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    Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 10:41am
I got my Hailstorm II finally July 3. I had to wait to open it as it was way too big and heavy for me to do alone. So finally opened it on July 4, to see what we thought was a awesome system. Before stripping off the plastic bag, we noticed wet spots on the inside of the plastic sheath ( begin bummer music), so I photoed it and continued unpacking. While I was a bit surprised to see a 5 inch dual bay resviour, I noticed one bay more than half empty. After taking the sides off and removing the foam packing, all appeared dry! Hard drive cages were out of their tracks but we were able to replace and hook up the cables for the HDD. On the back side a plastic houseing for some cables, I don't know what for, was tacked to the back of the thermal block of the cpu. Since it was only loosly adheared, I moved it off the cpu back plate to a spot off to the side. A final visual and we were ready to plug in and power on! All appears well, except fluid in the right bay is 15 mm from dry. I started copying data from the 27"iMac and marveled at the brightness of the Dell u3014. I called DS customer service to ask for some additional cooling fluid, and a nice young lady said some would be sent, it is easy to put in. After running for about 90 min, the res dropped an additional 3mm and steamy fog developed in the resivour. . Then I noticed the top had 5 fans, only four were working! Shut down, pull sides, fan cable goes nowhere . Now I am getting angry. We paid a lot for top boutique assembly. If I have to reverse engineer this thing there will one unhappy customer.

So on the plus side:
Top notch presentation. Super secure packing and accessories.
Machine (when working) kicks booty. Very fast and very very quiet. Wouldn't wake a baby.

Negatives:
There is a combination of compression fittings and worm drive clamps, that look frankly low class and ugly to boot. I am assuming that one of these clamps was over tightened and is weeping coolant. The unit is unusable due to low coolant level. (Unless you want me to fry two Titans)!

The second radiator is on the back of the unit. While this is your decision as the integrator, I would have put it on the CPU side. Looks a lot better. Whatever, at this point I would say grrrr, ok..

The build is not as clean and well thought out as I would have expected for the amount I paid. Looks amateurish. Almost as though it was "use whatever is available" as to planning the cooling and fan controls that are bar none.

I have photos to post, I will admit I am a terrible photographer. Will put them up in a couple of hours as I have chores that won't wait any longer. Sorry for the let down on the post, but I am trying to be patient when we hear back on Monday, I will let you know of the outcome.

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  Quote bally7 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 10:46am
Sorry to hear that Xero.

I had been following along your progress as you would post. Hopefully you can get everything sorted out on Monday.

Did your system have to travel far from California?

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  Quote Ariktu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 11:47am
I hope it all gets fixed up once DS opens on Monday. I feel like they will make it right for you.
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  Quote retirednavysnipe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 12:11pm
Subxero,

      Sorry to hear about your issue with your pc. DS will do anything in their power to fix the problems. I too spent alot on my custom Hailstorm, and when it was delivered to my surprise one of my GTX 680's was faulty. How that happened who knows, but DS fixed it right away without any issues.

Good Luck and looking for pics and a good review when DS repairs it.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 12:58pm
@Subxero,

It definitely is a bummer when you anxiously wait for your new system and it arrives not in tip-top condition. We always strive to take as many measures as possible to prevent such issues from occurring, but shipping shocks and vibrations can cause all sorts of problems.

Out of the very small amount of customers that receive a system in condition such as yours, I assure you that we're here to take care of our customers. Your system never left our facility in that condition. My guess is that a fitting became loose during shipping and caused water to leak. Such things are rare, but can occur with high-end liquid cooled configurations.

The best situation here is most likely for our team to have it come back to our facility so we can review what happened, replace all internal components that may have been affected, and re-test and ensure it does not occur for your again.

It will definitely be a high priority for us. Feel free to also send an email to: [email protected] with some photos and your order details.
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Also do note that the shipping is taken care of by DS the first 30 days.
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  Quote Nerek387 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 1:41pm
Subxero nooooooo!!!! I'm so sorry to hear about your system man! I just put up my review with pictures and set it all up yesterday/today. Check out what I reviewed to see if there is anything I can help you out with. I had alot of problems however fixed them I like tinkering!
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 2:46pm
Sorry to hear of the issues.    Shipping jolts can play havoc with high end systems like yours.    The fan not hooked up is probably a DS mis-step but no way it left with leaks and card cage dislodged.    DS will work hard to correct any issues you have.       Its not a good situation for you, and any of us would feel disappointed but give them a chance.       

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  Quote Subxero Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 5:51pm
I am looking forward to addressing the issues with DS higher ups. I will send them some pictures to show the problems. I have great faith that all will be taken care of with alacrity and tenacity. Thanks for all your support.
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  Quote HyDRO Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 8:41pm
Wow...sorry to hear about all your issues...hopefully DS can get everything sorted out. I am a little worried now after reading your post.
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 9:10pm
Originally posted by HyDRO

Wow...sorry to hear about all your issues...hopefully DS can get everything sorted out. I am a little worried now after reading your post.


I'm sure your system will arrive fine, like Alex said sometimes things do happen in shipping but not always. Your system could turn out fine, you never know. Try not to worry too much.

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  Quote Nerek387 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 10:11pm
Subxero, I had to mess with my system too it's not just you! Rad was on the outside? Did you get the Corsair 900d case? It has enough room for my 2 rads to fit internally. As far as the coolant, I would check to see what DS uses and pickup some locally or backup just in case. Very easy to refill and if you want pick up some dye and give your system a spice! =) FrozenCPU has everything! Don't be discouraged though my fingers are raw and sliced up messing with my system all night and day lol. POST PICS! Wanna see how it looks bud!
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2013 at 10:55pm
There definitely was no radiator on the outside as the Corsair 900D has plenty of internal mounts, perhaps a misunderstanding by Subxero.

Nevertheless, we're here to take care of our customers and the situation, rest assured we can take care of it all for you. Just get in touch with our team. I recommend sending an email to [email protected] to start things off with attached photos and your order details.
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  Quote Subxero Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2013 at 6:20am
Nerek387- Sorry for the confusion, the radiator was mounted on the opposite side from the window. Not out side the case. Here is what it looks like.. (Not sure how to post pictures, this is my first time, please be gentle).
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  Quote Subxero Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2013 at 6:25am
My helper is bushed. That box was very heavy!


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Packed to the max! Very well protected.


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Finally out of the box.


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Opened up so you could see the inside.

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  Quote Subxero Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2013 at 6:43am
UV light in the dual res blocks some of the light but this is the dual XSPC with pumps. the right side was low, and seemed to be getting lower. I can't see any leaks, but after 90 min. it was real close to the intake tube and generating steam in the tank.


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  Quote Subxero Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2013 at 6:49am
Here is another of the works. System is quiet and fast!


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  Quote Subxero Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2013 at 9:11am
tju76- I see at the very least a 360 & a 480, as opposed to a 240 and 480.  They have been very busy with tech support calls and I am queued for Monday sometime. I have been waiting since April for the case, seems like it was a bit rushed. It happens.
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@Subxero

Can you please post a pic of the reservior?

Also what type of desk is that? I am in the market for a new computer desk...will that desk support the weight of the tower on top?
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Tju that was my system. 480 and 420 rad top and side of case I had stage 5 2x gpu cooling and cpu no chipset. Sub that's an unusual setup and place where they put the radiator in the bottom :-(
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@Subxero,

I sent a notice to team leads in various departments of your order to ensure it never occurs again for future customers. We'll make things right and take care of you. I do see that you emailed [email protected] as well.
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As someone who just about ready to order my own system, it truly makes me sad to see this happen to fellow gamer/owner. As seeing the good reviews from other owner's that had issues when getting their new machine, I'm sure you are in good hands.
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HyDRO- The reservoir picture has been posted. It is that big blue monstrosity. It is a XSPC Acrylic Twin DDC Dual bay. The pumps are Swifttec MCP35x. The 4 pin connectors were tied off, unhooked allowing the pump to run at it's max speed of 4500 rpm. The UV light in the pump gives it that blue cast. You can see the separate bays as the right is less than half full. The right reservoir started to fill with vapor so I shut the system down. I have been trying to keep a happy outlook and post only pics that are complimentary to DS. I am hoping for a satisfactory outcome next week. Maybe it's just my luck. Ordered in April and still can't use it.



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Quiet like the Aventum II right Tju76 Sorry had to if were going to talk the talk then walk the walk bud.
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lol your a tool is all you are tju76. You said prove it was quiet so i did. Then the little boy you are you could not even man up and say "yeah thats quiet" no you just ignored the entire subject. Stay in school you have a lot to learn. It was not a flame it was showing how cowardly some can be. You do not want to pick a war with me i will let you know that right now.

If your not happy with your purchase then don't post anything on there forum because all you seem to do if you look at your posts is flame anything DS does.


I'm done with this conversation and will not reply to get a rise out of such a Tool as yourself. I don't care how long you been here you hurt the image of this company with your gibberish slander...

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lol your a tool is all you are tju76. You said prove it was quiet so i did. Then the little boy you are you could not even man up and say "yeah thats quiet" no you just ignored the entire subject. Stay in school you have a lot to learn. It was not a flame it was showing how cowardly some can be. You do not want to pick a war with me i will let you know that right now.If your not happy with your purchase then don't post anything on there forum because all you seem to do if you look at your posts is flame anything DS does. I'm done with this conversation and will not reply to get a rise out of such a Tool as yourself. I don't care how long you been here you hurt the image of this company with your gibberish slander...Love Evil   Evil 



To be honest with you i agree with everything you said. Everywhere you look he is saying something negative.
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You all are right, we decided to remove the user from the community. It's unfortunate, but, it's definitely not worthwhile for the rest of community.
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HyDRO- The reservoir picture has been posted. It is that big blue monstrosity. It is a XSPC Acrylic Twin DDC Dual bay. The pumps are Swifttec MCP35x. The 4 pin connectors were tied off, unhooked allowing the pump to run at it's max speed of 4500 rpm. The UV light in the pump gives it that blue cast. You can see the separate bays as the right is less than half full. The right reservoir started to fill with vapor so I shut the system down. I have been trying to keep a happy outlook and post only pics that are complimentary to DS. I am hoping for a satisfactory outcome next week. Maybe it's just my luck. Ordered in April and still can't use it.<div style=": ; top: -1999px; left: -1988px;" id="stcpDiv">


When your system shipped, the reservoirs were full. I can email you photos from QA if you would like. Your system leaked during shipping form some shipping shocks and vibrations. We'll take care of you and make things right rest assured. I've already sent a notice to our team for you.
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Subxero will be good! And I'm glad to see Tju76 was removed, nothing but negative comments and bashing others systems.
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