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    Posted: 30 Oct 2007 at 6:14pm

We are going to be releasing new updates to the configuration editor.

Here are some of the new additions:
 
1. Separate overclocking options for: processor, memory, and video cards.
2. Separate cooling options for: processor, memory, and video cards.
3. Third option for a extra storage drive.
4. Option for applying Window's Service Tweaks to reduce services and free up resources for maximum performance.
5. Option for purchasing a hot selling title (Example: Crysis, COD4, Hellgate, etc) and having Digital Storm install the game, configure it, and test game-play.
6. Benefits with Digital Storm's certification on the eVGA Step-Up program
7. Able to compare the system you have configured with our exclusive web based Futuremark analysis software. This allows you to see how fast the system you have configured is, compared to your current system.
 
If you guys would like any-thing else, or any comments, changes, etc, please post them now! Wink
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nice job! 

Let's see CH Products, Saitek, and Razer on here now!
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Only a couple of other items.

I noticed someone has been putting in some hours fixing the configurations screen, but there are still a few errors here and there. This is in no way a criticism of the hard work already done. Thumbs%20Up

Broken links and errors I know of:
 
All options other than OS selections: No Thanks (broken link)- maybe a link to a text block here like the one for no operating system?
 
Cases: Digital Storm Thunder (broken link)
 
PSU's: TT 600W (Broken link)
 
CPU's: Q6600 is listed as a QX6600 in the caption above the picture. AMD X2 5600 (broken link), AMD X2 6000 (broken link)
 
MoBo's: 650i (Broken Link), LT board has an A1 revision pictured.

RAM: 2GB 800Mhz Dominator (broken link), 4GB 800Mhz Dominator RAM (broken link), 4GB 1250Mhz Dominator RAM (broken link)

 HDD: 74GB Raptor listed in specifications as 16MB cache, 80GB WD HDD listed as 800GB in features section.
 
Suggestion: Photos of RAID configurations be made to reflect two drives. Even if it's just a photoshop in two layers of the same drive phot used in every other HDD product field.
 
RAID 0 link is broken.
 
Lightscribe DVD ROM is listed as E-IDE (isn't this SATA?) Blueray DVD also listed as E-IDE, unsure on accuracy of listing.
 
Video Cards: 7900GT (broken link), 7900GTX links to 7950GX2, 7950 (broken link), 8800GT (broken link), 8800GT SLI (broken link), 8800GTS 640MB (no picture in link).
 
Cooling options: Stage one cooling defaults to the cooling information page (unsure if this is intentional).  Both stage two and stage three cooling options list fan size twice, with the first entry as "E6600" in specifications.
 
 
Digital Storm Recovery Kit: No Photo
 
Operating systems: all link to XP photo and endorsement.
 
Warranty: 4 year plan links to 3 year plan photo and description.
 
Support: No Photo
 
That's everything I could find in a quick look through the updated fields.
 
There are also some punctuation errors in the overview fields and some oddly phrased sections that I was going to suggest alternates for, but I'm running out of steam to post more. LOL 
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When you change an item, the price changes but the -$ and the +$ doesn't even though you've selected a different item, any way to fix that?
 
Add a no GPU order.
 
Place a message about if you want special parts/orders to call.
 
For the liquid cooling you guys should create a How to keep up to date type page for people who are unsure of what you'd need to do after a few months to keep things running smooth.
 
New GPU comparison chart.


Edited by sundowner - 30 Oct 2007 at 8:27pm
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That's pretty much all of the stuff I wanted when I was ordering..  Very nice!
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Originally posted by Alex

5. Option for purchasing a hot selling title (Example: Crysis, COD4, Hellgate, etc) and having Digital Storm install the game, configure it, and test game-play.
If you guys would like any-thing else, or any comments, changes, etc, please post them now! Wink
 
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Originally posted by Alex

Here are some of the new additions:
 
1. Separate overclocking options for: processor, memory, and video cards.
2. Separate cooling options for: processor, memory, and video cards.
 
#2 Obviously makes sense, but why have separate overclocking options for each component? Would each overclocking option be priced separately? I guess I can understand separating the CPU and memory from the GPU, but why separate the CPU from the RAM?
 
An alternative might be to define "Conservative" and "Extreme" overclocking options. The Conservative option would be similar to the air-cooled version of what DSO does now; rock solid and suitable for day-in-day-out operation.  The Extreme version might or might not require liquid. "Extreme" would at least tolerate higher temps on air, pulling out all the stops, and perhaps be a littler riskier, a little less stable, and not recommended for office work.
 
I know it sounds contrary to DSO's philosophy of 100% reliability. But it sounds to me like there are a signifciant group of customers who would trade the occasional system crash for a few more "tenths" on their overclock. Could DSO provide an Extreme profile to use only when gaming?


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Originally posted by Alex

6. Benefits with Digital Storm's certification on the eVGA Step-Up program


Seems like this should be a free perk of being a DSO customer, and plays in with the open architecture theme. However I admit ignorance in terms of the background of setting up a certification - does that cost-prohibit it for you guys?

Chris


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Chris,
 
I suspect the stepup progam is a perk that just gets listed on the config screen like the warranty does now.
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offer razor mice... you folks build THE gaming machine... compliment it with the best
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Originally posted by ed1371

offer razor mice... you folks build THE gaming machine... compliment it with the best

why would they sell razor mice if u want them to sell the best ? <3 lol
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and what would you say is better?
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Originally posted by ed1371

and what would you say is better?

and u have to ask this why ? lol u know i LOVE my logitech stuff !
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Comments apply to the the Twister Pro configuration screen...
Add the Cooler Master Cosmos case to the case comparison chart.
 
In general, your selection options don't seem (to my novice eye) to have any organization to them. Most lists that I see like this on competitor site are organized from least to most powerful, or least expensive to most expensive. Pick an ordering scheme and apply it as consistently as possible.
 
You mentioned that you're adding separate overclocking options for processor, memory and video cards. I'm techie enough but not techie enough to want to spend hours figuring this stuff out. I'd love to see a slider bar. The slider bar would have "mazximize stability" on one end and "maximize performance (at the risk of stability) at the other end and customers could set their preference/comfort level. DS could use this to help guide the customer through their build.
 
The Warranty options are between 3 and 4 years of warranty, but the Info screen mentions just 2 years of warranty. Which is correct?
 
I'd like to see a comparison chart detailing the different memory options. Not every single option, but some sort of matrix.
 
Just some thoughts. Keep up the good work!
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A graph for the different performance scores with the different speeds of ram would be nice.
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More memory options (like 4 gig (2x2) and 8 gigs) and maybe some verbage for the unwarry if they select a 32 bit OS with 4 or 8 gigs of RAM.
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Originally posted by Alex

We are going to be releasing new updates to the configuration editor.

5. Option for purchasing a hot selling title (Example: Crysis, COD4, Hellgate, etc) and having Digital Storm install the game, configure it, and test game-play.


So when can we expect these new updates? Big%20smile

I especially like the sound of number 5 Thumbs%20Up
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Another Option for RAM selection would be nice if we can also get 3GB of RAM too instead of 2 and 4.
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This thread: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=856&PID=8015#8015
 
indicates it would be a good idea to list which case is appropriate for various setups.
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* Let people pick their initial usernames in the OS(es) you're installing to accommodate their preferences/privacy requirements.

*  Ask people if they want to talk to a DS rep before their config enters stage 1 (to get advice/critique on their build), but make it optional so people who know what they want aren't held up by this step.

* Provide shipping estimates that are based on the config instead of generic.
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When will the update for it be made??
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Very good comments, all have been documented. Update should be in effect within 2-3 days.
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Ahh, so I can expect that GPU overclock flash soon?  Big%20smile
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thanks need it quickly cause im getting new ds comp and i dont know exactly when ill get it
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When you're doing a custom build, you should start from $0.00 and have the option to choose from every possible selection(ie all cpu's/motherboards) based on compatibility(IE if you select an AMD cpu you lose the Intel mobo's and reverse) and pricing.
 
 
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Needs a second/ third OS field.
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I would like to see an option for dual booting as well, along with a better section for setting up a RAID configuration, or even more than just 2 HD slot options. I like the fact DS keeps their offerings minimal, but one thing I would offer is at least one other choice of motherboard. Any variant of the Intel P35 or X38. I think customers that don't want or need SLI may prefer other boards than the 680i. 
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Gotta admit I really like a lot of the added options you folks made.

Don't like that you dropped most of the thermaltake power supplies.

I have read MULTIPLE times on the forums that if there is something in particular that you want that isnt in the selection to call... a lot of prospective customers may not see that... maybe a banner or something to the effect that:

"dont see a particular part/component you want? Give us a call and we will get it to build a truly custom system for you"



 
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We just added:

1. Dual booting in the Windows drop down box
2. The Asus Maximus X38 chipset motherboard
3. CrossFire setup of two ATI Radeon 3870 video cards
 
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Awesome! Thumbs%20Up
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Alex,
You originally posted
"7. Able to compare the system you have configured with our exclusive web based Futuremark analysis software. This allows you to see how fast the system you have configured is, compared to your current system."
 
Is this up and running already? Maybe it's there and I'm not seeing it in the Twister Pro page. If it's not up, do you have an ETA for it?
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This is just an idea, but none of your monitors have any details listed in the configuration editor. For someone who is looking to purchase a monitor, especially for gaming, response rate, contrast ratio, and supported resolutions may affect monitor purchase.
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The comparison system should be up within a week. We really do need to get the details for each part done.
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No worries. Just curious. Thanks!
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I was just noticing the option to overclock as an upcharge...which is very cool, but it would be very beneficial to let the customers know how much you'll be cranking things up. For example, $35 to OC the CPU seems like a bargen unless it's only OC'd from 2.66Mhz to 2.8Mhz.
 
You might want to include some info in there regarding how much "as much as possible" is. I can't imagine anyone not paying the $35 upcharge if you took a 2.66 and turned it up to 3.2. Anyway, it would be great to know how you guys define "complete stability" when overclocking various components. Maybe list a range or something. It will probably cut down on calls or emails...unless you like high call volume. Wink
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