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    Posted: 01 Nov 2023 at 5:26am
Coming back to DS since my last purchase about 14 years ago still running Win. 7, but ended up upgrading the GPU 3 times. I think it might be time to upgrade

Primary use is for gaming. Flight sims (New MSFS, IL2, DCS), Uboat, Strategy games, and city/simulation games. I would like to get into VR for the flight sims.

Just purchased Asus ROG Strix XG27AQM for monitor – 1440P will run it around 240hz

Budget: $3-4K

Here are some questions.
1.     Not sure if I got the best storage. Or consider 4TB?
2.     Is Windows 11 Pro better for gaming or not?
3.     Any other suggestions to make sure this PC will last for another 10 years

Digital Storm Velox (Config # 4786924)
$3,306.00

Chassis
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox

Core Components
Processor: Intel Core i7-13700KF
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z790-P D5 (Wi-Fi)
System Memory: 32GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series

Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 990 PRO)

Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12GB (VR Ready)

Digital Storm Engineering
Stage 2: Noctua NH-D15
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans

Turbo Boost Technology
CPU Boost: Turbo Boost Technology
Boost OS: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system


Edited by Bishop - 02 Nov 2023 at 4:58am
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Originally posted by Bishop

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Here are some questions.
1.     Not sure if I got the best storage. Or consider 4TB?
2.     Is Windows 11 Pro better for gaming or not?
3.     Any other suggestions to make sure this PC will last for another 10 years
...


First off, welcome back!  Big%20Smile

While I am not a configuration expert, I am happy to share my limited experience with you. Similar to you, I purchased a Slade some ten years ago and received excellent service from it with Windows 7 Pro, Windows 8 Pro, and Window 10 Pro. I upgraded GPUs once.

1.  Depending upon your upgrade plans, your storage looks pretty good. Games keep getting larger so no matter how much auxiliary storage that you start with, you will probably need to add more in the future.

2. I am a fan of Windows "n" Pro for reasons other than gaming. I find myself 'de-bloating' Windows and eliminating 'features' that I do not want or need and that take up resources better utilized for things that I want. I find the Pro version easier to work with to obtain my desired goals.

3. To ensure that your machine lasts for at least ten years, look closely at your motherboard. Most of the PC components can be replaced without needing to obtain a new copy of the OS. The other things, beside PC hardware, are adequate grounding and UPS systems to protect your equipment.

Dust is another enemy to PC performance and life, but I imagine that you already know that.

Best wishes and happy adventures!


Edited by Theokritos - 01 Nov 2023 at 11:55am
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I'm not an expert on your choice of motherboard and CPU, but everything else looks pretty good to me.

What resolution monitor do you plan on using? That may help us give you advice about the GPU.

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Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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Thanks. The monitor is in my post above but the resolution is 2560x1440p and can go as high as 270Hz but will run it either at 240hz or 144hz.

Theokritos - Thank you for the suggestions. I am good at keeping my PC clean and dust free as much as possible. Curious, what do you mean when you say "take a close at your motherboard"? Do I need to select a different one or just keep it clean?

Edited by Bishop - 02 Nov 2023 at 5:06am
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Regarding the motherboard... While there are valid features (e.g., more expensive models typically have more I/O), many of the advertised features are simply luxury. A few relevant videos:

This trend needs to stop with motherboards | JayzTwoCents (YouTube)

Overpriced and Disappointing! The $1300 AORUS Z790 Xtreme X | derBauer (YouTube)

Unhinged Rant About Motherboards | Gamers Nexus (YouTube)
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Welcome back! Awesome
I am still running my Aventum II on W7U but its end is very near. New hardware will not run on it and Steam will stop running on W7 in 59 days. Anyway, I digressed. Motherboards come in all colors and sizes but the innards are what you want to have the money spent on.  Budget allowed, I go for the best offered. Asus is a top maker.

On the OS, I also go for the Pro option (no more Ultimate). It allows for a bit more user (you) control. While on the subject, no need to tweak it to de-clutter it.

You got plenty of storage, too bad there is no 1TB 990 Pro option but I don't think you will be able to tell.

BTW, those comments are based on my opinion only. I am not one of the configurator gurs.

Enjoy.
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Ok. Been doing some research and it looks like that the i5 chip might be enough for MSFS, but they might leverage multiple threads in the new MSFS 2024. The system specs are not out yet.

I am concerned with the additional heat going with the i7 chip during the summer months.

So, what do you think of this setup?

- Should go with 1000watt power or is 850W enough as far as future proofing somewhat?

Digital Storm Velox (Config # 4788915)

$3,034.00

Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox

Core Components
Processor: Intel Core i5-14600KF

Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z790-P D5

System Memory: 32GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB

Power Supply: 850W Corsair RMx Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)

Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)

Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 990 PRO) (NVM Express)

Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12GB (VR Ready)

Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black (Extreme Performance)

CPU Boost: Turbo Boost Technology
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MSFS benefits from extra CPU cache, it appears:



Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs i9-13900K // Test in 9 Games | Benchmarks for Gamers (YouTube)

So, another configuration to consider(?):

Digital Storm Velox (Config # 4789159)

Price: $3,129.00

Core Components
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (8-Core) 5.0 GHz Turbo (3D V-Cache)

Motherboard: ASUS Prime X670-P (Wi-Fi) (AMD X670) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (DDR5)

System Memory: 32GB DDR5 5200MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)

Storage / Connectivity
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 990 PRO) (NVM Express)

Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 990 PRO) (NVM Express)

Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Graphics / Multimedia
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12GB (VR Ready)

Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio

Digital Storm Engineering
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black (Extreme Performance)


RTX 4070 Ti 12GB Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 | LakyFX (YouTube)

Originally posted by Bishop

Should go with 1000watt power or is 850W enough as far as future proofing somewhat?

It's difficult to predict how (far) components will be pushed in a decade or so -- many are surprised where we're at now with CPU and GPU power consumption. Nevertheless, in in the foreseeable future, 850W should be okay if you don't splurge on the flagship models.

PSU calculation for AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D + NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti | eXtreme Outer Vision
• Ryzen 5600X, ROG Strix B550-I, RX 6900 XT, 32GB Vengeance, 960GB MP510
• be quiet 500DX, i7 11700K, ROG Strix Z590-E, RTX 4080 ProArt + RTX 4070 Ti ProArt, 64GB HyperX Fury, 2TB SN850
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Thank you for the chart and recommendation. I have not seen this one yet. I would like to stay with Intel.

It is interesting that the i5-13600k is performing better than the i7-3700k. Maybe I am over thinking it and should just go with the i5 and be done with it.
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I'd get the 14600KF and go modern. I see you did that in your config, but then posted about the 13600
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Thank you all. Order placed. Final config # 4791172.

Will be back in 10 years for a new pc. Big%20Smile
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Excellent! Awesome
That is a super system. I also noticed that the 1TB 990 Pro is now offered. You can save some $$ by changing your 2TB 990 Pro to the 1 TB as primary drive for the OS.
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14 years!!!!!!


Right on, cool, awesome!
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