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Post Date: 2012-03-30

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    Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 11:55am
Hello all.  The time has come for me to invest in a new computer.  I went through and created an initial config.  Please review and provide any thoughs; thanks.
 

1. Your Budget: under $4400

 
2. Expectations: Being able to play games (fps, rts, and mmo) with graphics turned up @ 1920 x 1080, readiness for sli and ivy bridge cpus last this year.
 
3. Usage: Mainly gaming (BF3, Diablo 3, etc), web surfing, maybe some 3d gaming.
 
4. Special Needs: none
 

Saved Ticket Number: 670697

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P9X79 DELUXE (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)

System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Lite-On iHBS112)
Optical Drive 2: - DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (EVGA)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium HD 24-bit 96KHz
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
 
Questions:
 
Stage 2 cooling:  I have selected the D14.  Should I go for the H100 with the 3930k?  How about even if I plan to go sli later this year; and maybe an ivy bridge upgrade next year.
 
I'm aware about the under 1.4 vcore, and getting the 200mm fans at the top of the case.
 
 
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:11pm
Hi 2nd2none06...Welcome to the forums.
 
This build is great.Big%20Smile  Just a couple of comments, because that's what we do.Big%20Smile
 
The X79 platform is not needed for gaming unless you plan on tri-sli, 3x gpu in the future.  Nothing wrong with it, just not needed for gaming.  The ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3  with the i7-2600k would do it and be pcie 3.0 ready for ivy bridge.   There is some concern right now that the X79 paltform isn't ready for ivy bridge, but most think they will fix it, but .....
 
For the X79 mobo with stage 2 oc'ing you do need to go H100 cooler, according to DS's testing.  For the Z68 platform the D14 would work great.
 
You don't need 16GB memory but the X79 config doesn't allow you to drop it to 8GB, but itis all gaming needs.
 
 
Hope this helps and good luck.Big%20Smile
 
A little correction to my thoughts..Cry....for your added audio card you might want the X79 platform.  Otherwise if you go sli, the second card will only have x4 lanes instead of x8 lanes, which would reduce it's performance.    Z68 only has 16 lanes total and X79 has 40.  With ivy bridge later this year, if you swapped the cpu, then the z68 might be ok, with ivy bridge doubling things up.  Not 100% how this will work.  Time will tell.
 


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  Quote 2nd2none06 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:26pm
Thanks for your help Bprat! 
 

I have a question.  Where can I find the i7-2600k and the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 on the configuration page?  Thanks.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:28pm
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/compspecialdeals.asp
It's the dreadnought level 3.  Just change the cpu from i7-2700 to i7-2600k .  The 2700k isn't worth the difference.
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  Quote 2nd2none06 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:41pm
Ok thanks!  Time to see how much $$ I can save.  Awesome
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  Quote kenage Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 12:58pm
Until the price reduction Intel put out on 2700K, it's not worth it. Intel cut the difference to like $10, which isn't bad for another 100mhz, but not a deal-breaker either.

The Ivy Bridge-E chips currently has a forecast release of 1H 2013, if I remember correctly. That's a long time to wait for it, considering the moderate amount of performance gains and power reduction seen between the current Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge.

I've also heard speculation on a site or two that Ivy Bridge-E won't fit the 2011 chipset either. While I'm pretty sure it's just rumors, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to squeeze more power out of the Ivy Bridge architecture and bumped up the pin count.
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  Quote 2nd2none06 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 8:17am
Here is my updated build; please provide any thoughts.  I'm looking to order this week.  What are your thoughts on integrated sound vs a sound card?  Is there an impact on i7 cpu cycles when gaming with integrated audio?  Will this mobo be compatible with the Ivy Bridge chips?  I chose the the extreme-z cause it was rated the top gaming Z68 mobo.  The 1200w PS is for maybe tri-sli.  If not; will a 1050w PS work for this build?  Thanks.
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Intel Z68 Chipset) (Features Intel Quick Sync Technology)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Lite-On iHBS112)
Optical Drive 2: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (EVGA)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 9:06am
That build looks good.
 
The only reason for that mobo would be if you wanted to tri-sli in the future, otherwise the cheaper z68 v-pro gen would do.  Normally the Z68 mobo's won't tri-sli without a big hit in lanes available (x8,x4,x4), but this board does have 4x PCIe x16 slots and a NVidia chipset to allow more pci lanes, supposedly(x8,x16,x16).  I'm not sure of this, but reviews say yes.
 
Not sure what you would need tri-sli, 3x 680's for, especially with you initial expectations.  Sli gtx680's will play anything you throw at it on the 1920x1050 resolution.
 
If you did tri-sli in the future there wouldn't be room on the mobo for the audio card, all pci's would be blocked.  Plus the audio card does take lanes away from gpu's.  For sli and audio card with your mobo doesn't seem to be a problem, but would be with the V-pro gen 3.(x8,x4,x4)
 
This mobo is not listed as PCIe.3.0 support.  http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/PCIe3_Ready/
 
Onboard audio is very good.  Whether you need sound card depends on your setup.  I'll let others comment on audio cards vs integrated.
 
For sli, the 1050HX is all you need.  The 1200W would be for tri-sli.
 
You don't need 16GB ram for gaming, but you might have other needs.
 
Alot depends on whether you need 3x 680's in the future. 
 
The rest of the build is right on. 
 
Hope this helps.Big%20Smile
 
 
 
 


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  Quote 2nd2none06 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 9:29am
So if I go with the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 and SLI  680s, would the gpu lanes be x8 and x8?
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 9:33am
Yes, for the gpu's without audio card.    If you add the audio card into one of the pcie slots, then the gpu's and audio go x8,x4,x4.
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  Quote 2nd2none06 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 10:06am
That helps make my decision, thanks alot! 
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Update:  I ordered my pc on 4/2 and is scheduled to be in my hands 4/17.  Thanks to those that replied.  A review with pics coming soon!

System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3  (Intel Z68 Chipset) (Features Intel Quick Sync Technology)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (EVGA)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: Trend Micro Titanium Internet Security
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty


Edited by 2nd2none06 - 12 Apr 2012 at 9:36am
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Apr 2012 at 10:35am
Nice Awesome  That's a great rig.
 
Yep, the review and pics would be great. Big%20Smile
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