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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: New guy, need help with build please
    Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 11:06pm
Hey, everyone. I'm new here, and like most new people, I need some help with building a computer to meet my budget.

I need something to fit my $1,000 budget. I plan on getting 3 computers of the same type, so that would technically be $3,000 Wacko

EDIT: Can you take a look at this one?

AMD Quad
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=246100

Intel Duo
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=246106

Which would be my best bang for my buck?
I won't be getting 3 of them for a couple months.






I was looking at alot of computer places like iBuyPower, CyberpowerPC and stuff.
DS seems like they're the best option for me. The thing I don't get is why are all the computer companies in California.. lol. No worries, though. Shipping is good these days. (and I trust DS more with their packaging)

Okay, here's what I'd like: (I'll go with either AMD or Intel)

Budget: $1,000 per computer:

Main use is gaming. Strictly gaming.
  • Quad Processor (2.5Ghz or higher)
  • Motherboard that can go up to 8GB of RAM or more
  • Starting RAM at 4GB
  • Video Card: Geforce 9800GTX+ 512MB (or better :D)
  • Power supply to power all of this? lol
And anything else I missed. This is my first time getting a gaming computer and I would want it to last me along time, you know? I'm new, so if you guys could help me out.

I need the best bang for my buck which would be $1,000
That $1,000 needs to be a fully assembled system. w/Operating system, Vista preferably because of DX10 (I heard of W7, but w/e..)
Not sure if a monitor can be included in that price. Wink

Anyhow, see what you can do for me please.
Thank you,
Elition


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You came to the right place!  I would imagine that the system design gurus will be on your post shortly with advice and suggestions.  In the mean time, look at the other posts in this section of the forum to see some of the past recommendations!
 
The service provided by Digital Storm and their fanatic customer base is why I ordered my dream machine from these guys.  I still have a few days before my beast arrives.


Edited by Onkel_Ken - 11 Feb 2009 at 11:13pm
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 11:17pm
Originally posted by Onkel_Ken

You came to the right place!  I would imagine that the system design gurus will be on your post shortly with advice and suggestions.  In the mean time, look at the other posts in this section of the forum to see some of the past recommendations!
 
The service provided by Digital Storm and their fanatic customer base is why I ordered my dream machine from these guys.  I still have a few days before my beast arrives.

Thank you. I am currently looking at the nVision pictures. Wish I would've went there. lol
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 11:42pm
$1000 for a quad core and 9800 GTX+ is not gonna happen.

if thats your budget, you should build it yourself.

I'm not gonna ask why 3 CPUs but I will tell you that for $3000 we can config one hell of a system.
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 11:45pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

$1000 for a quad core and 9800 GTX+ is not gonna happen.

if thats your budget, you should build it yourself.

I'm not gonna ask why 3 CPUs but I will tell you that for $3000 we can config one hell of a system.

$3,000 for 3 systems because I'm getting the other 2 for my sisters. And of course 1 is for me.

Could you still make a system for me? Duo perhaps? Wink
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This is as barebones as I could get it for you.  You might save a little more if you drop the GPU to the 9600.  Hate to say it, but you would be better off saving another $3,000 and check back then to get 3 computers at $2000 apiece.  It would be a much better system than what you can get for $1,000 apiece.  This system is not really future ready.  The x58 mobo is the one to use now.
 
No monitor, keyboard, mouse or speakers included either.  If you are going barebones, you could buy cheap versions of all those peripherals, but they are gonna show their cheapness.
 
Ticket Number: 246063 Price: $1182
 
Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm 750Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (6MB Cache)
Motherboard: NVIDIA 780i Core 2 Quad (Chipset: nForce 780i SLI)
System Memory: 2GB DDR2 667MHz Corsair
Power Supply: 550W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT 512MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty


Edited by Kryhavoc - 11 Feb 2009 at 11:49pm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 11:53pm
be right back

can't do any better then what Kryhavoc has posted, as he says its barebone, you can't apgrade this system.

I really think you are better off building yourself, or buy 2 and 2 of you share a pc.

Edited by DST4ME - 11 Feb 2009 at 11:57pm
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 11:56pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

be right back

hey, I may be able to swing $1,200 per system. But that has to include everything.
Monitor, speakers, keyboards and mice. I can probably.. probably get those items elsewhere, monitor too for maybe $130 at amazon or newegg. (can I post these names?)

Please see what you can do.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 11:58pm
yes you can talk freely they are great here abou that. please read my edits in my last post.
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 12:09am
Originally posted by DST4ME

yes you can talk freely they are great here abou that. please read my edits in my last post.

Alright. Thanks.. Wink Thought I was able to get something reasonable for a 1,000 bucks....
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right now that is a tight budget, but if you build it yourself you should be able to do it.
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 12:37am
Originally posted by DST4ME

right now that is a tight budget, but if you build it yourself you should be able to do it.

I really had no intention on building. Ugh..
That was my first thought, but I'm no building. I'm a newbie to this stuff.. WinkWinkWinkWink


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 12:45am
I see, you got a friend that knows maybe? otherwise I would wait 6 month or so then you maybe able to do so.

why don't you call the tomorrow and see if they can comeup with something

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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 12:59am
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I see, you got a friend that knows maybe? otherwise I would wait 6 month or so then you maybe able to do so.

why don't you call the tomorrow and see if they can comeup with something

Actually, to be honest with you, I tried my local computer place. They seem to know nothing. The dude actually lied to me about the type of CPU and stuff. ARG!
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 1:11am
well if they can't help you tomorrow then I guess try dell I think you can get a 630 xps for that price
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 1:24am
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well if they can't help you tomorrow then I guess try dell I think you can get a 630 xps for that price

do they have more options for the processors?
Do I HAVE to call them? Can I email them instead with my own specs and they can give me a price for items that are not listed?
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 1:34am
Can you take a look at this one?

AMD Quad
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=246100

Intel Duo
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=246106

Which would be my best bang for my buck?
I won't be getting 3 of them for a couple months.


Edited by Elition - 12 Feb 2009 at 1:43am
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building ur own computer is actully really easy
all stripped down its basically screwing a motherboard into a case, putting the cpu in the socket, puting the ram in the dim slots, and puting the gfx card in the pci slot then connecting all the wire(easy bcuz of mobo instructions)

literally the part thats hardest for me is putting the cpu cooler on, some of those things have the stupdest brackets
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they both look good, just that your DVD drive is just a reader, pick a reader/writer instead
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It's not much, but save yourself $10.00 and click "no thanks" for the interior lighting.
 
Hey, a penny saved...Ouch
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by <8) slunK parade

building ur own computer is actully really easy
all stripped down its basically screwing a motherboard into a case, putting the cpu in the socket, puting the ram in the dim slots, and puting the gfx card in the pci slot then connecting all the wire(easy bcuz of mobo instructions)

literally the part thats hardest for me is putting the cpu cooler on, some of those things have the stupdest brackets

I have thought of building 1 to see how it goes. But, I'll still be looking at DS.
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 2:44pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

they both look good, just that your DVD drive is just a reader, pick a reader/writer instead

Alright. But what do you suggest?

Intel Duo benefits me for having a Tri-SLI motherboard.

AMD Quad benefits me for, well.. having a Quad CPU and no SLI.
I won't be doing hard core gaming, but future proofing did cross my mind.
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Elition, both processors are good, but intel is better. My recommendation is save more money(another $3,000) and we can help you build a better system that can last you for a long time.

you could buy this system for $2,000

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=246486

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 3GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W PC Power & Cooling (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silencer Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (216 Cores) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Cooler Master GeminII S (Compatible With i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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@ Perlife, he is ona budget of $1000 a pc not 3000, he wants 3 pcs for 3000.

@Elition, I would go intel
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I will build a PC one of these days, and water cool it myself, the more I think about it the more I would like to do it, but for now DS is the way to go for meOuch
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  Quote Perlife Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Feb 2009 at 6:33pm
DST... i know he is on a budget... i was saying "if he saves another 3k then he can buy a better system"... but thank you for letting me know
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Hey, guys.

Thanks for all your help and assistance. I would very, very, very much like to purchase the computers from DS, but because of the pricing, I simply can't do it.

What I'll do is build my own computers. I do have a simple favor/question to ask about the bios settings for when I first boot up one of the computers after I've built it.
Do I just pop in the Vista OEM disc and see what happens or do I have to do some bio setting?

EDIT: or if someone knows of an online guide for bio / operating system setting for first time builders? Embarrassed

Thanks once again,
Elition LOL 


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once you have flashed the bios, you need to set it to boot from CD, you need to set your ram speed, with the x58 I believe the easiest way for you is to use the "extreme memory profile" or "xmp", this will let you set your ram settings by speed instead of adjusting each settings, for example if you have 1333MHz ram in xmp you choose 1333MHz and it will automatically set your voltage and qpi for that ram speed, I think you will have to enter your ram timings manually not sure.

after that you put in you vista CD boot from it and follow the prompts for fresh install.


here is a great install guide for vista




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Originally posted by DST4ME

once you have flashed the bios, you need to set it to boot from CD, you need to set your ram speed, with the x58 I believe the easiest way for you is to use the "extreme memory profile" or "xmp", this will let you set your ram settings by speed instead of adjusting each settings, for example if you have 1333MHz ram in xmp you choose 1333MHz and it will automatically set your voltage and qpi for that ram speed, I think you will have to enter your ram timings manually not sure.

after that you put in you vista CD boot from it and follow the prompts for fresh install.


here is a great install guide for vista



Thank you very, very much! lol I come here to buy a computer with no luck, and I still get help to building my own computer. LOL

I'll be back @ DS some day to get a better PC for myself. Angry
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This is one of many reasons why we love DS and we know they are the real McCoy, they are not threatened bye newegg prices or people building their own, so they let us talk about what ever we want.

good luck hope to see you with a DS system when times get better
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  Quote Elition Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Feb 2009 at 12:18am
Originally posted by DST4ME

This is one of many reasons why we love DS and we know they are the real McCoy, they are not threatened bye newegg prices or people building their own, so they let us talk about what ever we want.

good luck hope to see you with a DS system when times get better

You can bet your current Rig on that. Ouch
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LOL, true that

Oh, forgot to ask 1 last thing.. I read somewhere that you can ask DS to order the parts for you and they test everything (for a price of course), but is this possible?
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Yes, they can order parts if you request anything that is not listed in the configurator or if you want a specific brand of something (i.e. you want a specific blu-ray reader).  Call and talk to them about pricing for what you want to order.
 
Testing is part of the service they provide.
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Ya just like Kryhavoc, what ever parts you want in your PC, call them and request it, they will use it, test it and it will have their 3 year warranty also
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