pm
res is 1920x1200

budget is around 2500

games mostly mmo's with some fps's thrown in

usage, strictly gaming!

needs, well to be honest i would love to go sli now and mayb skimp around tht, mayb add more memory down the road etc, i will be looking forward to playing the new elder scrolls wen it comes out so w/e it takes to run it at my res is wat i need and at hi settings. but as of now im playing mostly wow and cod. i really wanna play wow at max settings at 1900x1200

o ya DS kicks ass! by far best forums around, and i just cant wait to get this comp Awesome
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Mar 2011 at 11:46pm
for wow you need single gpu, for some fps you may need sli, I will give you a config with one gpu but can handle 2, you can drop in the second if you see you need sli, no point in wasting money on a second card if you won't benefit from it.

Here you go Ticket# 503365 --- $2243 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.5GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: Crysis: Maximum Edition Warhead + War (Pre-Install, apply updates, and test gameplay with my system
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Gaming USB Desktop (Multimedia Keyboard)
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

In a few month buy a ssd and use that for HDD1 for OS/Games/Apps, and push the 1TB to HDD2 and use it for storage.

HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games

HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage

Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the top, so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans:

haf 200mm non led fan
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 12:45am
i realy want to do sli now so i dont have to worry about tht in the future, i will be

playin more thn just wow, but i will take ur advice. will a single 570 be enough for me

 at tht res? say for max settings on wow, and mayb some fps games like crysis on

 medium or so settings? my res atm is 1900x1200 but will be mostly focusing on

 upgrading my monitor to a higher res thts y i kinda want to do sli now. but thnx for

 the response dst! btw u dont get enough credit on these forums keep up the good work!  Awesome
 another question wat do u think about sound cards for gaming? motherboard audio sufficient? thnx again should be ordering real soon, cant wait im on a 6 year old laptop tht ive been gaming on hehe
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 12:47am
another thing, say i do get a single now should i go for the 580?
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  Quote Divine Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 1:18am
They will tell you the performance gain/cost ratio is way to high at the moment for the 580 because of high demand. I went with it anyways, cause I didn't care if I was paying more for a small performance gain. But it is best if your certain your going single card, just cost a bit more up from the 570 at the moment like I said because of high demand.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Mar 2011 at 1:42am
when the difference actually counts, aka fps around 50 to 60 fps, the difference between 570 and 580 is like 10 fps max, if a single 570 can't do it, single 580 won't cut it either, and you can oc the 570 and get around the same performance as the 580, it turns out to be more then $10 for each fps for those 10fps differences, and that is not worth it, for those reasons, we don't recommend the 580.

At your res wow should be just fine with a 570, crysis with no aa and medium settings should do fine.

adding a gpu is extremely simple for somebody who has never done it.

now if you are going to 2560 x 1600 res, then I would go sli now, do do that simply click on my config and chose 2 x 570/6970, 6970 IMHO is better.

I'm not a big sound expert to be honest, I'm told from people that are, "if sound quality is important to you then get a sound card, otherwise the mobo sound these days are pretty good".

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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 12:00am
woo stage 3!

cant wait this is killing me! lol

for the wait, im sure i will be pleased Awesome
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 12:04am
im going from a 6 year old hp laptop to this beast i think im gonna pass out when the ups guy gets here lol

o ya i also went with the 27inch ips dell model, any feedback on tht...im waiting for that to come also should be here in a couple days wooooooooooooooo!!!!
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 12:42am
lol you are in for 2 big shocks of your life the dell ips panel and the pc
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 2:39pm
ya i bet, i went with ur config w/ sli 570, was goin 580's but with some talking to ppl went with the 570's.

prolly upgrade to a ssd and a blu ray drive in a couple months, the blu ray drive shouldn't be to hard to install myself huh? o ya thnx again dst for all ur insight on the build helped me out big time Awesome
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 3:38pm
You made teh right choice

the bluray drive will be easy to install.

if you need help come back here and let us know.

My pleasure and good luck
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  Quote RiceEatin2000GT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 3:40pm
congrats! and sli 570's ftw
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 1:04pm
should i invest in a surge protector or something along those lines cuz im in FL lighting capital, power goes out all the time and was just wandering if tht will effect this comp. i have a cheapy dont really know wat it is, it plugs in the wall and i just plug everything into tht, dont think its protecting anything. any feedback on what model or what i should look at would be awesome.

 did get the monitor the other day and wow!!! have it plugged into my laptop right now, all this extra space is making me tired haha, great monitor out of the box would recommend it for sure
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 4:09pm
Those IPS panels are somethings else

a good psu does a great job of protecting itself, so IMHO, either a proper battery backup or plug it straight to the wall.
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Mar 2011 at 1:24pm
well still in stage three, been their for awhile now, is tht stage the longest or ...

idk hopefully i get a email later today tellin me its in stage 4 Chilling

cmon stage 4!!!!

i dont think ive checked my email this much in my life Excited
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Mar 2011 at 2:46pm
LOL everybody checks their status and looks for the email.

perhaps they are waiting for a part.
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 2:36pm
still in stage three, ya must be waiting on a part or pretty busy, now i wish i would of prioritized this build hehe Hahaha

just to clarify im running my new monitor atm native res is 2560x1440 and i want to make sure tht 2x 570's is the right choice for me if not i need to contact ds and change it. im sure it will be fine maybe im just a lil to anxious lol
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Mar 2011 at 4:24pm
sli 570 or 6970 is good, 6970 could better in some games due to higher vram. for 1900 x 1200 I like single or sli 570, for 2560 x 1600 I like cf 6970.
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2011 at 1:35am
wooo!!!

STAGE 5!! AwesomeAwesome
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Testing stage, this might take a bit
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:36am
woo stage 7!! AwesomeAwesome

overclocked to 4.3

im going to be looking into oc the video cards when i get this beast, any good guides or tips for dumb ppl? lol
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:48am
Originally posted by DST4ME

when the difference actually counts, aka fps around 50 to 60 fps, the difference between 570 and 580 is like 10 fps max, if a single 570 can't do it, single 580 won't cut it either, and you can oc the 570 and get around the same performance as the 580, it turns out to be more then $10 for each fps for those 10fps differences, and that is not worth it, for those reasons, we don't recommend the 580.

At your res wow should be just fine with a 570, crysis with no aa and medium settings should do fine.

adding a gpu is extremely simple for somebody who has never done it.

now if you are going to 2560 x 1600 res, then I would go sli now, do do that simply click on my config and chose 2 x 570

I'm not a big sound expert to be honest, I'm told from people that are, "if sound quality is important to you then get a sound card, otherwise the mobo sound these days are pretty good".
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:52am
kinda scarin me their, i see u changed ur post i hope these 570's will do the trick if not then i guess ill just have to deal with it, but changin ur post like tht has got me worried lol, but no worries its all good u did ur best i wasnt as clear as i should of been

will oc them change ne thing if i do run into some issues playin at this res or..
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  Quote Regent Square Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 11:03am
What is your cpu voltage?
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 3:03pm
um not to sure wasnt on the email they sent me just the processor oc was, atleast thts all i saw

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  Quote Regent Square Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 3:13pm
Oh, ok. Thank you for response.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 2:05am
Originally posted by Aka

kinda scarin me their, i see u changed ur post i hope these 570's will do the trick if not then i guess ill just have to deal with it, but changin ur post like tht has got me worried lol, but no worries its all good u did ur best i wasnt as clear as i should of beenwill oc them change ne thing if i do run into some issues playin at this res or..


You will be fine, I just wanted teh readers to know that both 570/6970 sli/cf will do fine at higher res but I like the 6970 for more vram.
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  Quote Bensonc120 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 11:48am

DST4ME, us noobs all appreciate the feedback from you as well as the other regulars here on the DS forums.  Trying to configure a new rig is very intimidating with all the options out there.

With regard to 570SLI vs 6970CF, I've heard some concerns regarding the heat level and the noise level of the 6970CF.  I don't care so much about noise level, but would the heat level concern you?

 

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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 6:05pm
o i c, totally understandable, well tht puts me at ease a bit hehe, ya im like loosin my mind here, just cant wait no longer for this comp lol

ya i figured it was for the readers, comp was sent out yesterday so im guessing maybe a week till it arrives.

ill post my pics and thoughts wen she comes, till then thnx again dst4me, big help! i

   was also wandering where is a good guide or website i can check out for
      
  oc'n these puppys, i mean i mine aswell do some oc'n right. Wink
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@Bensonc120, heat issues are personl, biggest factore is room temp, if your room temp is warm then all your temps is gonna be warm, there is also the cooling solution for the card, if its stock cooling then the case's airflow will play a good role also, with a case like haf x, and room temp of 70-75f, there should be no heat issue.

Then there is how far apart cards are from each other in sli/cf, there are many factors that go into heat, its hard to compare one person's setup to another.

Having said all that, here dealing with DS, if our temps are over 85c, DS will deal with the situation, as those are not acceptable temps, 85c and below are acceptable.

@Aka, can't wait for pics and specs

I'm not aware of a good oc guide for SB right now but then again I have not had much time to do anything with oc for a good while now.
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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 1:56am
some1 out their tht can help a poor soul out?, curious on how to oc sli 570's.

  rig will b here in a few days and just want to know if a noob like me can handle oc'n these puppy's, on the other hand may not even need to, but would love to know how just incase. StrongAwesome
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  Quote FR3SHM3AT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 10:23am
Can't help you with overclock, not that you need it. EvGA website has a. SLI Enhancement driver with some support for latest games. Works great. Might want to give it a try.

I'm assuming MSI afterburner for the overclock.


Good luck and Congrats

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  Quote Aka Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 2:11pm
hey thnx alot for the reply, i will deff look into tht for sure, ya im hoping i dont even

need to oc them, but on the other hand if i can get some more juice out of em wat the hell lol, Awesome
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Aka,

download MSI Afterburner.

you simply raise clock and shader and test the gpu to make sure the oc is stable, when you get to the point where its failing your tests, then raise the core voltage a bit, and try not to go over 1.100, with 1.125 being your max.

first you need to go up slow, from 700 to 750 then 800, once at 800 go up slower in 10Mhz.

you don't have to oc memory.

as you go up slow, each time you want to test the gpu with fah gpu client or something like furmark or Kombuster and if it passes the tests, then you up the core a little gain as mentioned before and run the test again.

remember you want the highest stable speed with lowest voltage, the lower the voltage the better.
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